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Munimula!!! 316747[/snapback] Hummakavulla! 316891[/snapback] I don't think EITHER of you played Afterlife.

What you describe is pretyt much impossible. Just because you have a fusion reactor doesn't mean you have infinite thrust. For one, you have to carry enough fusable material to keep the reaction going during the entire mission. For two, you need enough reaction mass to jetison. Once you run out of reaction mass, you lose the ability to maneuver in space, even if you brought enough hydrogen to run for a million years. And reaction mass is simple newtonian physics. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Eject a pound of stuff out at 30 miles an hour, you impart a momenteum of 30 miles an hour/pounds of space ship in the opposite direction. I think the tiles are ceramic, actually. I forget how many get shed with every re-entry, but it's a lot. And we haven't had tile impact problems yet, just hte one RCC panel. Though NASA did observe a "sandpapering" effect after one foam reformulation. The foam USED to powder off during liftoff. As I recall, they reformulated it to stop that because it was putting nasty gouges in the tiles and they were worried about heatshield integrity. Of course, chunks weren't considered an issue because "it never hit the shuttle before." That was an idea they pitched. It likely wouldn't ahve done any good, as any trajectory low enough to prevent blowtorching wouldn't have been too low to actually re-enter. The Apollos were in orbit too. Just a larger orbit. If it bounced up, it GAINED energy. You can't go up against gravity without actually accelerating. And you can't accelerate without gaining energy.Skipping off the atmosphere is sort of like jumping on a trampoline. You hit it, it bends a little, and then throws you back up. Now imagine gravity has only the slightest hold on that rock, and the rock has to fire thrusters to move down towards the water. And that the lake is curving away from the rock as it travels.

No, we're just looking at them a LOT closer than we used to. Like the current shuttle mission. There was "grout" sticking up between some of the ceramic tiles. They know its happened before, and that we've seen up to a quarter inch of it after the shuttle lands and who knows how much has burned off. But the don't have a clue if this one is safe, because that's aLL they know. They've no clue as to how much burns off on re-entry. The part that takes the brunt of things is actually the leading edge. That's why the front faces are all RCC panels instead of ceramic tiles. The black parts get the hottest. The belly DOES take more than the top, though. In space, yes. And not burn up. Aerodynamics don't mean anything in space. In an atmosphere, they mean less friction, which means less heat. Well, it'd be a lot more complex, for very little gain. The tiles aren't a problem. And it would greatly reduce the control you have over re-entry.

Batman Begins is diffrent, as that universe regularly gets rebooted. But I see what you mean. Sort of like DYRL, with a movie version of Macross 7. Only this time Kawamori cites the movie as the real version of events and the TV series as a cheezy drama series based on it. It could work.

