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I used to think this, but when you realise that because of its existance it has killed any chance of fans getting to like the original due to not knowing anything about them, it kinda steals all the fanfare from the original creators. (it doesn't help that from now on toys relating to macross won't be available locally unless as "robotech toys" due to the legal problems. And there are no credits for them in the robotech outro are there?) I thought the first parenthetical note had more to do with the animosity than that it overshadowed the original. As far as I know, the Robotech hatred didn't REALLY kick in until HG declared war on the fanbase and started blocking merchandise. But you're right about the second parenthetical note. Original creators get no mention in the RT credits. As I understood it, it needed that many episodes for SYNDICATED release. HG could have just signed the single program to a network for saturday morning runs, but for the widespread 5-days-a-week-on-every-channel setup, they needed more eps. And even then, they could've done a faithful release, and had the 3 seperate universes under the Robotech label. Particulary as HG has made signifigant effort to minimize exposure to the originals. A lot of people think it IS a Robotech sequel.

The announcement killed them. They immediatly sank into the earth, spun around 3 times, and rose as enraged undead marauders with glowing red eyes. 323423[/snapback] Regular Zombies or some sort of Cyber Zombies 323427[/snapback] Cyber-zombies. Hyper-intelligent cyber-zombies. 323434[/snapback] No, they didn't come back as zombies, they returned as Dracula Bus: Bus of the Undead! Not mutualy exclusive. I've now got this image in my head of japanese cyborg zombies transforming and docking together to make a vampire bus. Damn you. Damn you to Wisconsin.

I knew about that, actually. I don't see how this connects to FAN-MADE MUSIC VIDEOS.

The announcement killed them. They immediatly sank into the earth, spun around 3 times, and rose as enraged undead marauders with glowing red eyes. 323423[/snapback] Regular Zombies or some sort of Cyber Zombies 323427[/snapback] Cyber-zombies. Hyper-intelligent cyber-zombies. 323434[/snapback] Well that explains the glowing eyes then. I bet one has tank treads man that would be wicked sweet. 323438[/snapback] Miyatake does. Kawamori has a plasma cannon on his left arm.

I'm inclined to agree with this statement. Most of the Macross AMVs I've seen (this is back in the day though) were unoriginal and kinda dull. They all used M+ and all had that same theme (fighters and planes). The first was okay, then when all of them started to look the same..... 323351[/snapback] I was thinking the other direction. People think Top Gun misic has to have jets, and MacPlus has the best jets. 323420[/snapback] I wasn't referring to Top Gun music with M+ footage, just Macross AMVs in general. I have yet to find a decent Macross AMV...but I stopped looking years ago. 323435[/snapback] Either way, though, itl's a lack of imagination. Be it Top Gun AMVs or Macross AMVs.

He got clipped after he told Max to leave. Millia was right behind him all the way, without wingmen. Roy had his attention drawn away and 3 Q-Raus appeared and shot at him. Millia stuck with Max all the way. 323436[/snapback] My mistake.

The announcement killed them. They immediatly sank into the earth, spun around 3 times, and rose as enraged undead marauders with glowing red eyes. 323423[/snapback] Regular Zombies or some sort of Cyber Zombies 323427[/snapback] Cyber-zombies. Hyper-intelligent cyber-zombies.

Get an IBM clone? Seriously, I don't know the state of Mac PS emulation. IMG is a standard format, though. I'd try it first. After that, I'd look for an image converter(had to do this for my IBM-clone stuff a time or 2). Shouldn't be too hard to find.

That seems reasonable. They WERE insturmental in getting it produced, but DO acknowledge that it wasn't their creation.

The announcement killed them. They immediatly sank into the earth, spun around 3 times, and rose as enraged undead marauders with glowing red eyes.

I'm inclined to agree with this statement. Most of the Macross AMVs I've seen (this is back in the day though) were unoriginal and kinda dull. They all used M+ and all had that same theme (fighters and planes). The first was okay, then when all of them started to look the same..... 323351[/snapback] I was thinking the other direction. People think Top Gun misic has to have jets, and MacPlus has the best jets.

Source: Fans who don't remember the show that much. Roy was actually shot by squad of Q-Raus. And ONE of those QRaus was Millia. From there Milia had to have fired the fatal shot, because only the best zentradi pilot could hit the most-experienced human pilot. It's silly, of course. Even in TV people don't have an aura that repels bullets shot by someone of lesser skill. 318124[/snapback] In the show, Miriya was fighting Max, and some random Q-Rau got Roy. 323317[/snapback] We don't know when Focker got clipped. He could've taken a stray round from the Millia/Max duel, or before Max was singled out as the interesting one, or any # of things.

Damn, she lost her 1J? Might actually have to try out 7 after all. Which episode? Maybe not though. Dunno if it's worth it... 323196[/snapback] Dun recall which ep. But Millia brought her 1J along with the colony mission. And used it a few times in the defense of the city. Thus it pops up in a few episodes. If I recall, she was injured, and Gamlin borrowed her 1J during an attack because it was the only fighter he could get to. And then got it blown up in the same episode, after bitching about how slow and unresponsive it was. I DO recommend watching Macross 7. There's some interesting plot elements in it, even if it DOES implode into a flaming mass of suck in the last few episodes in my opinion. In teh interest of completeness, it should be mentioned that other opinions are it all comes together in the last few episodes, and that it implodes into a flaming mass of suck instantly upon starting. The latter opinion is held VERY strongly by some people, who will no doubt elaborate on it later in this thread.

