Master Dex

I must have missed the macross design, but that was funny regardless.

I just looked at the episode, the GG subs just say Cosmo Nature, November 2047 edition. Klan's computer screen didn't give any more on the date either unless it was mentioned in Japanese text, though I doubt it.

That is what he says in the subs I watched. I like it better than the one you saw truthfully. Thanks for the fix Vostok 7, I just copied and pasted that from another page with the quotes, I knew the line but not word for word.

"Wonderful. Bust, 83 cm. Will expand when unwrapped." - Max Jenius, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross ep.24.

Though a lot refer to the VF-25 as being feminine due to it's skinny-ness, despite it's cod piece and all the talk about it. It is tradition to refer to vehicles and ships as she, but I know what you are saying, battroid features aside some seem very manly.

My roommate makes me wonder if anything in Macross has cannon boobs... we have laser boobs which is close but I don't know if that qualifies for a cannon. Apparently Gundam has done cannon boobs before. This is going to be one of those infamous topics where the conversation shifted from something specific to a talk that in the end is another boob-related discussion. Macross World really is a charmed place.

Well.. you might be able to say the SDF-1 has rocket boobs. The main vertical thrusters for cruiser mode are on the chest in attacker mode. Hey I think it is better than hanger bay boobs as the original concept was, as well as the Breast Fighters, lol.

Heheheh... that's pretty good. I never thought of it looking like they were at a shooting range before.

Yeah, it is apparent that some of the designers in Shinsei (I know they do the VF-11 and various derivatives, I don't know if Shinsei did the VF-14 though) loved putting random objects for valkyrie boobs, I would seriously bet they were inside jokes from the engineering teams that designed them (in real life it was probably an inside joke from our dear friend with the floating head). Funnily enough my friend, who isn't really a fan of Macross but he knows enough about it thanks to me talking of it nonstop, likes to joke that my VF-25S model has a uni-boob (referring to the pointed chest). He has also made jokes about the VF-1's nosecone position in battroid mode, but we all know those jokes have probably been made before.

Ah... that is so true, the captain can want it to look however he wants, but it is the project lead that gets it his way in the end. Of course the middle man engineer gets to have fun finding ways to make the system better while making sure it ends up with its requisite beefy hands. The chest lasers... probably an inside joke from the engineering team.

Very nice, I've heard the glass one before, I have a list of a bunch of engineering an science jokes. Also I can pretty much assure that you would face palm if I told you the reference, but it is a funny one. Yeah, as for the quote, it really did come to me just as I was waking up once (I don't remember much of my actual dreams so that counts as coming to me in a dream there) and I didn't want to let that go because it sounded perfect. I am an aerospace engineering student by the way (focusing on astronautical engineering, spacecraft that is). Can you guess what got me interested in Macross?

I'm not sure if you got the reference or not, nonetheless I think I'll wait for the opportune moment.

"That'll do pig, that'll do."

Actually I was taking the PD from another dimension as meaning another realm or such, not the standard definition of dimension that you listed (that being the whole 1D, 2D, etc. one). Other than that I don't know much more than you, I can't tell what anyone is trying to say anymore.. just offering my insight and two cents. Perhaps I should just offer up $1.05 and buy my freedom from the whole confusion, heheh .

This is an intriguing thought, maybe there is a future for the Lucifer in fleets like Macross 5 that are mostly Zentradi.

I've tried a couple poses with the 2 valkyries that I have but I don't have much to brag about. However I will post a few pictures anyway of my 1/48 VF-1J Max, and my 1/72 VF-25S Ozma Valks, some which can be humorous with the right captions. Yes the backdrops on these images are kind of sucky, I have been going through different ones, found one that works but these pics came before that. I just really like this one, picturesque... in a geeky sort of way, but that is why we are here after all. If anyone is curious the VF-1J is new, I just got it. I had the VF-25 since December. Also for the 25 it is just stickers and panel lining only, I'm not a huge modeler, just enough to make it look decent. In this one the VF-25S realizes how wrong his height is compared to his new friend: VF-25S: "It is good to have to on the team 1, I'll call you J actually. Now that Masterpiece Starscream this guy owns can't brag about how good he looks compared to you. Us Valks have to stick together, but I should be in charge since I'm newer and bigger.... wait... your bigger.... that can't be right.." VF-1J: "It is called 1/48 scale my friend... didn't they tell you?" 25S: "No... guess I'm back to being the little model yet again." 1J: "Don't feel bad, at least your not the 1/60 version, have you seen those things?" 25S: "Good point." And this one I just did because it seemed funny at the time: VF25S: "So then she says I transform too fast.. can you believe that?" VF-1J: "That's rough man..." 25S: "Does that Red Valk you hang around ever say such mean things like that?" 1J: "Heheh... um.. lets not get into that." Anyway that is all I have on this, maybe I'll try something different later. I am thinking about getting some of those flexi-display stands for the 1J though, they look very good.