Fine. Guld CONTINUED after the Ghost because both him AND Yang believed Isamu couldn't take it. lol! No. Try not to pass your speculations as proof that Isamu couldn't handle the Ghost X9. Wait, so you're saying that Isamu could continue to operate controls accurately while Guld's eyeballs exploded? It's not speculation. As to your Hi-G stuff, it's non-sequitur. Isamu would've just use a different tactic against the X9. Guld didn't know anything else, so he went bruteforce kamikaze since it's his only option. Because he DIDN'T just spend 10 minutes dogfighting Isamu? He knew how to shoot stuff. Furthermore, skillwise, Isamu dominated Guld in every battle and contest between the YF-19 and the YF-21. There was the scoreboard to verify that. And again, Guld missed pointblank in the atmospheric freefall and missed with his final missile-barrage. He did not DOMINATE Guld in every single batlte and contest. He was wild, reckless, and tended to do things like shoot the hostage and leave the course for the sake of doing some elaborate skywriting which, while impressive, doesn't score points. Another speculation and cannot be proven since Guld's the only one who can control the YF-21 with the BCS/BDI system. It's neither stated nor implied that only Guld could use the BCS. And it's a well-founded speculation. The zentradi were genetically engineered to be warriors. They have more durable bodies than humans. The BCS removes the need to manipulate controls, which was impossible during the maneuvers needed to keep pace with the Ghost, regardless of what your inner fanboy says. Again, see my response above regarding your Hi-G speculation. It's a matter of knowing more tactics to use than just bruteforce. Again see my response about the extended dogfight immediatly preceding the Ghost showing Guld can fight. Huh? How did I say the test was rigged to make the YF-19 win? I don't see that in any of my posts. But to entertain you, Guld was the designer of the YF-21 and no other pilot knows how to work it. Unlike the YF-19, which lost 2-3 pilots prior to Isamu. Isamu proved to be the only one who can handle the YF-19. If no other pilot knew how to work it, and could not be trained to do so in a short period of time, it was worthless. You forget that Project Supernova was to select a new MASS-PRODUCTION GENERAL-USE fighter for aLL of UN Spacey. Not to show off a pair of badass, but ultimately useless, concept planes. And the tests being done required pilots of equivalent skill. When you have both mecha in the same map at the same time shooting at the same targets, if one pilot is far more skilled than the other he will USUALLY come out ahead, regardless of who has the better vehicle. As Project Supernova was about finding the better PLANE, not the better PILOT, they sought pilots of equivalent skill level. However back to the testing, that's just basic-piloting and synthetic tests for the YF-21 and does not compensate for actual combat-situations with other combat-variables. This is proven quite distinctly when Guld lost complete control of the YF-21 when Isamu's VF-11B popped up between him and the last dud-missile. Isamu never lost control of the situation. Think about that. Again, you're citing Guld's mental problems as proof that he wasn't a qualified combat pilot, as opposed to proof he was mentally ill. Easy. It's called desperate gamble since Guld's tactics were insufficient to deal with the X9. Sure, he can follow the X9, but that's about it. The X9 pretty much tore his YF-21 apart and Guld's left with no other option but a kamikaze-run. The X9 never HIT his YF-21. The simple fact was that even with teh BCS and BDI, the Ghost was capable of dodging anythign he threw at it(presumably it was either equipped with anti-optical armor, or could dodge laser fire by detecting the pre-fire charge). Guld was not stupid. He knew that he still had weapons. He CHOSE not to use them. That's tactical superiority. Guld did not know that tactic at all, but Isamu does. That's a honed skill and applied to combat effectively by Isamu. If I recall, Isamu said Guld TAUGHT him the technique. I may be mistaken. As a fighter-pilot or any soldier or even a welder for cryin' out loud, you are not supposed to lost focus and concentration. Otherwise, you're dead on the field quite quickly or you will cause the deaths of your comrades. That's why there's training to help avoid that specific situation. Military-training and experience in the case of Isamu. And if you have a severe mental illness that does not impair you except in the presence of a single human being in the universe? Does the military account for that? Or does it not worry about it? Given Millard swept it under the rug AFTER Isamu showed up, I assume UN Spacey prefers the latter. By the time Guld noticed the YF-19's shadow, it would've been too late had Isamu been bent on killing him like Guld was intent on killing Isamu. That's why Isamu had smirky attitude because both of them knew who has the superior position and there was no need to demonstrate it further. Except that Guld still had all his fighter's systems online, as opposed to just teh minimum needed to keep it in the air. The INSTANT anything happened he would know, and be in full capacity to deal with it. Which wouldn't matter at all and is quite irrelevant since Guld did not detect Isamu at all until he saw the YF-19 shadow. Isamu shut almost all the YF-19's systems down SPECIFICALLY to minimize his visibility to sensors(specifically, the ones in the missiles on his tail). He was running the flaps, and presumably the active stealth system since he wasn't showing up on radar and the 19 does not appear to have any passive stealth features. Everything else was off to minimize his heat, RF, and whatever else they use for sensors profiles. Isamu was smirky because he was friends with Guld. And now that Guld was sane again, Guld wasn't trying to kill him. ... Or just because he was an established loon. Again, you're just doing some wishful thinking. Isamu had the superior position. Both of them know that when Guld finally noticed the YF-19's shadow. Wishful thinking? They SAID he turned everything off.

Too bad it only gets about 2 seconds of screentime, and it's fairly low-aulity animation for those 2 seconds.

