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Actually, it was basically a last-year game. It was the same year the PS2 launched. The PS1 had analog control from day 1 for anybody willing to pay for it. The original Dual Analog flightsticks were pricey, but supported by many games(inmcluding VF-X). The Dual Analog gamepad was a joke that was only out for a few months before the now-famous DualShock replaced it. On the upside, the Dual Analog gamepad was backwards-compatible with the flightsticks, while the DualShock wasn't. Neither was compatible with Namco's NegCon("steering wheel" mode on various 3rd-party controllers). Most of Macross 7 GBC DOES go the Gamlin route. Even the Fire Bomber pilots blow crap up. Only bosses have a musical flair, and it's optional for all but the final. Unless they're disembodied heads in a jar, of course... (was never a fan of DYRL-style Bodolza) Seriously, the protodeviln WORK as scrolling shooter bosses, which is mildly amazing given the franchise. But it takes greater levels of focus than I can muster to do the proto-DDR button mashing of a Sound Force boss fight and dodge bullets at the same time, so I always go with a non-musician for boss fights. ... Which really hurts when they force Basara on me for the final boss, AND hit me with both the most elaborate music and the largest amount of firepower to dodge while trying to play it.

You haven't seen the carnage mentioning Macross 7 has caused in the past.

It did, actually. As far as stuff worth playing, there's a moderately fun GBColor sidescroller. Boss battles with Sound Force pilots are a batty, though(I'm no good at rhythm games, which is what they are if you're playing a Sound Force pilot when you reach the boss), and the final boss forces the deployment of Basara. Rather good music for the GBColor, as a side note. Not too surprising, given the license, but still worth mentioning. And the only DYRL games anyone cares about(arcade and PS/Saturn) were made about a decade after DYRL's release.

Which begs the question -- what posessed them to decide they needed a slum added on? 416290[/snapback] Cover, presumably. Who'd think a rockstar with a state-of-the-art VF-19 in the ghetto? Much less a ghetto they didn't even know was there(they DO state that it was an undocumented addition to City 7, so it's not on the maps). Obviously, anyone with half a brain would question why there was bombed-out rubble on a colony ship, but they still wouldn't think "Hey, I bet there's a cutting-edge fighter parked in here!"

No, they clearly show the hole close immediatly behind Britai. Besides which, the room would have decompressed completely if the hole wasn't sealed. The zentradi's ability to speak in the room proves it had air, and thus was sealed. Max re-enters the ship through a diffrent hole, or more likely an airlock.

What do you think happens when you separate the males and the females for too long? 416032[/snapback] 416318[/snapback] *laughs*

Aside from Global not being a very "by the book" commander...Pre-armageddon it didn't matter. They barely even tolerated each other. By the time they were ready to admit they did anything more than that, she was headed to the Grand Cannon and knew her father wasn't going to send her back to the Macross. Post-armageddon all the rules are diffrent. The population is decimated, the human race is on the brink of extinction, the entire existing political infrastructure is vaporized, and for all they know the zentradi are coming back for round 2. Breeding becomes of paramount importance. Not just to repopulate the Earth, but to create enough "surplus" humans that colony missions are possible. Any regulation that limits breeding possibilities would likely not make it into the books of the new UN forces for that reason alone.

Parts-swapping always sucks. I prefer the vehicle parts actually look like they might belong in robot mode, though. That was my big problem with the first Starscream prototype. The stuff hanging off his legs very visibly didn't belong. It looked like he'd just stepped in a jetplane. The hip-danglers are ugly, but lack the plane-crash effect of the first prototype.

Highly unlikely, just due to the effort involved in creating the button patterns. If they could rig a routine that was capable of actually detecting the patterns int he music and constructing button patterns based on that, THEN it becomes plausible. But they can't, so it isn't.

Not really. Presumably it's got something to do with Ray supplying Basara with a rockstar VF-19. Basara's apparently involved in a top-secret military experiment, and somehow fails to realize it until the formation of Sound Force.

Fair enough. On the whole, I far prefer the extra junk dangling off the waist better than dangling off the legs, even if it does add new "limbs." I admit it's not perfect, though. Cartoon Starscream seems impossible to pull off without part swapping, sadly.

*laughing* Seriously, that was funny. Meph, you deserve a high five. But if cat girls deserve to die, then so does everyone in firebomber. 415665[/snapback] Firebomber didn't have a single product of inter-genus crossbreeding in it. 415739[/snapback] Mylene doesn't count? hmm then agian, considering the said origins of the meltran/zentran and humans.. guess that doesn't 415784[/snapback] I said inter-genus. The zentradi are pretty clearly filable in the genus homo. Potentially, they're actually a subspecies of homo sapiens. I don't believe there's any quarter-zentradi in the continuity yet. That would establish both humans and zentradi as the same species(if 2 animals can interbreed and the resultant offspring isn't sterile, they're considered to be the same species). The obvious size variance is of little consequence, amazingly. For a real-world example, a chihuahua and a great dane are both members of canis lupus(specifically, the subspecies canis lupus familiaris). The zentradi could probably be classified as homo sapiens based on other characteristics, but people would likely be unwilling to do so. The interbreeding capacity MAKES them accept it, as I understand things.

