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The Sivil reaction thing has been consistently joked about cause it looks suspiciously similar to that. Coupled with the fact that everyone but the PD react so positively to Fire Bomber music leads some to guess that get reaction and the fact she keeps coming back for more is a kind of "hurts so good" thing lol.

Almost, lol. Though Sivil's music-induced orgasms tends to distract from it.

The Macross The Tribute album, known for having various Macross artists swap song roles, has Ishtar singing a surprisingly good rendition of Voices though. (It also has a Minmay version of Angel Voice and Fukuyama/Basara doing the SDFM theme including guitar!)

They might even pull in idols from games if they feel up to it, such as Mina Forte.. though there is only one song associated with her.

Bah... I did a whole post and didn't see I missed reading an entire page of people already answering this.. disregard.

Yep, You gotta have blue hair.

So for those wondering, I got to rank 16, but before that I visited memory lane quickly to see if it showed at all when Basara and Mylene would appear. Like normal it only showed the square for the next thing to unlock which at the time was a Sheryl song (turned out to be 'What bout by star'). Then without prompting a picture of Basara pops up shouting something and the song square is literally pushed aside with Basara's unlock square taking it's place. Basara literally cut in line so he'd unlock next, lol. I did then unlock him at 16, and then it moved back to the Sheryl song... which then caused Mylene to jump in and cut in line the same way! I'm just laughing now. Weirdly, a few song plays later, and Mylene unlocks for me even though I didn't rank up again (I also even got the song that had been pushed back twice, lol). So I have them both now. Seems they programmed the game with this update to ensure people got Basara and Mylene as soon as they could.

They had that for 5 episodes at most.. then they dropped the IMO very interesting concept of the Immelmann Dance and it's potential combat application so Hayate could suddenly become a regular pilot.

Mylene's singing voice was never Tomo Sakurai (despite that she can sing rather well), but Chei Kajiura who has continued to sing those songs to today.

I don't know for sure but Mari Ijima is still around (and doing great) so she likely would do it. The songs are using the original versions probably.

Fair point. However people who act irrationally often have irrational reasons in their heads. I'd put forth that Kaifun wasn't a supporter of the Anti-UN as such and likely hated them just as much, but he may still lay blame on the UNG and their military for putting in motion the politics that frenzied the Anti-UN members into committing those horrible acts. As such he wouldn't be apologizing for the Anti-UN, but he would be saying it was ultimately the UNG's fault. It's an insanely stupid way to rationalize something, but that's just the thing.. some people really do come up with crazy justifications to allow them to hate someone when they really just have no real reason to do so. Since it seems that is what Kaifun is doing, hating on the military for no clear reason... he probably in his half-baked mind has a similarly messed up rationale.

My guess is Kaifun blames the military for the Unification Wars and all the death and destruction of caused (nevermind that the UN had a reason for it (dangerous aliens could be coming) which they were entirely correct about, though that was probably mostly classified outside of the existence of the Macross). Perhaps Kaifun deep down wanted the Anti UN to win cause they acted the part of freedom fighters against an oppressive regime and is just mad they lost.

Idols have indeed been odd ranks and songs on even. I often do a few songs a day, especially in events but I've skipped some days (like when I was running from a hurricane and all lol). I'm in no hurry really.

I think the SA had brainwashed Zentradi and other species from the former Protoculture empire too but it isn't that clear. With the mass cloning it is likely no original Protoculture are left due to age/battle though, just warrior copies. Much like the Zentradi are following old orders for millennia, so is the SA remnants. Plus there was war going on even before the Protodeviln happened, they just hijacked the latest weapon (Evil series) on one side and basically took over what became the Supervision Army.

I mean... really, is that honestly that surprising? I almost half expect the entire phone to explode with him shouting "BOMBAA!!" Ever notice that in the SNS segments his name is the only one in all caps even before he is a playable singer? It suits him, lol. I'm only rank 15 (I only play once a day at most, and I can't manage anything tougher than normal for most songs, so I level at a slow pace) and just got Mikumo so I expect I'll have a bit before I get Basara and Mylene. I suspect they are next for me cause... I can't think of any other main singing characters I'm missing now. Got all of Walküre, Sheryl, Ranka, and Minmay. Unless there are some non-series singers that I haven't seen in screen caps yet I imagine they have to be next.

Agreed if you don't count Freyja since she got the most attention. Kaname was set up to be a great side character who was all but forgotten though after her angst moment basically which is a massive shame. Hayate wasn't really all that bad, but he wasn't all that good either. That describes a lot of them really.

Just pretend it is real world wear and tear from flight and combat, lol. Real jets don't often look that pristine anyway (until the government spends way too much money repainting them only for them to wear again at the first flight).

Yeah... us old folk... heh heh... *is 28 years old*

Fair enough but I'm economically disinclined toward it at the present time in any case, lol.

I get orbs too slowly to build up to 500 for these event packs. I know you can buy orbs but that's stupid and the game isn't worth that.

It's good to have dreams, lol.

