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You completely missed my point. Of course those old games are garbage, and nearly unplayable. It's called hindsight. But nobody questioned it back in "the day" because that's all there was! We played them bcause they were the first and only video games out there, and nobody dreamed that we'd have any consoles remotely like what we have today. We sure as hell didn't sit around and complain about how much better Tekken 3 was going to be compared to Intellivision Boxing. No. You sat there complainng how much better INTV Baseball was next to 2600 Baseball, in the first console war.

Meh. Was a good enough excuse for me. Observation: Anime on DVD has BG Crash listed as coming out before Macross. That would be because AOD is listing the retail release, which was later than the direct pre-order release from AnimEigo. That doesn't make sense. I was running off the 9-disk set, which never HAD a retail release. Besides which, the December 2001 release date matches teh reception of my set. If, of course, you're talking about BG CRash, that makes things worse, as it makes Crash come out even FURTHER before Macross.

As far as I can tell, that's an accurate assessment of things.

" Vin Diesel is the only person to ever achieve a negative ping. "

It's funny how much cheesier the gorn looks on a modern show.

Donkey Kong actually PLAYED all right, though. Never mind that there wasn't enough ROM space for all 4 playfields. Seen a few for GameBoy and NES. Coelco actually got sued over that and their Gemini console(which was a 2600 clone), for what it's worth. They settled out of court for a good sum of money, if I recall my history right.

We got a reasonably good deal on ours, relatively speaking. Got it at the end of the Texas state fair after a long run of bad weather. Between the waether and we'd expressed interest in previous years, they came down on the price a bit and threw in some accessories. Also borrowed one from a friend to see how well it worked well before we bought ours. Wasn't a spur-of-the-moment decision. As far as dust belching... my nose says it puts a lot less dust back out than our Hoover, which is several years newer(was bought because setting the Rainbow up can be a pain sometimes for the terminally lazy, an affliction my family suffers from). I can SMELL the dust leaking out of that one. But... on the negative side of things: Our power head plugs up fairly regularly. Say once a month it has to be opened and a big wad of dog hair picked out of the entrance to the pipe. And the thing is LOUD. Biggest improvement on the current model based on what I've seen is it's far quieter.

Man, you kids today... You just have no clue what the world was like before you graced it with your presence, do you? Seriously...maybe next you can comment on some old silent B&W movie you saw on late night PBS, and marvel that people "actually watched it." Or perhaps you can test drive a car thats more than 25 years old, and report on how disappointing its 3-speed manual tranny was. Or you could pick on 8-tracks, AM radio, carbureted engines, and betamax. You're free to share your opinions here, but you're going to have to realize that you have zero perspective on how the tech we have today came to be. Saying that you take things for granted is putting it lightly. Well did say he had a Commodore 64 and Odyessey those are old. The 2600 and Colecovision were my favorites back then. Ya Atati 2600 games are to hard to play now. I don't find them interesting like I did back in the early 80's. The 2600 had the worst versions of Pac-Man and Donkey Kong ever lol I've seen some worse versions surface. Usually as poorly-done efforts at making a flash game.

That's EMPRESS Hoshi. Looks like they're carrying this plot on for a third episode. Can't say I object, as it's the most fun I've had watching TV for some time.

I bet they do.

Meh. Was a good enough excuse for me. Observation: Anime on DVD has BG Crash listed as coming out before Macross.

Got a Rainbow here. Drowns the dust in water. Aside from being a quite decent(and cheap!) filtration media, it makes emptying the canister a lot cleaner. ... And safer for those of us with serious dust allergies. With very few exceptions, every vacuum ever made kicks some dust into the air when it's emptied. As someone that gets really sick when he inhales any signifigant quantity, this is a Bad Thing There are some models I literally cannot use because of how much dust gets thrown up when I empty them.

Hey, the last thing I want to see is a pixellated penis jumping out at me. Ah... gotta love Hollywood. "We've got this movie. It's really cool. Bunch of awesome space creatures beating the crap out of each other. " "Ooooh, I like it. But no parent will bring their kid to see this. Gotta clean it up." "But... Alien... Predator... excessive violence is what people WANT in this license." "CLEAN UP! MUST HAVE KIDDIES!" Not surprised, really. This IS the same industry that sued a cable channel for not selling them children's ad space for their R-rated film. (Nickelodeon, Fifth Element) ... Of course, AVP was likely edited to get teens in, not little kids. But still...

Heh. I can just see a stray shot from a cannon fodder causing a barrier overload. "BrowniePilot has just PKed the fleet".