Hence why a railgun isn't a feasable launch system, even for supply capsules. You need guidance systems.

I'd say thank you, but I'm ALREADY hiding. You have scarred my mind for life. And this is my cranny, find your own.

A ton of ANYTHING moving at mach 25 is going to pretty much obliterate the target. Penetration power is pretty much irrelevant. So, if you screw up on re-entry, you either burn up in a fireball, or you freeze when your shuttle skips off into the Big Black. Either way, it's a risky business, and having only 2 shuttle failures is actually indicative of the professionism at NASA. And we only lost one on re-entry. Sadly, that was due to the ostrich belief. If you ignore a problem, it doesn't go away. Just because foam never ripped a hole in the RCC panels before didn't mean it wasn't possible. It just took a while for it to hit right. It's not throwing a lot more issues up than before. It's just that the inherent flaws are becoming more visible after the CAIB review's scathing indictment of the entire NASA culture. They can't go back to just ignoring potential problems without getting roasted for it, particularly as administrator O'Keefe is VERY passionate about implementing ALL of the CAIB's recommendations, ESPECIALLY the ones that do more than fix the immediate problem. Apollo 1 burned because NASA was cutting too many corners in the development of their moon mission. Challenger burned because NASA was flying rockets in an environment they weren't spec'ed to fly in due to the risk of seal failure. Columbia burned because NASA was ignoring objects falling at high velocities towards heatshield panels that weren't spec'ed for impact resistance. Why risk a fourth crew to carelessness? The above is an oversimplification of events, but at its core is quite accurate. It was the logic of the CAIB in going beyond the technical reasons for the accident, and it was logic O'Keefe found very sound.

The very mention of this movie in any sort of serious discussion makes me cry. Brief rule of thumb: anything you saw in that movie may be discarded as absurd, comical, and impossible. More descriptive answer: Using heat to generate power as The Core depicted it is not possible. It may not have registered on you, but they had what is known as a perpetual motion machine. If it WAS possible, all of our energy problems would be gone with a single well-placed chunk of flubber in the mantle. A totally source of power that will last as long as the Earth. In reality, you CAN use heat to generate electrical energy, but you have to have a temperature differential, IE: a not-hot place. This doesn't exist during re-entry except inside the cabin, which you're trying NOT to heat up too badly. That makes it unallowed for this task, as you WILL transfer heat to the not-hot place in the process of generating current. Besides that, we have no form of energy shielding, be it a force field or just tje strength amplification technology depicted in The Core. Reactive armor is a quite simple affair. There's an explosive plate on the outside of the armor. When a projectile hits the armor, it blows up. Armor-piercing explosives use a carefully designed explosive(known as a shaped charge) to make a "blowtorch" focused on the armor. The explosion from the reactive armor plate disrupts the blowtorch and prevents it from burning through anything. Not enough power, in addition to the non-linear arguments in the above posts. Except that in your comparison, the moving van isn't an unguided projectile hurtling along at mach 25 when it needs to be maneuvered into orbit and around satellites. It's still an utterly immense power drain. We're talking a nuclear power plant dedicated SOLELY to lobbing projectiles at satellites(which the chinese would very likely use it for).

Depends who you ask. Majority opinion seems to be that the larger models are more reliable, though. (I wouldn't be surprised, given there's precious little room in the slimline for heatsinks or fans). 315843[/snapback] I have em both, they behave the same. I'd say the slim one is easier to drop or knock off of something as its light and small, that is why people think it isn't built as well. 316505[/snapback] Yah. I can see arguments either way, really. Long-term, the slimline should have a more reliable drive mech. One moving part to wear out instead of 3(raising/lowering the mech and opening/closing the tray are elminated, so you only have to worry about the laser tracking). But the older models should cool better. May be offset by more efficient chips, though. Less heat to start with. 316558[/snapback] yeah but who has these things long term... As soon as the PS3 comes out, I am going to can both my PS2s. 316591[/snapback] Me, for one. PS2 hasn't replaced the PS1 because, among other things, it isn't 100% compatible. There's slight glitches here and there, and exacerbations of other glitches, resulting in some game-crash issues. Are they uncommon? Sure. But they're there. And not everyone wants a PS3. Particularly if Kutaragi's ramblings about it being not affordable for households are accurate. 316684[/snapback] True...but a lot of people do ditch their systems when new ones appear. I used to keep them all but, I wound up with way too many... Who said everyone wanted a PS3? 316696[/snapback] A1 implied everyone with a PS2 is upgrading to PS3.

