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*sighs* I need one of those for PN3. 'Cube's d-pad sucks. ... Except PN3 needs the analog stick too.

I like the VB, poor screen refresh aside. Comfort I've already said my piece on. Memorizable... The PS is the ONLY system where I have to look at the controller when button labels are mentioned, because Sony had to be diffrent and use random shapes instead of something reasonable. Not that Nintendo's backwards labels were the best thing ever, but I could at least remember them. They could've at LEAST used logical shapes, like ^, V, <, and >. I don't hit the wrong button on ANYTHING due to controller design. Except the DualShock's L3 and R3. ... Though my experience with the original XBox pad did leave me with a rather sour taste. Thumb hit the right analog stick every time I went for the A button, which was just too dang close to the stick.

The Advantage is nice for a cheap joystick. Nowhere near arcade-grade(heck, the stick isn't even microswitched), but nice for the price point. But comparing it to a DualShock is like comparing apples to Apples. It's over a decade old, and totally lacking in ... well, buttons mainly. You can't play a PS game with it, and that's the main problem. Now THIS... http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-70-5w3.html ... is unfair on the other end. But the subject of joysticks is a lot more subjective. I think something like the above is an optimum solution, though it can't play anything needing analog sticks. I don't think it even supports analog buttons(if it did, I wouldn't pay near that for it). But it's a good layout, with good parts.

Would you care to clarify what was "flawed and outdated" about the dual shock design? I've used just about every 1st party game controler and found them to be all garbage compared to Sony's design. Microsoft's are either too big or have the buttons in akward positions, it hurts to hold the Dreamcast controler after about an hour and the D pad has a habit of biting into your thumb, the Gamecube, is by far the worst, too damn small. Sony didn't need to redesign their controler, it was fine as is. I agree with everything you said except the GC controller. I think the size is a perfect middle ground so that female gamers (like myself) don't have to struggle holding it like I did the XB and DC controllers. Those made my hands hurt nect to the N64's analog surface. The GC's controller flaw is the button design from the location of the X and Y buttons, the size of the A button to the stupidly placed Z trigger. Thank goodness for controller port converters. Sega Saturn controllers were the best IMO. Itnerestingly enough... I compared earlier. The 'Cube pad is slightly BIGGER than a DualShock. Personally, I like the 'Cube button layout. For properly-mated games. It won't win any awards for fighting game controller of the year, obviously. but there's no way I'd play Metroid Prime with anything else. For the record... Z is stupidly placed because it wasn't an original design feature. They realized they were short a button for Smash Brothers and wedged another in.

PSX was never an official system name. The origins are hard to trace, but it SEEMS to stem from a typo in an early magazine article about Sony's upcoming new video game system. It was accidentally dubbed PSX in the preview, and it stuck.

PS1/2 and DC controllers are the only ones that do not make my hand and fingers hurt after hours of continuous use. Maybe they just didn't give any consideration to people raised on NES/SNES pads. I hate the NES pads, too. The original bricks, anyways. The "dogbone" pads are okay. SNES is iffy, but livable. I'll take a 3-button Genesis pad over either of them any day, though(too bad the 6-button is so much smaller). If anyhting, I was raised on 99/4a joysticks. And those are an abomination like you've never felt. I wouldn't wish them upon anyone. Nice case, but the sticks are stiff, mushy, and unresponsive. And Dreamcast? I'd really hate to see your hands if that monstrosity is a comfortable pad(I love my DC anyways). ... On the other hand, I'm one of perhaps a dozen people that likes the 5200 sticks(when they work). So perhaps I'm not one to talk about odd controller preferences...

So you're waiting for the Starscream Binaltech? Or even an equivalent to GERWALK, save the original Jetfire. WE WANT MORE TRIPLE-CHANGERS HASBRO!

Respectfully, I have to disagree. It's a kludgy upgrade to an SNES pad that was originally done with JUST enough changes to make it look like it was new, while not infringing on whatever intellectual property claims Nintendo had on their pad(there are historical reasons for this). The extra shoulder buttons are there SOLELY so that the pad looked like an upgrade over the SNES, and have been largely ignored by developers. No consideration was ever given to ergonomics, and it is painfully obvious to any seasoned gamer. And pressure-sensitivity is THE most moronic feature I've EVER seen. ESPECIALLY to a full byte of accuracy. There simply isn't enough travel room for anything approaching accurate control past off, on, and mashed down(I WILL grant 3 states). And this is coming from someone familiar with the Power Glove, U-Force, idiotic rocking platforms for directional control, the TurboTouch 360s, and the Game Handler(which was a joystick that had no base, used mercury switches to track motion, and could glitch games by spewing unreasonable data at them). Oh, and the millions of 3rd-party pads with slo-mo buttons. When I say a feature is idiotic, I speak from experience.