If you allow a mix of AI bots and player characters, it becomes far less difficult to get a suitable team assembled. Of course, if anyone is trying for actual role-playing, it'll be kind of torpedoed by the fact that "RoyFocker1234654173" and "MaxSterlingCuzMacrossSuxNRobotechRulez!11111" keep disappearing from the Daedalus and being replaced with "Drone 114" and "Drone257." ... Which, sadly, would quite likely be an improvement, as the drones would play along instead of going "D00d, WTF R U DOING ROELPLAY IZ TEH GHEY".

Macross is single-layer. By design, as Animeigo wanted maximum compatibility, and a lot of old players act squirrely with dual-layer media. A problem compounded by the fact that their data said that most people buying anime DVDs had older players, meaning the majority of their market had trouble with dual-layer disks.

Perhaps, but there are enough to get stores to sell out. But hey, everyone can't be an early adopter. Otherwise, you'd have 10 million people trying to buy a system at launch, and then no one would want to buy one for the next five years. Perhaps that was unclear. I meant in the minority as far as "it still works" went. Oh, absolutely. If they wanted it badly enough to pay upwards of $1000 for it, why didn't they want it badly enough to preorder it somewhere and save themselves a lot of money and a lot of hassle? Well, I'll just take it as proof that heath care in America is good, and that natural selection isn't working so well. I think some of them DID preorder them. A lot of places had far more preorders than decks. Pretty much. I mean, his basement is like a treasure trove of dead systems, and he's constantly scouring flea markets and Goodwills looking for rare gems... that he'll never play. Pity. I almost fell to that myself a while back. But the collector mentality has never been strong with me, and I got back to playing. I mostly emulate NES and SNES. I haven't really bothered to emulate older systems, mostly because I can't remember where the games I liked were. When I was very young, I had an Atari 800XL, a Commodore 64, and an Odyssey. I've checked out a few Atari 2600 Atari games, and frankly, I can't believe people actually played them. I've viewed emulation mainly as a way to sample games I never had(since I still own everything I liked when I was younger). And yah, some of the VCS/2600 stuff is just rancid. But some of it is damn fun, too. ... And if you ever want to appreciate how far hardware can be pushed before it's maxed out... the VCS has 2 sprites, 2 bullets, and 128 bytes of RAM. No, that is not a typo. I did not mean kilobytes. And yet, everything from real-time strategy to first-person shooter to text adventure to RPG to a somewhat decent version of chess has been put on it(though there wasn't enough RAM to let the computer contemplate it's move and draw the screen at the same time...). That seems to be the way it usually goes. People either love 2 and are lukewarm on the rest, or they like the others and aren't keen on 2. Personally, I loved 3. I liked a lot of World also. I may like 3 a lot more if I ever sat down and gave it enough of a chance. I try to think of it this way... the robots in the orignal series had very advanced AIs. They had preprogrammed personalities, and were able to analyze situations and make decisions based on their programming. Rock volunteered to fight against Wily because Light programmed him with a sense of right and wrong and the idea that he should help others. That creates an illusion of independant thought, but they actually lack a free will. What you've described is... well, it's what humans do, except we develop our personalities as we grow.And it's not volunteering unless you have free will. Also, Protoman has, on one occasion, directly refused a command from Dr. Light. But Rock was programmed to clean house, not defend the world from crazy people. IMO, "programming concludes that he should" and "believes it is the right thing" are synonomous, anyways. One just uses more technical words.

Wouldn't Keith say that is all about the power of music and love? Oooohhh... Create character: civilian. Class: musician. Additional skill: Valkyrie pilot. LISTEN TO MY SONG!

VF-1's output power was listed in PS, or Pferde Starke (horse power), so it would be safe to think Macross listed other outputs in all measure system but Gundam's kw. It think it's "brake horsepower" rather than base. Try google for more info (like this). FV More likely, the Macross mecha use mechanical linkages for drivetrain, necessitating extra measures, as kW is USUALLY used for electrical output. Most notably, the VF-1's turbine engine is a known mechanical drive mechanism. I would assume that the PS is the turbine, and kW is the electrical output, since both units are spec'ed, and electrical power available goes up in battroid mode, when the jet turbine is shut down.

