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Oooh, just wait. 367309[/snapback] Exactly what I was thinking... *dons asbestos suit* I've got spares. First come, first serve.

He's 16 at start. I think he'd be 19 at the end. Maybe 18, depending on when his birthday lands(current timeline lists the Macross' launch in February, so 19 is mroe likely). And the assumption that he's actively trying to get laid is a fairly large one since, as you observed, he's a "nice guy."

Don't forget his other redeeming quality. His love for good booze. 367164[/snapback] Ah, right. How COULD I forget that part?

Oooookay then... Only part of that I even feel safe toching is Kamjin. He didn't really ahve a lot of character to develop. He was a loon, plain and simple. He defolded into aliied fleets and made bets on how many ships he'd hit, he shot his own men just for kicks, and the only redeeming quality he had was that he was good at killing.

Kaifun was always an interesting character. He was an anti war new wave hippy but he probably would have made a good combat pilot. Good reflexes, good coordination, etc. Its definitely against type. Ever notice how its only the fat old droopy chicks who protest that the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue is degrading to women. Its always humorous that the women protesting the hardest are the ones you'd least likely want to hump while sober. Kaifun being anti war is like Jessica Alba denouncing the SI Swimsuit issue in public. One of the nice things about the McKinney books, is Kaifun actually becomes a skilled combat pilot while shadowing Minmei and his view of the war and the military change. [Except Sentinels sucked regardless of who was writing it. I'm not sure about forcing him into it by killing his parents. Pretty out of character, as he'd've more likely blamed the UN forces for antagonizing the Zentradi. Besides, it didn't work the first time. Remember, the world thought South Ataria Island was destroyed by anti-UN actions, not an assault by alien forces and subsequent space fold accident. He could've joined the UN forces to smack down the anti-UN and avenge his parents. Interestingly, I think that WAS the backstory for Shin in MacZero, though. AntiUN killed his family, so he signed on for vengeance. But I thought Kaifun's character really went down the crapper in the post-war arc, so ANYTHING would have been an improvement. And actually, the fighter pilot wasn't too much of a stretch. Running through things... He was an idealist initially. He was sure that there was always a peaceful solution, and the military just made it easier to use force than work things out. He seemed to have been coming to grips with his excessive idealism towards the end. He didn't rant about how they shouldn't attack the zentradi fleet when news of the impending doom came through, just expressed his belief that they couldn't win. Heck, he even took part in the psych warfare aspect of the final battle. Kaifun actively participated in a military offensive. He seemed to have accepted that sometimes the other side doesn't really want to talk and you just have to shoot back. From there... as you noted, Kaifun was a skilled martial artist. While he hadn't taken it with the intent of fighting, it indicates he'd probably fit right in with more modern combat training. He might not quite have the military mindset, but the situation aboard the Macross was such that they'd take what they could get. Hikaru had more or less the same character development, he just never ran around protesting. But he got smacked into it beause he saw the devastation first-hand during the first transformation. Kaifun didn't really see it until Kamjin invaded the city much later, and that was immediatly before the war ended. Even then, he probably would've blamed the military if it hadn't been for the other things happening around then. There was Max and Millia's wedding with Global's big warm fuzzy speech, the zentradi defectors, Kamjin's attempt to mow down the defectors, and the negotiations with Britai's fleet(and Exedol's lessons on zentradi society and history). I suspect all that had a lot to do with Kaifun's acceptance of the need for at least defensive military actions. After the war, he was just throwing anti-military rhetoric out there to stir up trouble. And took up drinking. It was probably a response to the raw devastation the war had unleashed(it'd be hard to take that much damage in rationally), but it wasn't handled very well.

Just thinking, but... any attempt at moving in would be delayed a bit, as they were both rather laid back about the whole thing at first. And they had enough spikes of hope(the discovery of water being the first big one) that they sustained their optimism a lot longer than they had any right to. It took 'em a week or so(I'd have to watch to see how long) to decide that there wasn't an easy way out and a search party wasn't going to find them. Essentially they realized it was less like being lost on a ship and more like being stranded in a desert. That's when the situation would really start chipping away at their normal behaviors and ways of thinking. Towards the end, Minmay was in pretty bad shape. She was cracking FAST. Hikaru was holding up better, probably because his life as a stunt pilot left him remarkably aware of his mortality for someone his age, though he was also a bit more realistic. He'd been keeping track of their resources and efforts, and already noticed tehir rapidly dwindling options. Reality had settled in on him gradually and he'd had a chance to come to grips with it. Things hit Minmay all at once("Well, that didn't work, but we can still get out some other way. What? We can't? We've already used up all our options? And we're outta food?!?!?!?! I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE!!!!!!"). His biggest mental burden was the cute girl trying to convince him to jump out an airlock. Had they been less positive about the entire situation in the first place, or been down there a little longer(given Minmay's state of mind, it may've not even been a day), things would've taken a MUCH diffrent turn.