This is probably one of the most fair rebuttals to Macross 7 I've seen as you have managed to get to the meat of your three major issues (which are actually quite valid) without getting too emotional like many do when complaining the show is too silly or what not. To me Macross 7 introduced a good chunk of the existing Macross lore and without it Frontier would have a lot less to go on very likely. There is a clear progression going on between them all, and having returning characters like Max and Milia help that a lot I think. I pretty much agree with your three points but I feel like digging into them a bit to flesh out why they happened at all perhaps. Firstly, the elephant in the room known as Basara. Yeah, he's kind of an a-hole. Thing is, every time I rewatch this show, I am more and more convinced it only works because he's an a-hole. I think he was deliberately written that way, and if he was a more likeable character most of the plot wouldn't function quite the way it did. Basara can't be denied singing prowess or piloting skill (Gamlin, and even Max gave him some kudos there) but his main job in the narrative is to build up everyone else I think. Gamlin becomes a better pilot trying to keep up with Basara, and even softens his stance on music relative to combat (a lot of this was due to his interest in Mylene of course too). Mylene grows as a singer due to Basara pushing her, often pissing her off in the process. The UN Forces really hate him partly cause he bruises their egos but also he has no respect for them and yet still they relent his method ultimately has some purpose so they create the Jamming Birds (never mind the group was never successful until the very end but they had very little time to skill up). Plus it is clear Basara does care about people... but he goes about it in a rather rude manner, and still focuses on his interests mostly. He was essential to the story... because he's the giant prick they needed, just not the one they deserved, lol. Yeah he probably would have made a better secondary protagonist, but in my opinion Mylene was just as much a lead as he was in the show anyway. The pacing..... actually there is not much to be said here, it is one of Macross 7's biggest sins. A lot of it is the length of the show of course, which was probably a studio choice rather than a writing choice. The show redone in a 2 cour format likely would be a lot easier to digest, or even in some revision movies like Frontier had. We could even put all the amazing mecha designs into fancy new CGI too perhaps. This is likely never gonna happen so I can dream, lol. Song Energy finally... is kind of an issue for sure. I am of two minds here. I for one liked it better when the music was simply as aspect of the greater culture of humanity affecting our alien adversaries and allowing them to slowly empathize with us, which was why the Protoculture stringently forbade it among their warrior races. It meant music wasn't a weapon so much as a gateway drug of sorts to the emotional understanding between species. Macross 7 seemed to want to compound on this initially by Basara singing in order to open the eyes of the enemy and make them understand the fighting was pointless. This was ok to me. Later we got song energy projectors and sound boosters intended to better deliver the direct energy of song to the enemy as almost a weapon and.... somehow Basara was ok with that? Well really he seemed to have some issues but being the ass he is he was ok with forcing his song down the enemies throats with sci-fi tech to force them to listen and at least acknowledged in the movie and later episodes that the Protodeviln were extremely dangerous and his singing together with the song energy amplifiers could do something. However it is clear the original point of the music aspect of cultural contamination was already being lost in the details. Frontier expanded this by basically confirming song energy was basically music reverberating through fold space and reacting to everyone on a weird hyper dimensional level and was more potent with the application of fold quartz which already was highly sought after for it's many super properties. I am lighter on Frontier because I don't mind them explaining the 'science' of what in Macross 7 was only vaguely defined at best (Chiba never explicitly explains what exactly song energy is after all, it's just kinda there). Frontier gives it more grounding which I was ok with, but at the same time facilitates the further separation from the original idea in SDFM that it wasn't just music but culture entirely. Now culture and music might as well be the same thing. Delta just took this to the logical conclusion from there (logical in that we'd already fallen off the wagon so why not just keep tumbling downhill) and essentially turned music into a full on combat system. Walkure never really was trying to empathize with the Windermerians or awaken them to the fact that they weren't so different, they were combating them and their evil song, and healing people with song therapy (itself something Macross 7 showcased and was one of the elements I was annoyed with there as well, who needs doctors when you have rock music after all..). So I don't blame Frontier specifically for what it did; even though they basically did the equivilant of midiclorians with song energy, but unlike The Force, no one really was that fond on song energy being a mysterious power already. I blame 7 for going from a sensible start to trying to overtech it in the wrong way, leaving a turd of an idea Frontier was left with no choice but to polish (and to be fair, they did an ok job of that). Delta on the other hand.... well they didn't really do as well at carrying the idea forward, and that is putting it lightly. So yeah Driver, I'm totally with you. Those three things are big fails of 7, but I'm glad to hear you are still able to enjoy the rather large amount of comparative good in Macross 7 as well, much as I have. There really is a lot to love if you can get through it and actually put aside your knee jerk reactions to the glaring issues, and I truly thing more people owe it to themselves to try. After all, it tells a story better than Delta did, lol.

Though didn't we see a new type of Regult in Delta ep.1 that had arms on it?

So when doing a song sequence. I can guess the glowly middle button is a power up and such but I am not entirely sure what it actually does during the song. It only works once for me and it just seems to add more lights and stuff. I don't know if it affects my score any. Anyone care to enlighten?

Does Macross Chronicle use Tenjin art for its covers? If not then none. This book is entirely artwork by Hidetaki Tenjin (most of what he does for Macross is used for model kit box art).