HAHA!

With all due respect, Isamu never even TOUCHED the Ghost. In other words, the Ghost didn't hit Isamu at all. The Ghost didn't hit EITHER of them. Guld, however, took off after the Ghost as soon as it made itself known, because in his estimation there was no way for Isamu to win. An accurate estimation as regardless of skill, Isamu wouldn't have been able to even manipulate his controls while doing the high-G maneuvers needed to keep up with the Ghost. Or even see the Ghost at all after his eyeballs popped. ... Actually, given the maneuvers that were being pulled, I suspect Isamu would have blacked out well before it became an issue. Only reason I can think of that Guld DIDN'T is that the zentradi are engineered to have higher G tolerances. So that's 2 non-skill reasons that Guld and Guld alone could beat the Ghost(BCS and superior genetics). Well... any zentradi or half-zentradi pilot in the BCS-equipped YF-21 that hadn't been brainwashed by Sharon could beat the Ghost. But there was only the one plane, and Guld had it. A. You've just said "Project Supernova was rigged to make the YF-19 win." There is no way whatsoever that Guld EVER would have gotten the job as a test pilot for the next-gen combat plane had he NOT been a pilot of comparable skill to Isamu. Well, more accurately, Isamu wouldn't have been chosen had he not been of comparable skill, because Guld was there first. This was intended to be a scientific test with as few variables as possible. That means closely matched pilot skill levels. B. How does the ability to concentrate while your body is LITERALLY tearing itself apart prove that you aren't a skilled combat pilot? This is the only statement that could remotely be construed that way. Only because Isamu killed his engines while deploying flares. Otherwise he would have been 17 kinds of dead. This will be important momentarily. Guld remembered something he had blocked, and realized he sucked as a person. He's allowed some self-pity. Note that he never took any part of his plane offline. Sensors were still running, and he was still at full capacity. Well, as full as he could be with no missiles and probably no bullets. A. The YF-21 sensors were wired directly into Guld's mind. As soon as anything showed up on them, he'd see it just as if he was staring straight at it. And it's implied that the YF-21 has 360-degree sensor coverage. Guld had an unparalleled iew of the sky. B. Isamu's YF-19 was OFF. He had no engines, no thrusters, no transformation capability. As soon as he brought it online, he'd be lit up like a christmas tree for Guld. And(assuming Guld still wanted to waste him) would be blown away before his systems were back online. Because Isamu turns his plane off in mid-dogfight, and Guld had mental problems. Right.

Oh, what's the word I'm looking for? "Shadenwawa?" ... No.

wow... that's mean all the successful mission were based on luck!?! 316588[/snapback] Precisely. Or from another PoV, the failure of the Columbia was due to luck. Foam doesn't USUALLY break off in such a way that it collides with the RCC panels. It was pr'ly a 1/1000 chance. And it just happened that the crew of the Columbia got a bad roll. 0 friction is impossible unless you're holding still. A drop "straight down" incurs MORE friction than an angled one, as you hit the denser parts of the atmosphere while going faster. And you burn up. As was stated above, it's simply not feasable to carry enough fuel up to bring you down at a lesisurely mach 2, slowing to near-0 as you hit the ground. ... Well, maybe if you were using Saturn Vs for orbital missions it'd be workable. But the Saturn V is the largest rocket ever made. And carries a similarly large price tag. On the upside, you can put a space station up in one flight instead of a dozen. Or send 3 guys to the moon.

Blame HG. They've fought to keep the Big West-licensed toys from Japan out of the US, without providing any real alternatives for much of it. Not even really fought, just threatened legal action against people that can't afford to be in a suit.