Compendium says they were in the incomplete Grand Cannons. Presumably they were pushed into use as shelters for nearby people when the zentradi fleet defolded. As they weren't complete, they didn't fire, and didn't suffer the same fate as the completed Alaskan cannon.

*sighs* Everyone knows you hate Macross 7. Everyone also knows you lack the self-control to not share this opinion every time you see a seven. Can you at least WAIT until that numeral shows up before you start ranting, though? And my on-topic to off-topic ratio is rather high. My on-topic to A1-reference ratio is higher still. My on-topic to "actively disrupting any attempt at real discussion of damn near anything other than my own biceps " ratio is positively ASTRONOMICAL.

If I ever find you in a dark alley, you ARE going to care. 366764[/snapback] And lo, did A1 announce his intention to rape Keith in a raw display of unrestrained homosexuality. 366777[/snapback] Hey, don't sell your self short, I am gonna rape you too. But as both you and Keith are girls, this doesn't make me gay. 366778[/snapback] I thought I was a guy...*checks* Yup, all the bits are still there.

If I ever find you in a dark alley, you ARE going to care. 366764[/snapback] And lo, did A1 announce his intention to rape Keith in a raw display of unrestrained homosexuality.

Hey, I don't know about you, but I happen to be the real-world inspiration for Focker! Anyways, Hikaru probably DID have a good chance with Minmay when they were stranded in the ship's guts. Remember, she wans't an up-and-coming celebrity. As far as anyone was concerned, any chance she'd had died with the alien attack and fold accident. She was just a girl with a pretty voice. And they weren't exactly just taking a walk. They were stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no hope of rescue. 2 weeks trapped with just one other person, and knowing everyone thinks you're dead tends to alter your usual thought process a bit. At the end, she was advocating a double suicide. Very Juliet. The fact that nothing happened DOES say a lot about Hikaru's character. He was either too noble and good-natured to take advanage of the situation, or more likely he just wasn't sure how to deal with girls.

ARGH! It's bad enough that it's impossible to HAVE a Macross 7 thread without you dragging it into other threads. You aren't doing anyone a service with this absurd obsession.

Flashback is pure fluff. There is NO content in it. At ALL. It's PRETTY fluff in places, but... I don't hate it, but I don't particularly like it either. And if you look, the vast majority of the anti-Mac7 posts are the same handful of people, over and over again. The polls that have been started show it as having a LOT less hatred than thread content would indicate.

But not for long... Mmmm... 's a beautiful piece of hardware. Goes with that case really well, too.

I watched the fansubs, so I knew what was going on. My opinion: It's got a lot of potential, but it's never fully realized. And it goes all to hell in the last couple of episodes.

Eh, we all gotta bite it sometime... HAHAHA!!!! DIGIMON! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-*bang*

Dude, this is the best thread on the board. I agree. And now I don't.

Mmmm... I like seeing sprite/tile games in general on modern systems. They just have so much more raw power than the older ones in every respect. The Saturn was the last great sprite powerhouse in that it had signifigant work on the 2D graphics hardware, but the Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube, and XBox are all at least as capable as the Saturn was, even with a smaller feature set and less optimization. And modern poly hardware is at the point where it can be used in combination with the sprites and tiles without a major quality variation being visible(see Viewtiful Joe for a modern sample. Try Xenogears or Strider 2 on the PS1 for an older example.).

It depends on what you're doing. It's also good for getting things quiet, notably. Anyways, run an electrically neutral substance through your liquid-cooling rig and don't worry about it. Some people do stuff like immerse their PC components in motor oil. I do not advocate going near this far, and think it's stupid. But most of the off-the-shelf water cooling components assume something with a viscosity of, well, water. So you're limited in your choice of fluids. Early Dreamcasts are DEBATABLY liquid-cooled. They use heat-pipes to move heat between the base on the components and the heatsink fins. Heatpipe coolers are usually filed as air cooling, though it's a gray area. Later Dreamcasts got rid of the heatpipe assembly and went with traditional heatsinks with fans on top of them, presumably as a cost-cutting measure(though Sega MAY have had trouble with supply). This makes 1st-run DCs far quieter, if for no other reason than there's 1 fan instead of 3. They also tend to run cooler, as most of the heat is at the exhaust fan instead of in a case that wasn't designed for the cooling solution in it.

