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If Konami makes Macross Gear, I will give them my first, second, and third-born. Poltical incorrectness is always a fine goal to shoot for.

I never really counted Jurassic Park as a horror movie, either. You make some good arguments, though. How about we file it in a hybrid action-horror genre? I still think it's easily filed as action, but it DOES have more horror elements than I was initially giving it credit for.

A fan-made logo, but neat nonetheless. 395554[/snapback] I LOVE IT!

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I was just saying... moveigoers WILL accept a film with superhuman stunts. The specific speed or "feel" wasn't really factored into that statement. Yeah. Immediatly post-Matrix, it was REALLY bad. If there'd been a 3 Stooges movie made in that time frame, I GUARANTEE that someone would've done a slow-mo camera-spin pie in the face. Fortunately, that trend slacked off fairly fast. That's a matter of personal perspective. Me? I get more worked up about spaceships coasting to a stop than people running along walls. ... Actually, I think I pissed some people off in the theater once. Was watching The Core, and I kept bursting into laughter at totally inappropriate times because it was just so blatantly WRONG. Well, if we're gonna ding the movies for adding stuff that isn't in the game, we can throw out the entire script of every video game movie ever. Yeah... I think they were on the tail-end of the bullet-time trend.

That's what DYRL says. I'm not sure that's in SDF:M. This is something that should have been clarified in Mac Zero but I don't think it was. It's what the official chronology says. http://macross.anime.net/story/chronology/...0000/index.html PC 2870 A Protoculture survey ship stops temporarily on "Earth." By genetically reconstructing the native life, it plots the emergence of a sub-Protoculture adapted to the planetary enivronment, "Humankind," to prepare for future colonization. During its return to its home planet, the survey ship is destroyed by military ships opposed to the Stellar Republic. Records of Earth and Humankind are eventually lost. [PC 2900] That's the Robotech talking. 395141[/snapback] Lets not go there. If not for Robtoech few of us would even know about Macross. 395469[/snapback] So? It's still a plot element added by Robotech that wasn't present at any point in Macross, nor even hinted at in the official backstory.

I would argue that aliens is still horror, but unlike the first which was horror/science fiction, this was horror/science fiction/war. I still consider aliens a horror movie but close to a war movie in that people died, there was no glorifying of death or a "hero". Action to me suggests "stunts". When I think action: I think rambo, diehard, and commando and terminator 2. Action to me suggests lost of gunplay OR stunts. Aliens had lots of gunplay. That'd just be Hollywood drivel. It's quite possible to do an action movie without ripping off Jackie Chan and The Matrix. I clearly use a broader definition of action. I'm still not seeing anything that prevents it from being an action movie, though I AM seeing stuff that prevents it from being a generic drivel action movie. I seem to recall Ripley running into the alien hive alone to rescue Newt, unloading a machine gun, grenade launcher, AND flamethrower into the queen's nursery, then attacking the queen with a forklift and shoving a blowtorch in it's face before throwing it out an airlock. Maybe we watched diffrent versions.

The DS name WAS presented as a dev name for a while. It may not've been the FIRST dev name, but it was A dev name.

I thought it meant ADV was good friends with HG. If I recall, Animeigo was explicitly denied an extension of their sublicense, which is a fairly good indication of favoritism. ... That or I'm just scraping some debris off the rumor mill again.

Too hot for TV.

I want to see ONE ad with someone yellinh "Wii" as they go down a roller coaster. That will redeem this entire naming fiasco.

"Mister Facehugger, did you in fact rape Miss Ripley's face?" "SKREE!!!!!" "No further questions, your honor."

IMHO Nemesis had the perfect opportunity to spotlight the Romulans. They could have brought back Tomalok and Sela but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. 395313[/snapback] And Spock, for retro-nostalgia factor. He's on Romulus working towards Romulan/Vulcan reunification last anyone heard. But yeah... Nemesis was a double-letdown. Not only was it a bad Trek movie, but it was a bad romulan story. O NOES TEH PICARD CLOEN TAHT LOOKS NUTHING LIEK PICARD AM GUNNA THEEF TEH REEL PICARD'S BLUUD!1111 N DATA DIEZ, BUT ITZ OKAY HE HAZ TEH TWIN!111

I muist've missed those parts. I only remember the steaming angst. Citing the GitS movie as a positive example is a lousy way to make a point. The Matrix did well enough. I thought it was because the people that did the movie just didn't care. There were so many OTHER things wrong with that movie that whether or not Guile threw a sonic boom was totally irrelevant.