I see nothing wrong with the first four points though the mode and select button have been fairly useless. Personaly I like the button lay out, with four face buttons all four buttons are decently sized and all underneath your thumb, the same goes for the four triggers. I absolutly hated the long pull on the Dreamcast and xbox. I also hated how the xbox had six face buttons, meanting two buttons wern't already under your thumb. Maybe it's been fixed with the Dual Shock 2(I think they softened it up a fair bit), but Sony's PS1 d-pads are the ONLY gaming device to EVER give me a blister. I despise twin trigger buttons. I've never gotten along with them. The long pull on DC, GC, and XBox triggers... depends on what you're doing. If you're getting analog input, it kicks ass(pressure sensitivity can bite me). But if you're using them as digital buttons... worthless. 4 face buttons being all underneath my thumb? How come every time I need to hit more than 2 at once I've got an index finger on the button pad next to my thumb? Anyways, I prefer having 6. Lets me get something out of sliding left as well as sliding right. I've never thought of shoulder buttons as primary action keys, nor have most developers. They just aren't in a good position for the task. And the Dual Shock design has always given me a sore left thumb after any real play time with analog control. ... And now that I'm ranting... the Dual Shock handles are akwardly sized. Too small to serve as comfortable handrests, too large to ignore. The perfect digital pad was the Saturn pad. This is uncontested among serious gamers. Even at my most nitpicky, the only real change I would make is moving the start button to above the action keys, like the Genesis 3-button pad was. Pause should be instant access. While more debated, I say the perfect analog pad was the Saturn analog pad(AKA the Nights controller). Not that either is a substitute for a good joystick when the situation calls for one. Unfortunately, the contest for worst pad ever is a lot hotter.

Would you care to clarify what was "flawed and outdated" about the dual shock design? Fanged d-pad. 4 face, 4 shoulder button layout. Analog thumbsticks way too low. D-pad in primary left thumb location instead of thumbstick. The existence of the select button. The existence of the mode button.

Actually, the dark opressive personality is present in all their divisions. That's why the Net Yaroze was so bastardized from it's original concept of making a full PS1 dev kit available to consumers. It's also why they actively put graphics abouve gameplay in their game approval process. By most counts, publishers have extreme trouble getting licenses for 2D game releases in the US at all, regardless of game quality. Based on the shelves, they can only get the linceses as bargain releases and bundle deals. I would be happier if Sony had stayed out of the video game market totally. I think they've been nothing but trouble for the industry, and to hell with the sales numbers that say otherwise.

It's been ages since I've heard Robotech. I remember the title sequence was catchy... And Minmay only had one song</mild_exageration>.

Ah-ha... so then they must be COOLNESS emitters! Therefore proving the YF-19 is an inherently bad plane, since no other mech in the series needs them.

The PSX was doomed, if not from day one then when they started ripping features out to appease other divisions.

Hey, I didn't say it was a good reason to redo the thing. It's just my bet on the actual diffrence.

I say powerfull headmounted infrared spotlight for complete darkness situations. better than the 2 shoulder lights on the vf-1. second guess would be a directional speaker so basara can sing before sound booster was invented. ps i know sound doesn't travel in space but in the mac7 universe it does. Actually, I think the speaker pod guns are there precisely beause sound DOESN'T travel in space. Of course, Minmay just used the radio... read the ps duh. For the mac7 universe is slightly off, hence all the speakers that are built on the sound force valks and the sound boosters. just to note im not a mac7 fan *kicks keith as he tries to hop in* I only commented BECAUSE of the PS. Basara had the speakerpod gun from episode 1. Which shot large and expensive stereos into enemy mechs so he could make them LISTEN TO HIS SONG, even with no air.

I say powerfull headmounted infrared spotlight for complete darkness situations. better than the 2 shoulder lights on the vf-1. second guess would be a directional speaker so basara can sing before sound booster was invented. ps i know sound doesn't travel in space but in the mac7 universe it does. Actually, I think the speaker pod guns are there precisely beause sound DOESN'T travel in space. Of course, Minmay just used the radio...

C2 likely means "costume 2". Which, if I remember correctly, is the same thing in white instead of blue.

I KNOW! It's the speaker! So you can LISTEN TO HIS SONG! *dodges bricks*

HEY! KITT is NOT gay!

I don't get it.

didn't think it was possible for rt for mess up his name. what did they use? ray fooker In a remarkably logical change, they used "Fokker" for the last name.

They did seplling and grammar fixes? I never noticed.

I think all ASS was doing was ripping bootlegs.

Super poseable but really really costly Usually very high maintenance as well . Graham However, keep in mind they come equipped with a legioss style docking ability and a great deal of sensory stimulation equipment. "Girls" are actually an excellent buy - if you have the money. But since I'm broke I stay home and play with my toys. ... BAD MENTAL IMAGE! Or to continue the theme... COVER THAT NOSECONE!