Possibly. But food is going to be one of the scarcest resources around. You can drill for oil. You can mine for metal, or salvage it from crashed derelicts. You can train operators. But food has to be grown. That's somewhat traditional. Human society typically balks at the idea of putting women in combat positions. I suspect polygamy wouldn't be encouraged, but wouldn't be so strongly discouraged either. Nor would children outside of marriage. They pointed out a few times in the TV series that recruitment and promotion requirements on the Macross seemed to consists mainly of being alive. Watching Hikaru's team form shows that in action. We know Max has bad vision. Traditionally, that's an automatic disqualification for fighter pilots. Hikaru was of the opinion that both of them were somewhat new to be assigned to a combat team. Roy pointed out that they weren't much less experienced than Hikaru(Hikaru's civilian piloting experience shouldn't count as a mitigating factor for space combat). So Hikaru was promoted fast. Though he DID get his promotion due to the rescue of Misa from the Mars Base reactor overload, he only got the rescue mission in the first place because he was still squeamish about killing. Max was also promoted very rapidly, even though he was little more than a raw recruit, and both he and Hikaru felt it was too fast and that Max's subordinantes were way too inexperienced to be flying yet. I think at that point they explicitly stated that they were just stuffing people into planes as fast as possible. And Millia got a fighter with minimal formal training and no consideration for her background. Though this was liklely a political move as much as anything else. Max and Millia were hot stuff from a political standpoint, and Global was gonna make darn sure that if she wanted to fight alongside her husband she was going to get to, just as he made sure that every resource on the ship was spent making their wedding as big an event as possible. They weren't just a guy and a girl, they were 2 of the most accomplished warriors on each side's force and a symbol of human-zentradi peace. As for that affecting the gene pool post-war... well, on the Macross' side of the populace, you had 40,000 civilians and 20,000 military people at the end. Of the 20k military heads, only a fraction were in the thick of things(there were a little over 300 VF-1s at the end of the war, and a little under 600 destroids). Most of them were bridge crew, technicians, engineers, shield operators, and miscellaneous support roles. These are scattered all over the ship. Bridge crew and personnel near the core would fare best. The things that would most affect civilian survival aboard the Macross(they lost 18k of 'em), given the city's location near the ship's skin and in the middle of the transformation-affected region, would be distance from the exterior at attack start, proximity to a shelter at attack start, and the good sense to head for cover in a timely manner instead of wandering the streets. That and volunteering for military service, which was probably one of the fastest ways to die(unless you were in the wrong place during a transformation). So at best, there was breeding for precognition. Lacking evidence of psychic powers in the Macross universe, we'll call this as no genetic selection. Worst is breeding for cowardice and submissiveness, as your best chance for survival is to not join the military, and do what the military says when they say to. Except UN Spacey, not the Zentradi, were in charge of the cloning program. And the grunt zentradi aren't bred for long lifespans, and none are made for rapid reproduction. I think the zentradi have a caste system, with diffrent "breeds" assigned diffrent roles. This limits the degree that any one person can rise in the ranks(though if you can snapshot the brain and reflash it, it could be possible that your next body would be in a higher caste than your currrent one). The grunts are designed for killing. Cannon-fodder zentradi genetics would favor agressiveness, reflexes, subservience, and short-term durability. Long-term survival, independence, and intelligence would be more useful attributes for higher-ranking figures, as it increases the amount of experience a commander can have, as well as their strategic value. Excess agressiveness is just going to result in commanders jumping the gun and launching badly-planned assaults, and inbred subservience will result in excessive calls home for orders. And once you get to the archivists, like Exedol, memory is their most valuable asset. They need to remember a lot, and be able to recall it instantly. Exedol also served as an advisor, so they need to speak up when they have something to say instead of waiting for their superior to ask. Longevity would also be supremely useful here, as it increases experience. This all assumes limited mental transplant capacity. If they can take a perfect snapshot of a zentradi brain at will, and implant it similarly well, longevity is utterly useless. Retuning the genetic mix isn't worth considering, as there's no evidence the zentradi posess the technology to create new revisions, nor that humanity has generated it independently.

Heh heh... next time, myk. Mmm... liquid nitrogen cooled... 364642[/snapback] I'd like one of those too. I'd settle for somethign like this, though... http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=63 (unfortunately, the suopplied waterblock in that kit comes with a poor clip, and that's believed to be the primary cause of somewhat unimpressive performance)

It'd screw up all the games that use the 2 screens as one extra-large playfield. Speakers are also better in the top than the bottom. And some PDA functionality too? Acutally, a bit of SRAM and some basic PDA utilities WOULD be nice.

Such is the power of our favorite Governator worshipper.

Smaller: Good to a degree. It's 5.25" wide, which is just a hair narrower than the original GBA. Still comfortably large. Lighter: Good in everything but lightguns. This isn't a lightgun. Rearranged features: THEY MOVED THE MOTHERSNIFFING PAUSE KEY! DAMMIT! PUT IT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS!

I'll admit that you have a hot mom too. Although, admittedly I usually only see her from behind. 364553[/snapback] Dude, she is a beautiful woman, but she is also 70, so thats kinda nasty... Especially since you are like what, 20? 364583[/snapback] Older women, make beautiful lovers Older women, they understand I've been around some, and I have discovered That older women know just how to please a man.