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I think you can say that for pretty much all of their products... I guess maybe their Super deformed stuff might be all right, I haven't seen any close up. I've seen the pullback morpher things. Picked one up off the shelf once, saw a sticker saying, roughly, "This is a colelctable, not a toy. It is not intended to be used and it's not our fault if the thing expldoes when you open the package" and put it right back where it was. I'm sorry, but when the whole POINT of the thing is it winds up and rolls, it damn well BETTER not come with a disclaimer sayuing it's not intended to be wound up and rolled.

Kamjin shot the tower once, but well below the bridge. And the pinpoint barrier absorbed a lot of the damage.

I'm jsut saying, they'd be like a lot more than just Gundam if htey did do it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's actually what I was thinking of when I saw the thread title. Same here.

Most logical reason I've heard. ... Not that every OTHeR mech anime hasn't done it...

Yeah his head reminds me of Shockwave too. The whole body reminds me. Particularly the gunarm and chest area. ... As does the name. Ah well, at least they changed it a little. Shockwave's NAME is untarnished.

I am: Duo, the vaguely sane. This poll is: nonfunctional under Mozilla.

I think that's accurate. ... Unless you count the various FamiClones. Some of those have been sighted with Macross.

think he means the VF-1SR, one of the variants? I somehow doubt it.

SHOCKWAVE!!!!! NOOO!!!!!!!!!! :'( Not only is there no gun mode(big surprise THERE...), but whatever modes it DOES have are totally whacked out. The vehicle is all right, I guess, but the laser howitzer satellite of death...

'S pr'ly just a bad setting somewhere. Check and make sure your sound plugin has XA audio playback enabled. ... Personally, I prefer PSXeven to ePSXe currently.

Plus and 2 weren't delayed by any legal fuss that I know of. It's only recently that HG's started giving a crap one way or the other. And no, no Macross games have made it stateside. VFX2 almost did. It was canned at the last minute. Some suspect HG threatened legal action, but it's unverified.

I've always thoguht the destroid line DID continue on. You never SEE much of a ground fight in the later shows, so you wouldn't see much of the destroids. We know they made at LEAST one new model, and added transformation to it so it could more swiftly get where it was needed(see the VB-6).

The game is still available 1st-hand... http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-r-70-2...15-macross.html http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/SLPM-65405.html http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=...oducts_id=3825&

Hilde Hilde, come in here Hilde. What is it Dr. Heimlich? I have invented a maneuver! Asteroid cracker! If you don't see the problems that a user name "God" will cause... you should see my inbox full of complaints about it. I apologize. I was not aware that it was actually bothering anyone. It was not my intent to offend.

Ummm, yah. Was an IP ban REALLY necessary? Especially for something that was, to my knowledge, in violation of no rules whatsoever.

But, but... It has MAX in it!

They removed the baby-throwing scene too.

No, it's really more like having four lamps plugged into your home electrical sockets than one. The Valk's engines can (almost certainly) produce way more power than a single laser can handle. Indeed, as evidenced by the fact that it can fire the lasers while in operation.

I'd just like to note that as the Macross landed in the middle of the ocean, it wasn't very hard to hide. Especially if they made an effort to avoid major air traffic and sea traffic routes while coming in(because, you know, NOT smashing 747s full of people makes for a much happier homecoming).