Depends who you ask. Majority opinion seems to be that the larger models are more reliable, though. (I wouldn't be surprised, given there's precious little room in the slimline for heatsinks or fans). 315843[/snapback] I have em both, they behave the same. I'd say the slim one is easier to drop or knock off of something as its light and small, that is why people think it isn't built as well. 316505[/snapback] Yah. I can see arguments either way, really. Long-term, the slimline should have a more reliable drive mech. One moving part to wear out instead of 3(raising/lowering the mech and opening/closing the tray are elminated, so you only have to worry about the laser tracking). But the older models should cool better. May be offset by more efficient chips, though. Less heat to start with. 316558[/snapback] yeah but who has these things long term... As soon as the PS3 comes out, I am going to can both my PS2s. 316591[/snapback] Me, for one. PS2 hasn't replaced the PS1 because, among other things, it isn't 100% compatible. There's slight glitches here and there, and exacerbations of other glitches, resulting in some game-crash issues. Are they uncommon? Sure. But they're there. And not everyone wants a PS3. Particularly if Kutaragi's ramblings about it being not affordable for households are accurate.

With all due respect, Isamu never even TOUCHED the Ghost. And Guld managed to kamikaze the ghost while his organs were being turned to jello by the intense g-forces of matching the maneuvers of a machine with no fleshy bits to damage. Just maintaining focus under those conditions would be near-impossible, much less fighting effectively. Guld managed to do both. As far as outlcassed and outpiloted... The way I recall things Guld was winning when they called a truce on Earth.

Depends who you ask. Majority opinion seems to be that the larger models are more reliable, though. (I wouldn't be surprised, given there's precious little room in the slimline for heatsinks or fans). 315843[/snapback] I have em both, they behave the same. I'd say the slim one is easier to drop or knock off of something as its light and small, that is why people think it isn't built as well. 316505[/snapback] Yah. I can see arguments either way, really. Long-term, the slimline should have a more reliable drive mech. One moving part to wear out instead of 3(raising/lowering the mech and opening/closing the tray are elminated, so you only have to worry about the laser tracking). But the older models should cool better. May be offset by more efficient chips, though. Less heat to start with.

rockets require MASSIVE amounts of fuel- getting into orbit is always going to require a lot of energy- doing it electrically may very well be safer than using explosive chemicals. Its easier to generate a flaming explosion than electricity, though. And I don't believe railguns are really very efficient devices(may be mistaken). That's an interesting point- one I'd not really thought about when thinking of rail-based launch systems. that sounds like a surmountable problem though. It may be surmountable. But you add a lot of mass for the EM shielding. Which in turn adds a lot of energy needed for an already power-hungry system. :'(

Maybe they're doing it that way on purpose? Trying to set a standard? It would be a pretty low tactic, could it be possible? 315622[/snapback] Quite likely, actually. A lot of people in the position to make the laws haven't quite gotten over the "games are for kids" attitude. Of course, the fact that the ratrings board is complaining about it indicates that at least some of them rcognize the fact. 315630[/snapback] For the record, the original Phantasmagoria by Sierra was banned outright from ever entering here (Australia) due to content. Duke Nukem 3D was withheld until the "adult" content was put behind a block that adults could access by paying money and getting a "code". GTA 3 was on sale here for 6 months until it's classification was revoked, and it was banned from sale until the game removed the visuals for whenever you recieved health from prositutues. Once that was done, it was re-released with MA-15+ however the content was still in the game.. you just had to unlock it with a code. What I'm reading says Duke Nukem was originally submitted with "adult mode" totally disabled, and there were hacks made to re-enable it. The publisher later submitted and got an unaltered version rated. And GTA3 was actually put out on shelves before it was rated. Take2 ASSUMED that it would get the same rating as GTA and GTA2, so when it was banned, they were left in deep poo. So that's the latest update on that, I suppose

Millia IS sexy. You're just a xenophobe.

Aww, c'mon. Bootleg translations are fun.

Why anyone would nominate a black rectangular prism with a red dot on the side for a "babe" of any sort is beyond me. Unless... YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE CD! SHE BRAINWASHED YOU!