But the OLD Starscream prototype didn't look like the cartoon either. Remember, cartoon Starscream is totally finless.

*laughing* Seriously, that was funny. Meph, you deserve a high five. But if cat girls deserve to die, then so does everyone in firebomber. 415665[/snapback] Firebomber didn't have a single product of inter-genus crossbreeding in it.

How is Voltron not a mecha franchise? Yamato needs to do Robot Alchemic Drive. I'd pay good money for a toy meganite.

After looking it up, I can confirm that. Despite being the LAST of the PS1 Macross games(released in 2000), MacPlus is digital only, for reasons known only to the developer. Seriously, even VF-X1 supported analog(albeit only the joystick, since Sony's analog gamepads had yet to materialize).

true, but i see alot of whining about sound waves in space, and controls of the valks and such, none of its possable, so why worry? its a ficitonal show! But it's fun.

DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT!

World needs less catgirls anyways. "You better feed me souls, or I'm gonna cause a blackout! And then my cousin in your radio will cause bad reception!" Yah. I assume that drawing energy out of the protodevlin's native universe to do work was pumping something from our universe back in, just because that's how other apparent loopholes in the laws of thermodynamics work. And I think there's implication already that the SDF fold generator "fell through." We know it left a big swirly mass of energy with unusual properties in it's place. Personally, I suspect the space fold makes use of the same universe, just for diffrent purposes.

The majority I've seen have been decent games that are suitable for all audiences except those which feel they need blood and tits in their games to prove they aren't children. I've seen very few Nintendo titles that were ACTUALLY kid-oriented. The whole "Nintendo is kiddy" argument is a joke. And a tired one. Translation: "You're right, but I'd rather call you a meanie than concede the point."

Even if the project had been intended for peaceful purposes, the accident still could have happened, and likely WOULD have as they attempted to find the limits of the organs. It was a quest for the perfect power source. No fuel, no mess, no heat. Just free energy. The fact that it was tapped for weapons first is almost tangental. It would have become the backbone of the protoculture civilization if it had worked out instead of blowing up in their face.

Gameplay is of paramount importance in ANY video game. There's a good reason I enjoy Scrambled Valkyrie. And it's pretty clearly got nothing to do with faithfulness to the license. Same for 2036, lack of transformation control and all. And they made a sacrifice somewhere else in the design to get it there. I'd have to flip through some games and spend more effort studying the models than I really care to if I wanted to peg exactly where the designs deviated. I still don't see how it affects the actual fun-ness of the game. I was more bothered by the lack of head laser action, and even that didn't affect my overall enjoyment. Like I said, I don't even notice the lack of wings unless I'm actually looking for it. First time the argument came up, I dug out Battlecry, turned it on to check, and was surprised to see they WEREN'T there. I NEVER would have noticed if it hadn't been pointed out, because I'm usually too busy actually playing. Never played Invasion. I thought Battlecry was helluva fun, though.

LOL NINTENDO AM TEH KIDDIEZ GAEMZ!1111 Never heard that one before... *rolls eyes* Fun fact: JVC paid Sony lots of royalties on VHS. Because the fundamental technology behind VHS was licensed from Sony, who patented it for... Beta. So what everyone ignores is that Sony made money on VHS AND Beta. They didn't really CARE who won, even though they created Beta. And contrary to popular belief, Sony was not the only producer of Beta. Much like JVC did with VHS, they licensed the platform to a wide variety of vendors. BTW, if you'd care to explain how Sony's ability to survive staggering incompetence of the type they're currently demonstrating with the PS3(which they've demonstarted before with the MiniDisk, Digital Audio Tape, and a host of other products) has any bearing on whether the PS3 will be a success, I'm all ears. Sony is shooting themselves in the foot on the PS3. With a rocket launcher. If I were them, I'd be betting my future as a game company on the PSP. ... Again, this parallels Nintendo, who sustained their market presence through the GameBoy. Though the PSP has some stiff competition in the form of the DS. And from what I've heard, most PSPs are being used as media players instead of game machines.

edit: i forgot to read today's posts...lol. I can work with that, and then maybe transmits it to all the ships that the PD had? 415253[/snapback] The Bodol fleet, destroyed, the varauta defeated soundly, the protdeviln converted to good... all because the protoculture never invented a mute button. Yeah. But when you gotta eat, you gotta eat. Remember, the PD were using it as food.

Flashback 2012. There were a few sequences where we see Minmay leaving her home with an unhappy look, IIRC. 415195[/snapback] 2012 sucked, though. *dons asbestos suit*