It seems as long as Kawamori is in control, he never wants to do what Sunrise does to Gundam (i.e. throw the same situation out every season). Thank goodness. It's more than laziness. The guys calling the shots don't know WHY the successful stories are successful. As far as the suits can tell, it's just another movie/TV show/cartoon/game/whatever. So when something succeeds, they don't ask "What is it that made this good?" Instead, they try to copy the entire thing and use it as a generic formula to stuff other characters into. And then when they miss the important parts and their formulaic drivel fails, they conclude that the whole concept was just a fad that ran it's course. You can see this happening in US cinema now. Everyone's obsessed with polygon animation. Toy Story, Shrek, and company did amazingly well. And the people calling the shots concluded it was because they were CG, and proceeded to flood the market with bad CG movies. They can't figure out why they aren't seeing the success that Pixar and Dreamworks have, and I think we're approaching the end stage, where they conclude the fad has run it's course. Depends on how well Pixar does now that they're owned by Disney. (interesting trivia: Pixar WANTED to do The Incredibles in a style similar to the modern Batman cartoons. Disney vetoed it because they were sure they needed the CG look) There's also another kind of formulizing. It goes in the opposite direction, with similar results. They aren't sure why a story was successful, as with formula 1. So when they do the sequel/remake they take the characters and stuff them into an existing formula. Aliens is a good example. It was a fun movie, but they forced the original Alien premise into a standard sci-fi action formula, even though the original was a horror movie, because that was what was cool at the time.

Thread summary: Harmony Gold lies. Harmony Gold also sucks. Robotech sucks too. And amazingly, water is wet.

They didn't cover it. They DID have romulans, though.

A man can dream, can't he? ... Better yet... A man can buy some stencils and paint, can't he? Mmm... same here, with luck.

I'm surprised they don't call it the "sniper rifle." Try VF. That's what I use. As for what I'd change about my favorite VF... The YF-21 would have won Project Supernova, BDS and all.

You mean like Gundam Wing? Hell, people were complaining about how bad Gundam Seed Destiny was WHILE they were watching it. "Man, Destiny sure sucks. This is the worst show I've ever watched. ALL RIGHT! A NEW EPISODE IS OUT! " Just because a show is poorly written doesn't mean it won't do well.

I was sort of skimming, and saw someone say that they SHOULD stumble upon us again. It was just sort of baffling. Sorry. That's backwards. Humanity was a result of genetic engineering by a survey ship that was destroyed on the way back by the Supervision Army. The PC is the source of the human genome, and the PC didn't even know we were here. That's the Robotech talking.

Katana was the final Dreamcast codename. I believe the Saturn developed under Saturn, based on Sega's prior history. Neptune was, if I recall, a Genesis with an integrated 32x. 32x was Mars. The DS was... DS. Why Nintendo KEPT this dev name and abandoned Revolution is beyond me. I hope the final Wii logo uses the classic 1-player and 2-player logos from the old arcade games. Given the name is officially intended to emphasize the multiplayer aspect, it'd make sense.

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Compendium says there's 1-2k Fullbtz-Berentzes. That implies 1-2k fleets of similar size, as the FB has a large sum of "carrier" space in it.

The big galaxy comments... you poeple don't grasp EXACTLY how big the galaxy is. There's estimated to be over 400 BILLION stars in the Milky Way. Even if only one in a thousand stars has planets, and only one in a thousand has habitable planets, they could visit a solar system a day and it would take them almost a half-million years to hit everywhere. Given the Supervision Army moves around, the 1/1000 estimate is ridiculously conservative, there's a lot of interstellar facilities to hit too(like factory satellites), a good solar system search should take more than a day, and we're out in the ass-end of nowhere from a Protoculture PoV, the odds of anyone stumbling onto us through blind chance are absurdly low, and the odds of it happening TWICE are essentially zero. It's amazing the Supervision Army ship defolded within a hundred light years of us, much less close enough to hit Earth immediatly afterwards. It's really the most absurd story feature in the entire series, and it's accepted blindly without question.