Actually, it's Kinryu's VF-17S (up to that point, Gamlin only had a VF-17D). At the time, Kinryu was laid up in the hospital, making his VF-17S perfect pickings for Milia's machinations. 323176[/snapback] My mistake. I remembered Gamlin getting upset about it, and just connected it in my head that it was because she "stole his plane." Related note: Millia = the hotness.

Funny, when I was playing StarCraft I kept thinking "these guys have definately played Warhammer 40,000." 323133[/snapback] When I was playing Battlezone PC, I was thinking "These guys are actively trying to rip Starcraft off. But this is a lot more fun."

She kind of ... re-appropriated... Gamlin's VF-17 after he got her 1J blowed up.

Which is why you rarely see "faithful" video game movies. A faithful Legend of Zelda movie would go something like this... A young man dressed in green steps into a cave. We grant the cinematographers license to extend the cave transition, so we can see him walking through the cave as the opening credits roll, feeling his way along the rough cave walls with a dim torch to guide him. As the credits finish, he comes to the end of the tunnel, which opens into a large room. An elderly person hands the young man a sword, says "take this. It will help you on your way." and the Zelda logo comes on screen. ... Followed by 2 hours of meaningless hack&slash.

Speaking about MAW and folding wings, it might interest you to know that the XB-70, yes the plane that inspired or partly inspired the creator of macross to to make one of our most fav animes, has a folding wing design. Check it out: http://www.vectorsite.net/avxb70.html I'm thinking this concept also inspired that scene in macross zero where guld fly the yf-21 directly towards the missles. IIRC the wings folded downward similar to the xb-70. Yah. YF-21 had the angle-able wings. Too bad the XB-70 didn't have the flexi-surfaces too. The XB-70 inspired who to make which anime? 323008[/snapback] Not inspired to make teh show, rather the name of the star mech. Hint: XB70 Valkyrie.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_.../vf1/index.html 322952[/snapback] Note that there's both a VF-1X AND a VF-X-1 on the VF-1 page. Don't get them mixed up. Just trying to head off confusion.

I would consider come entries in the Metal Gear series to be superior to most of what Hollywood turns out, and Konami deserves a lot of praise for maintaining the level of quality that they have.

0, not O. What did I say? Funny after all these years I thought it was O not 0 322899[/snapback] Common mistake. I only drag it out A. in good clean fun(see now. Well, it was funny to me, anyways...), or B. to annoy someone I have no respect for. Practice goes back to my first e-mail account. change I have a rather strong stubborn streak, so I wasn't going to be me#1245315 or whatever. And I sure wasn't changing my chosen name to bypass the issue. I pinned a 0 on the end so I could cut to the front of the line and skip ahead of me#1. ... And discovered names with a 0 on the end are rarely taken. So it's become a sort of dummy character for me. If my chosen name is taken, or too short(a common problem with JB. Stupid 3-character minimum name requirements... or is it stupid me for picking that as a regularly-used screen name?), I pin on a zero.

0, not O. Sure.... rationalize all you want.

Actually, if I recall, that was how the original Wright plane maneuvered.

If you ike Minmay's singing, watch it. Other than that, it's got some pretty visuals. There's nothing actually ADDED to the story beyond what we saw in the final episode of the TV series.

Both of which are fine systems. The VB in particular is a system that desreves far more respect than it gets. 322668[/snapback] Gimmicky doesn't mean horrid. But neither are genius. The VB hurt my eyes though. 322672[/snapback] I'm quite a fan of the VB. IMO it's early demise was one of gaming's great losses. Having said that, the screen DOES have a nasty refresh problem. It's an active display like a CRT instead of a passive one like an LCD. The pixels are directly created by light(in this case from LEDs, in a CRT's case from phosphors being struck by electrons. </tech-lesson>). Because of this, there's a "flicker" between frames. And the VB is at a 50Hz refresh, which any european can tell you sucks, even on a "slow" display like a TV screen. On a faster-responding display, you can usually see the flicker at 60Hz(the official minimum for flicker-free vision). The VB is one of those faster displays, as the LEDs used are only illuminating a given pixel for a fraction of the screen time(it uses a single column of LEDs and a vibrating mirror to change what part of the image they're pointed at, resulting in very brief pixel illuminations. CRT phosphors have a "sustain" so the brightness drops off relatively slowly, but VB pixels are instantly black when the mirror moves on.). The problem can be minimized by reducing the brightness, for reasons I don't know(I'm a techie. I know hardware, not biology.). But personal experience says it works. Another problem(not directly related to the tech used) was the depth of the display. Too deep of an image can cause headaches, which is why most of the software offers brightness AND depth controls. The VB is unique in that the display HAS to be adjusted for a comfortable play experience, whereas most other systems require little to no adjustment of the display. But when properly tuned it has the most immersive gameplay around, even if it is monochrome. It's one of the very few systems to ever offer true 3D graphics as opposed to a 3D illusion on a 2D display, and is the only one to create a totally immersive environment for it(the Jaguar 3D goggles never making it out as far as I know). The fact that it died so fast was very disappointing, as it never even got all of it's 1st-generation software out, much less the 2nd- and 3rd-gen stuff. Mario Clash, Vertical Force, and WarioLand are nice uses of the tech, but I don't really think any of them are system-sellers. Red Alarm, for all its praise, is a tech demo that is plagued with too many problems to be considered a finished game, IMO.