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An extra hundred bucks for an extra year of gaming. Fair enough to me. And, for the record, my launch PS2 still works fine. If I can get a backwards compatible Xbox 360, and if Perfect Dark Zero is a launch game, I'll be happy enough. Congratulations, you're in the minority as I understand things. I still don't see how it was worth the hassle to grab one on launch day. But we can at least agree that hte eBay people were morons, right? I'm not saying that you're not a gamer. The fact that you're posting in this thread says you are. I'm just saying that I'm really hardcore about my gaming... most games I pick up, I finish within a week. When one game's done, I need another. I'm not saying that Nintendo doesn't make some good games, but I am saying that even if I thought Nintendo had the best games, I'd still need more. That's actually why I bought all three systems. Ah. I've never been good enough to clear games out very fast, even when I did sink massive amounts of time into them. Combine that with mild ADD, and I tend to hop around from game to game. Also ben leaning heavily towards arcade games lately. My current tastes tend towards things you can just sit down and blow stuff up for a few minutes. He's made the transition from player to collector, eh? And yah, emulation is nice. Thing I've found is the systems I most want to emulate just aren't emulated well. The existing 5200 emulators, especially. They're embarassingly bad hackjobs. Ah, once you get around the ridiculous marketing blitz, the inane anime, and the sacharine monsters, Pokemon is actually an amazingly addictive game. I approached it as a run-of-the-mill RPG. Was decidedly unimpressed with the game, and found party management to be more of a nuisance than anything else. I've got my copy of SNK VS Capcom Cardfighers Clash. It seems to do for me what Pokemon does for a lot of other people. Irony: Super Mario 2 is the one I enjoy the most. That's how I felt about Megaman Legends. Seriously, Battle Network isn't so bad. It's a fun little remix. It's just a shame that Capcom is beating it to death. I dodged Legends, thankfully. My feelings about Battle Network... it's a fun enough game, but I bought it expecting something more like Network Transmission. Yeah, yeah, I should've done some research first. But ... it's a Megaman game. Megaman games are platform shooters. When did the X series have continuity? It was always sort of tenuous from day one, really. Being cast as a sequel to the original series left them with some uncomfortable plot holes. Most notably: X is the first robot that can think for himself. Rock volunteered to be converted into a fighting robot. Volunteering requires you can think for yourself. Protoman also seemed to do a lot of independent thinking, while we're at it. ... Pity they won't do any more original Megaman games. I sorta wanted to see them try and transition from Rock to X without crashing. I'm still hovering at X6, for what it's worth. Haven't played 7, 8, or Command Mission. CM is really the only one that interests me right now. Tangentally related: I think Capcom secretly hates me. Ever since Marvel VS Capcom came out, I've been insisting they need to put Zero in. Then when they do for SNK VS Capcom, they use the Megaman Zero character design. I wanted oldschool Zero. ... Of course, oldschool Zero probably suffered enough gender confusion without Demitri putting him in a dress. SNES characters should NOT wear nipple armor and a ponytail unless they want to be flagged as girls(X4 came as something of a shock to me, what with the voices and everything...).

No, as I recall, Square went with Sony because Final Fantasy VII was impossible on a cartridge. The bad blood was less because of some beef that Square had with Nintendo, and more Nintendo being unhappy that Square had broken ties with them and handed their new rival a smash hit. FF7 needed CDs because Square moved to the PS. Remember the early hype where they were rendering FF6 chars on a SGI workstation? They were serious about N64 support until Sony made them a good offer. And Nintendo didn't get mad when Square left. They got mad when Square, seeing they didn't get mad, came back and talked Enix into leaving. Which isn't entirely irrational. It isn't only the launch games that matter... it's the potential games throughout the entire life span of a console. People who wanted a PS2 just because it was a PlayStation were obviously very satisfied with the original PlayStation. Despite the dissapointing technical limitations of the PS2, chances are most of those early adopters wound up satisfied. I know I wouldn't be satisfied paying a hundred bucks more than everyone else(minimum, I don't even want to THINK about the thousands they were going for on eBay) AND getting a notoriously unreliable model of deck in the process. I'm a gamer. I don't watch much TV, because I'd rather play games. I confine my reading to after I go to bed but before I fall asleep, because given the choice, I'd rather play a game. To that end, a handful of "masterpieces" aren't going to cut it for me, because once they're done, they're done. A dozen 8 and 9's are better to me than 5 10's, because that's 7 more games to keep me entertained. I'm hurt that you would accuse me of not being a gamer. I've got a dozen diffrent systems hooked up right now. I've got over a hundred carts for my 2600 alone. And I don't watch TV much either. But it's because there's not much worth watching. I admitted it's personal preferences. The games I wanted included such things as PN3, which has been drug over the coals more times than I care to count. Again, not a big fan of Nintendo's first party games. Haven't liked a Mario or Zelda since the SNES days. Actually, my favorite Nintendo franchise these days would be Pokemon... *twitch* I loathe Pokemon. And honestly, I was never a big Mario fan even in the NES days. ... But what Capcom's been doing to the once-proud Megaman franchise makes me sad. If they did, and then they made it "thugged-up" to shake the kiddy image, I'd buy it just for laughs(same reason I bought Street Fighter 2010).

