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Ah. And it all makes sense now. Again, it all makes sense now. Actually, there was only one accident. The drones never really succeeded, but only one M-21 was ever lost.

Yup. Scounge some old parts up and build an MS-DOS machine. Don't forget the ISA Soundblaster(my machine's major failing right now. SB16 emulation just ain't cuttin' it).

What about X-Wing VS TIE Fighter? I never got that one,(my system was inadequate when it was available), but it looked good.

*chuckles* I love that ad.

Figures. I've been waiting over a decade for them to make this game, and it sucks.

No..its quite relevant actually for comparison purposes. Or you can even say its the block 6 or later machines. the DYRL style controls is more of evolution of the original design. http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...s/variable/vf1/ Not really. The question has nothing to do with chronology, canon-ity, or anything else. It's just which you like better. I can like one corvette better than another without knowing what year it is. Hell, I can like a corvette better than a mustang without knowing which is which. It REALLY doesn't matter which came first.

Weren't those all CF squadrons?

Or from the fact that they're pretty obviously the same name, minor spelling quiblles aside?

Which has no real relevance on the discussion.

Almost guaranteed a reference.

Rubber Max... free with all 1/48 GBP purchases.

Is it the oil yellowing, or the plastic is being damaged by the oil? My experience with yellowing is limited to an SNES deck that was restored with a washcloth with rubbing alcohol splashed on it.

Hikaru's complaints about the sheer # of controls present in the VF-1D makes me lean towards the streamlined DYRL setup automatically.

Or both. Don't forget the DVD format IS capable of branching.

Chek a car with an automatic transmission. There's a lock button to prevent accidentally jostling it out of position. I would assume that VFs have a similar locking mechanism.

It depends, do you mean the one based off a VF-1? Or do you mean the sketch for the VF-11 variant in Macross Design Works? So that's the plane under it! ... What? It's hard to tell when it's buried under guns larger than the plane... I shter ea pic of the VF-1 variant, or just descriptions?

Sounds like Basara's been talking to the fighter designers recently.

Yeah but lacking evidence, is it really any more logical that they would have enough of a vector to descend into the atmosphere instead of just saying in orbit (much less being blasted out of orbit)? And of the ones coming down to atmosphere shoudln't most of these have been in slow decaying orbits instead of meteoric descents? Logic dictates that if something explodes, fragments go in all directions. And logic also dicates that a LOT of those 1.8 million destroyed vessels exploded(about 1 million were vaporized by the grand cannon, leaving 800,000 to be blown up by less unbconventional means). Which means that a lot of fragments DID head towards Earth. And yes, most of them should've taken the long way to get there instead of coming in in a straight line. But then they hit the atmosphere and either burned up or hit something, depending on what angle they hit at and how large they were. Either way, they introduce debris into the air. If they hit the ground they knock dust into the air. If they burn up in the atmosphere, it just means they're now a cloud of dust floating in the air. And dust is our enemy in this scenario.

MORE EWOK CARTOONS!1111 ... Oh gods... what if they make GUNGAN cartoons?

I actually thought that went way too fast to really appreciate it. It is cool, though. I think Guld's eye squishing out is what leaves the lasting impression though. That's why there's a slow-mo button. ... And I HATED watching Guld's body fail.

Well I'm not sure exactly how the Grand Cannon (or the Macross operates) but its basic science that even being destroyed by them would just convert the mass of everything into another form (vapor, constituent molecules, etc)... which could be worse than debris that can be dealt with (pushed into the sun or out into space or on another, lifeless, planet/moon, etc). Do we really KNOW there were "thousands" of impacts from Zentraedi ships on the surface of the Earth? Why? I don't seem to remember lots of kamikazes on the ground bombarded surface (that wasn't that thorough it looks like...) Good thing that South Ataria island happened to be where the ASS landed. It's logical that there were thousands of impacts. You don't just destroy 1.8 million ships and not have debris, even if most if it's sent flying out of the system(my assumptions regarding the Grand Cannon involved imparted velocity from the beam impact to the vessels/debris/vapor). What we KNOW is that ... approximately 1.8 million Zentradi vessels were destroyed in Earth orbit; one battleship, one fighter pod(Quel-Quallie, I think's the right name), and one GERWALK crashed on the surface; all 3 were largely intact; the battleship and fighter pod both imbedded themselves well enough to stand vertically while all 3 hit lightly enough to not destroy themselves; and the surviving humans began an atmospheric purification operation within a month of victory.

But has there been enough bitching that he includes an option to see the original cut instead of just special edition? *not intended to start another flame war*

Well, most sites only keep the most recent ROM image set. And the MAME crew likes to change them around for seemingly no reason. 2 ways to fix it... Update your MAME, or open teh ZIP file and edit the filenames.

What would someone vote if they wanted a Stampede Valk? *cackles maniacally*

Yes. The Grand Cannon was a key component to victory, clearing a path to Bodolzaa's flagshipwith it's firing(Too bad he was out of the way of the beam. They probably would've gotten away with far less spatial debris, and certainly with far fewer casualties). Of course, it was sheer luck that the Macross was headed that direction. If they were looking for someone over south Africa, it wouldn't have been very useful. But it still had to hit hard enough to imbed itself in the ground. I put its survival up to advanced alloys. Asteroid. And the flip side is that it was just one impact. The Earth at the end of Space War 1 was peppered with thousands of impacts. Plus, you forget that each and every one of those objects is in freefall and accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second, untill it hits either terminal velocity or the surface(likely the former). Whether it drifted out of the Kuiper Belt or was blasted off a giant space pickle is irrelevant. A lot of the damage was from the shockwave as it plowed through the atmosphere. And the impact damage was lessened by the low angle it came in at. If it'd come straight down, it would've been in much worse shape. As would the island it landed on. Yes. Pollution is the key. And always has been. The dinosaurs weren't killed by a giant wave of dirt that buried them alive. They died because pollution blotted the sun out, which stunted plant life, which stunted herbivores, which stunted carnivores. Add to that a rapidly cooling climate due to missing infrared radiation, and you have all the ingredients for a mass extinction. Whether it's one big impact, one million small impacts, or 1 billion objects vaporizing in the atmosphere is irrelevant, as long as enough dirt gets in the atmosphere(which doesn't take a titanic impact). The dirt thrown up by an individual impact may be trivial, but when you have a million such impacts it becomes signifigant.