Different dimensions is a term thrown around in science fiction an awful lot that is so often used incorrectly... in this case though it isn't that bad especially since they don't really elaborate on what they mean by 'came from a different dimension' at all. In most cased in SF if it is said that something came from an alternate dimension they mean like another realm, plain of existence, or even possibly an alternate universe. Since the scientific definition of dimension means something different than these it makes no sense to use the word... However dimension is just such a good word for that and it sounds right so it is used often to mean other things, so it really is not a bad thing, just gets confused especially when you know what it really means to say alternate dimension. In the case of Macross I'd say the Protodeviln are from an alternate realm or plain of existence as the term is used to describe. As for the Vajra, I don't remember them saying they were from a different dimension, so I assume they just lived in this galaxy too and we never noticed them before... they could be extragalactic though, I don't remember hearing that but their fold capability is pretty good, they could cross those distances well enough I bet. In the case of calling Vajra Super Dimensional Life Forms, that just means they are capable of fold travel I bet since folds utilize extra dimensions (in the correct sense of the word... well as correct as you can get with FTL) to travel at superluminal speeds. Much like how the Macross could travel by fold, therefor it is a Super Dimensional Fortress.

It is a good possibility. I'd even believe that Megaroad 13 just wanted the 14 to have bigger hands, but that is just me (lol ). I can easily believe that any colony can modify and redesign valkyries to their liking or for specific purposes.

I don't know much about Farscape, but wormholes in general were first theorized by Einstein and most scientists today believe they can be naturally occurring, but it is not likely one could safely traverse one and live. Wormholes are not unlike the Type A FTL mentioned before, they are just naturally forming, and usually very random in most science fiction (it is theorized they'd be pretty random and unstable). Some theories put a connection between black holes and wormholes but generally they are treated as two very different things. Wormholes are held open by negative energy (also known as exotic energy) which is the direct opposite of positive energy. Positive energy includes pretty much any type of energy we know to exist or use (this is different from the concept of antimatter, that is just reversed charges) negative energy has yet to be officially documented.

I was more or less stating the obvious, that way there is no question.

Even in the US, a presidential aid doesn't succeed a president, the vice president does. It would be an interesting government structure to have an aid be a president back up.

Very true, which is why I usually stick to a certain caste of EU Star Wars books, because there are several interesting ones. The Thrawn Trilogy is really good for story, and Republic Commando is a must (if not just because it focuses of the troops more than the Jedi, which the movies do enough of themselves). However lets not get off topic from this Macross themed thread by talking about Star Wars and other series FTL too much. Although the original purpose of this thread is kind of moot since we all know Megaroad-01 is gone.... and not coming back.

I really don't care though. It is just an opinion of mine. I don't really like the hyperdrive from Star Wars, but it serves the purpose of the plot very well. At the end of the day every FTL from any science fiction must always be taken with a grain of salt, you can't really weigh any specific one more than another. Though I am curious how you can rate a proper FTL when no such thing exists currently.... In any case I actually agree that the Macross space fold makes the most sense out of a lot of science fiction type FTLs... it is in part (not completely) what I based one of my own made up FTLs for a novel I am writing. Lets not fight now my fellow mecha loving friend .

I wasn't including all the other FTLs of Star Trek (like transwarp conduits, quantum slipstream, and all those other fun things Voyager came up with), most of which make less sense than warp drive itself. Remember now, warp drive was given an actual FTL theory by Miguel Alcubierre, aka the Alcubierre drive. Nonetheless I've told you before I treat the science in Star Trek as a science more advanced and above what we currently understand in modern physics. Science and Physics is always changing, 100 years ago many of the things we take for granted today were impossible then. Just because it sounds like totally made up stuff now (which is what most of the stuff in Star Trek is, I know) doesn't mean it will always be that way. We may find a new understanding some day that makes the concept of FTL seem simple, but now the way we understand things, FTL is something of an impossibility that many physicists believe could take 1000 years or more to fully find a way to achieve. Also in a bit of off-topicness I like to suggest a good read called Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku. He is one of my favorite scientists and this book was just absolutely fascinating. He basically takes a lot of the concepts, most of which appear in science fiction, that are pretty much deemed impossible by today's standards and then works through how they supposedly work. Then he categorizes each 'impossibility' as a Class 1, 2, or 3 impossibility. Class 1 being something that he believes could be possible within 100 to 1000 years from now, Class II being something possible perhaps 1000 or more years from now, and Class III being something that wouldn't be possible until millions of years from now or are just not possible ever. For reference FTL is listed by him as a Class II impossibility, which is where I got my number in the above paragraph.

Warp drive from Star Trek is not instantaneous. Cancels out time dilation by having the ship not actually moving (space around the ship in moving with the ship 'going for the ride'). As for that hyperdrive thing you mentioned, the character in question had a malfunction in his ships hyperdrive that caused whatever it is that keeps time dilation as a result of special relativity from happening to stop working, as such much time passed during his short journey due to special relativity as if you traveled close to the speed of light physically. I don't read much into the Star Wars hyperdrive however as it, IMO, is the most plot deviced FTL in the many science fiction things I watch (I do really like Star Wars though, just saying).