I wish they actually would have printed a 9th insert. It would have saved the trouble of answering "Where's my insert in volume 9?" a billion times. If anything the "missing" insert proves that people don't read... Don't read the liner notes they were complaining about not getting, anyways...

well then that another reason to dislike lucas, if the action shot is too hard, then dont do it, dont try to fake it, thats one of the reasons todays movies arent as good, used to be aside from some off camera stuff like pads and wires, all the stuff that happened really happened which is what made it cool, these days theyll CG half the shot, and paste the actors face in Pfft. It's not the design of the action sequences that's made movies go downhill. It's the fact that Hollywood realized they could assemble a catchy-looking ad and guarantee movie profits without a decent script. That's why most non-action movies suck too. As for not doing the action shot if you can't actually do it in real life... Am I the only person that sees they hypocrisy in expressing this sentiment on a message board devoted to a show about 30-foot tall aliens and transforming planes? Besides which, stop motion was being used for this stuff LONG before Lucas came around. He just perfected it on his way to other, more advanced, effects. Ironically, he took flak for it at the time. Harryhausen resented Star Wars' perfect stop-motion with computers nudging the models as the shutter opened to add that touch of motion blur. Said that stop-motion wasn't SUPPOSED to look realistic and that it was a cheapening of his art. Personally, I think anyone watching an XWing swoop down on a TIE fighter, then seeing King Kong's fur creep across his back like a swarm of ants, would disagree.

Pause breifly. Mature as it is usually used in the context of console wars, especially Nintendo VS the world, usually means A. M-rated software, and B. gore and violence. GameCube has the HIGHEST RATIO OF M GAMES of any of the 3 consoles. We've come a long way from censored Mortal Kombat. Correction: Sony and MS are putting out powerful hardware and letting 3rd parties supply realism. Neither one has any signifigant console game development facilities. Nintendo HAS made effort to snag 3rd parties on the 'Cube. And get more mature titles at the same time. Remember the Resident Evil exclusive deal? Okay, so Capcom is allegedly porting RE4 to PS2, but Nintendo still has exclusives on RE0 and the (latest) RE1 remake, and the general belief is the PS2 just can't do RE4 as it exists on the 'Cube. I think the 'Cube has the greatest percentage of niche games. PS2 and XBox cater more to the mainstream. ... On the other hand, PS2 just has the most games. That gives it a big advantage in this sort of thing. Lot easier to find something you want. Then how come world-wide GameCube and XBox are tied for a painfully distant second place? Funny. Most of my SNES games ARE third-party. The NES wasn't built on Mario and Zelda alone. The Contras, the Megamans, the Metal Gears, the Gradiuses, the Castlevanias, they were easily every bit as important to Nintendo's success. Nintendo knew this. That's why everyone had to sign abusive license agreements that kept their NES games as system-exclusives. They'd've done it on the SNES too if they weren't trying to lure back developers that moved tot he Genesis and got bit by the exact same sort of license agreements over there. How have they changed, exactly? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! Nintendo lost Square because they didn't care about them. They had Enix. They liked Enix. Square left because Nintendo had a long and proud history of abusing them and favoring Enix. And Nintendo didn't care. The famous "Square can have a dev kit over my dead body" crap that was going on later was because when Square saw Nintendo didn't care about their defection to Sony, they talked Enix into moving development to the Playstation. THAT was what set Yamauchi off. Not that Square left them, but that they lured Enix into leaving. Before FF7, the RPG was a minor niche market in the US. And Enix had more respect in Japan. Sony was doing what everyone had been doing for ages. ATARI had exclusivity licenses with 3rd parties. If you're rational. The people that bought PS2s on launch day were buying them because they were PlayStations. OR you could only buy the stuff that looks interesting. There are a lot of hardcore gamers that buy very few games because they think most of them are crap. Personally, I got the system that had not the most good ones, but the BEST ones. I'd rather have a few masterpieces than a lot of not-bads. And the NES, and the 2600, and the Colecovision, and the SNES and Genesis... I just tell people to buy the system with the games they want. Eventaully, I'll have all 4 current-gen systems. My Dreamcast and GameCube are serving me well, but I already own a few PS2 and XBox titles that I deemed must-haves. So does Sony. Everyone has a few deficencies. Reason I don't sell my games. Sure, I may get kinda pissed at my NES occasionally when it doesn't want to behave, or wonder what my 2600 would fetch on eBay, but ultimately I come back to the games. Be it Asteroids, Metal Storm, PN3, Valkyrie Profile, something draws me to an ignored console, I dust it off, power it up, and lose a few hours of my life to a game I thought I wasn't ever going to play again. Also a strong argument for a Nintendo system. As I said, in my opinion it doesn't have the most good games, but it DOES have the best games.