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Besides the stabilizers on the wing engines I don't see any more vertical stabilizers (granted I did forget about the ones on the wing engines, but that aside). We are thinking the same thing I hope, by vertical stabilizers I am referring to fins that (commonly) run perpendicular to the main wings (often with Valkyries and newer jets today the vertical stabilizers are more slanted).

Like I said a number of pages back, the WTF-1 is the final cylon! *dramatic chord*

I posted all that SDF-1 art stuff in the fanart section as well, so it is represented in the correct place as well as here.

This sort of came about during the WTF-1 discussion and sent me looking for good pics of the SDF-1 Macross while we were debating things about it and whether it is what we see in ep.12 of Frontier. Doing some image searches I happened upon a nice CG rendering of an ARMD. The site it was attached to was apparently that of an artist who does all types of stuff and included was renderings of the ARMD and SDF-1 in both cruiser and attacker mode, all these pictures are liked below. The artist, who appears to call himself Wolfmage is very talented it seems. However this is where it gets interesting. I browsed through his site to see if he had more stuff. He does a lot of things but nothing else from Macross, however when I stumbled into his CG animations page and found he had an animation of the SDF-1 transformation from cruiser to attacker and it is amazing! The link to that below is a link directly to the download, which comes in a .avi file that will play easily on anything if you have divX or some such proper codecs (shouldn't be a problem for anyone here). ARMD over Earth ARMD underside Attacker mode backside Attacker mode with pretty background. Would make a great wallpaper if it was bigger. Cruiser mode with nice backdrop. Again would be nice to have a bigger one. This one is the download link to the animation, Love it and enjoy: TRANSFORMATION!! I couldn't resist. Thanks to Wolfmage whoever you are for making such good looking renders.

I did think of that I just thought it was relevant here since we were also talking about the transformation bit as well. I know that is where it would go normally.

The VF-1 didn't have missiles at all except for being stored on the wings and the VF-11 never had missiles without a super or armor pack. The VF-25 is a lot slimmer than the VF-19 and 22 models and I had belief that there may be small missiles hiding somewhere but I can't see where now that line art fails to show a good place to put them.

Ok this is slightly off topic but it is related to the SDF-1 so I'll put it here, mods can tell me off if they think this shouldn't be here but I think it is fine. Since people seemed to fine that blueprint picture I found interesting, I went it search for more interesting pictures (just for my gallery really) and I came across some really cool stuff. Doing more image searches I happened upon a nice CG rendering of an ARMD. The site it was attached to was apparently that of an artist who does all types of stuff and included was renderings of the ARMD and SDF-1 in both cruiser and attacker mode, all these pictures are liked below. The artist, who appears to call himself Wolfmage is very talented it seems. However this is where it gets interesting. I browsed through his site to see if he had more stuff. He does a lot of things but nothing else from Macross, however when I stumbled into his CG animations page and found he had an animation of the SDF-1 transformation from cruiser to attacker and it is amazing! The link to that below is a link directly to the download, which comes in a .avi file that will play easily on anything if you have divX or some such proper codecs (shouldn't be a problem for anyone here). ARMD over Earth ARMD underside Attacker mode backside Attacker mode with pretty background. Would make a great wallpaper if it was bigger. Cruiser mode with nice backdrop. Again would be nice to have a bigger one. This one is the download link to the animation, Love it and enjoy: TRANSFORMATION!! I couldn't resist. Thanks to Wolfmage whoever you are for making such good looking renders.

I don't know really, like I said I just found it. I get the impression that the person who made it was thinking of it as 'the ship from Robotech' though, however that shouldn't change its design at all.

It has tailfins, what it doesn't have is vertical stabilizers. I was always specific to saw vertical stabilizers.

As said this is most likely anime magic. Perhaps he had them attached to his wing but they were hidden by the fast packs and after jettisoned they were there but them he fired them so we never really get to see the missiles. However I think it is more likely they wanted him to fire missiles but didn't bother animating missiles on the plane.

Doesn't bother me, it's not my picture. I just found it on Google Image search. Someone last page posted a link to where it comes from but I was just looking up pics of the Macross when I found it. Thought it looked good so I posted it. Yes both are missing the "arms."

Alto didn't have a copilot in round 1, he was alone... and certainly didn't eject anyone. Are you making predictions on the dogfight in ep.13 because your present and past tense is making it hard to tell.

I'd prefer to fly a VF-25, I like it more.

I've been thinking about getting this thing recently although I can't afford it now and I'm saving for a VF-25 later but my then hopefully I'll have more money anyway. I haven't had time to read this entire thread so I'm just curious does everything think this thing is worth the price? Is it even easy to get anymore I hear not a lot of places sell it anymore? I'd really like to own the Macross in some form and this thing looks really nice despite being small so I want to know if it is really worth it. Also if it is still available anywhere can people point me to a good site that sells it? I can't afford it now but if I do end up getting it I should know where to do so.

Ouch.

You have a point there, but I wasn't exactly giving up, I just don't have any more rational at the moment.

Blueprint of cruiser mode it seems It's a fan created image but I though I'd post it because it looks really nice. No attacker mode pics though.

Then it is obvious! I have figured it out! Plot device.

I can easily imagine that happening. Global is gullible.

Which we also saw in action during ep.7. It was doing crazy quick turns but there was a Vajra hedgehog ship firing at everything that moved and it avoided everything unlike Alto who lost a wing before getting into the ship (where he proceeded to lose everything else).

Hydrogen can be liquid or gas but it heats to plasma faster as gas. Don't forget those cars don't work the same way as nuclear engines. It isn't like we are heating hydrogen to plasma to power those cars. Hydrogen fuel cell cars are powered by a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen, which produces water and electricity which the latter is use to power an electric traction motor. Although it is possible to use hydrogen in a car like gasoline, that is to burn it. However the common idea for hydrogen cars is to go with the fuel cell concept because it is clean and the aforementioned water is your only exhaust, plus your fuel efficiency (at least in Honda's new FCX Clarity) is equivalent to a gas powered car getting 78 mpg which is very high and unusual for a gas car. Good stuff.

That was brought up in the show if you watch the first episode where it transforms. Global said they didn't have any spare conduit to connect the two pieces to transfer power to the gun. The only option the engineer had for him was to move the blocks together so the could be connected, and the only way to do this was to reorganize the block structure of the ship. I also always got that vibe that the fact it looked like a humanoid was mere coincidence and they didn't intend that. However I can see how that sounds fishy.

Yeah that is probably a good point, pressurized gives you more propellant to burn (or in this case heat).

Though I would imagine the classic trackball system has been replace with a touchscreen allow them to point and click where to put the barrier now.

I doubt it is any heavier than the VF-25. However I have wondered if it loses life because of the big engines in the middle of the wings. In the 27's case it is making up for lack of vertical stabilizers with the 3D thrust vectoring. I think the 27 does have canards (4 of them it seems) though so that shouldn't be a problem. However we do have to remember the VF-27 seems more designed for anti-ship and search and destroy missions rather than air/space superiority like the VF-25 so it may not fare as well as it seems (unless Brera and his mental interface can compensate).