Impossible. A ship can not simply be stationary, it can only be motionless in relation to it's surroundings. The Macross may have been stationary in relation to the surface of the Earth, but the Earth's surface was moving at about 1,000 mph (IIRC that is the rotational speed of the Earth), while the Earth moved rather rapidly around the sun, which itself was orbiting the center of the mily way, I could go on like this. The point is that a vessel can not simply be motionless, nothing can. It's one of the most basic tenets of reletivity. Another of the basic tenets of relativity is nothing can go faster than light. As a hyperspace fold does exactly this, I think we can accept that folding is NOT constrained by relativity. Funny, I always envisioned "folding" and "hyperspacing" to be complete different... here's how, according to what basic physics I know. Hyperspacing (or Warping?): You go FTL, travel takes time, but you run into A LOT of problems, mainly energy, mass, and the entire issue of time. Folding: A more "elegant" solution. You don't travel in the typical notion. Closest thing I think would be akin to opening up an artificial wormhole to your destination ("folding" the fabric of space and time), go through the wormhole, either using conventional drives or other methods, and appear on the other side almost instantaneously. There's the problem of how to open up a wormhole, and where you open it to, but from what I've read, it does seem to be more feasable than FTL travel (or hyperspacing). You also circumvent the entire time-space issue. A Macross-style fold DOES take time, though. Remember when Hikaru, Misa, and Kakizaki were captured and taken back to Bodolza's ship? And time seems directly proportional to trip length, which wouldn't be the case with wormholes, though it would with the more useful hyperspaces. What's even more signifigant is that fold time is slower than real time. Either they move at relativistic speeds, or they drop into a diffrent space with a seperate set of physics rules(commonly referred to within sci-fi as hyperspace). ... Which doesn't discount the possibility that it's a hybrid technology. They may use a combination of hyperspace AND "folding". Assuming both technologies are available, it's a optimum solution. Rambling elaboration... As I understand things, wormholes are great for going to the other side of the galaxy, but suck at only going a few light years, because they rely on the natural curvature of space, which doesn't put relatively close points on an adequate curve for a really useful wormhole. It's like tunneling in a straight line from Florida to California instead of Florida to Austraila. Sure you save some distance, but not a whole lot. I'll grant the power to punch a hole through space, but I have a hard time suspending reality enough for them to reform the entire curvature of space. The way hyperspace is typically conceived, it works better for short hops than long trips. Rather than "dropping through" into the other side of space, you drop into a nearby, but diffrent, universe where the "normal" laws of physics are not applicable. The best example I can think of showing how radically diffrent hyperspace can be is in Crest of the Stars, where "hyperspace" is a 2D plain instead of the 3D space of the "normal" universe. Typically, the most signifigant diffrence is more mundane. A higher or non-existant "speed limit", and lower energy levels required to get there. Obviously, this requires your nearby universe to have appropriate laws of physics for your purposes, and your hyperspace drive will probably have to protect you and your ship from them somehow. If hyperspace is "laid out" diffrently than normal space, a wormhole may get you to a place in hyperspace that's close to your destination when a wormhole in normal space wouldn't. So that's even better. You can drop into hyperspace, open a wormhole to another part of hyperspace, then pop out of the new part of hyperspace at your destination. You've saved yourself a large part of your trip through hyperspace. and skipped the need to alter the curvature of the universe. ... Assuming, of course, that your hyperspace is compatible with wormholes.

Impossible. A ship can not simply be stationary, it can only be motionless in relation to it's surroundings. The Macross may have been stationary in relation to the surface of the Earth, but the Earth's surface was moving at about 1,000 mph (IIRC that is the rotational speed of the Earth), while the Earth moved rather rapidly around the sun, which itself was orbiting the center of the mily way, I could go on like this. The point is that a vessel can not simply be motionless, nothing can. It's one of the most basic tenets of reletivity. Another of the basic tenets of relativity is nothing can go faster than light. As a hyperspace fold does exactly this, I think we can accept that folding is NOT constrained by relativity.

The barrier systems were human-developed, as I recall. An ingenious application of the energy released from their "dimensional rift." I like that one. Guess our heroes were lucky it wasn't mis-calibrated to scatter the folded party across several kilometers of open space instead of in one nice solid chunk. Or to fail in transit so that no defold operation happened. Either that or the blast of the cannon was too much for the unrestored/insufficient power connections that were weakened by the landing or were designed for a much, much lower power flow rate. Also possible.

Maybe I missed that part just now. Do you remember when in the episode he says that? Episode time: 4m:17s. It's an ambiguous phrase (computers didn't exactly have the amount of attention in 1980 as they do now...) since it could me circuit board or software. But in either case, a program had to have interpretted the sensor readings as hostile and such, overrided a manual overide. So there has to have been some software running. I interpreted it to mean the Macross' power grid was fluctuating. The main gun wasn't fired "properly", so various systems were not reconfigured for the massive energy discharge, and the subsequent sag and spike upset stuff. So the grav generators weren't charged properly and failed to generate a large enough field to lift them AND their surroundings, and then the fold generator was overcharged and generated too much field. And succeeded in generating enough of a warp to drop itself permanently into hyperspace and rip a nice little hole in the fabric of reality while it was at it. ... I wonder what all can be powered off those rifts, anyways. The barrier system is, obviously, but can they do anything else with it? Hyperspace cannon, or something.