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  1. He's the supreme commander of the Bodol fleet. There's a strong implication other major fleets exist even in the TV show. Why else would everyone automatically leave once their command ship is destroyed? Their entire society is regimented military. It makes more sense to stick together and forge a new fleet, not to bug out and become wandering space nomads. You're the one that pointed out she DIDN'T seem to know the details of what went down. I agreed, and pointed out that's less likely "because sexism" and more likely because Bodol HAD to keep the exact nature of events a secret. Britai mutinied? Sure, tell 'em. They'll probably wonder what happened to ol' buckethead anyways. The fleet was contaminated with the culture? No one must ever suspect. And, well, they DO have a social structure. Historians ARE important to the zentradi, as they are the keepers of knowledge. If a commander needs to know something, they don't look it up on their computer or dig through a pile of books. They ask their archivist. The archivist knows, and can far more readily filter and relate the knowledge to current events than a simple machine could. There's nothing whimsical about it, just a healthy respect for the advantage of knowledge. As I recall the TV series, they were laboring under the assumption that the ship had advanced self-repair capabilities. The concept of being able to repair your vehicle with your own hands was fundamentally foreign to them. Also, they wanted the reaction weaponry. The idea that the people were important to the ship's repairs and armaments was not one they had in mind. But the point is, Britai was explicitly recalled in the TV series because of how much trouble he'd had dealing with the Macross. His assignment was simple, he vastly outnumbered and outgunned the enemy, why had he lost so much and still failed to captured their vessel? Anyone the escaping fleet linked up with would learn what THOSE SHIPS knew. NO ONE was to know the depth of the problem. The rebels knew, Bodol knew, MAYBE the highest command level under him knew(but not likely). There was no need to tell his subordinates anything other than "Britai's fleet turned traitor. We're killing them, and turning the planet they're defending to glass." And the ladies wouldn't have to force the information out of the dudes in the TV series. They were all on the same side, though they never interacted face-to-face. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
  2. My synopsis is based on observation of how business actually works. And no, if you have a hot property, you can do whatever the heck you want to it and people will line up for it. Even knowing the original creators aren't involved. Even knowing you have a terrible track record. I hate people for it, but in many cases that is EXACTLY how it works. Why would they only want him as a director? Surely you would want one of the creators onboard at the early concept stage, not approaching them once you had a story set in stone. And that's a pretty fair approach to things. But as you said, it wasn't Macross. That makes it easy for a Macross fan to dismiss out of hand. Good show or not, it isn't Macross. I have no real opinion on it, having not seen it in many years. Mostly I just remember Ishtar and her business suit.
  3. Indeed. Typically, when a rights-holder doesn't bring the original creator on board for a production, it means they don't want the creator's opinion, and will actively lock them out of providing input. I'm pretty sure THAT'S how this business works, as with most other businesses. I do acknowledge that in this case, the lack of Studio Nue involvement was likely more due to at least one of the primary staff being uninterested than an active attempt to shut anyone out, but that hardly bolsters any case that they were involved "under the table". Rather the contrary, actually.
  4. I promise to share any brilliant insights/off-the-wall quackery that comes up. I'd rather not have a formal stake in it, as "on-demand" writing has always been difficult for me.
  5. You know, I may sit down and synopsisize/ponder key episodes and arcs at some point. But really, some episodes there's not a lot to say about. I like what Global Report does with the framing scenes and dialog, but it's still mostly a clip episode for those who came in late. And the most fun parts to write in my rambling are where it veers off into rampant speculation. I mean, I ASSUME Bodol would lie in any reports to other fleets(or his superiors, if any exist), but I don't think that's really CANON to the same degree I laid it out. Chlore's information being so spotty DOES make me happy, though. It makes it clear, in-continuity, that he didn't tell his peers the whole story. But it doesn't really confirm he actively falsified updates to save his own skin/fleet. In any case, I'm about at the midpoint of a rewatch with some people, one of whom has never seen the show, and I'm struck how harsh the show is at this particular juncture. Focker dies, Kakizaki dies, and the Macross is banished from the Earth... in three consecutive episodes. But I AM pleased to note that said Macross newbie was blindsided by Focker's death last week. From the first post-battle hints that all is not well, right up until Misa breaks the news to Hikaru, dude's sitting there going "Nice fakeout, guys. But we all know Focker won't die. He's too cool, he's got plot immunity." That plan still pays out three decades later. So when you DO sell those friends on this... they're gonna miss Roy too.
  6. If I recall the quote you're thinking of, he said the differences in story were because one would naturally tell a story differently for a movie than for a TV series. It was also stated at a time when the typical fan was not wildly obsessive about the canonicity of a given feature and how "real" it was. It was obviously never intended to mean "these are the exact same story", which they rather clearly aren't except in the broadest sense(a love triangle against the backdrop of aliens wrecking Earth's crap just because humanity got caught in their crossfire). All elements of the Bodol fleet. Not all zentradi ships ever. That was made clear enough in the TV series when they captured a well-defended factory satellite, and if I recall the movie flat-out states "but there's a few thousand more such fleets out there so we totally can't relax now guys." OF COURSE Chlore knew nothing of what actually happened during the Sol operation. What could it POSSIBLY profit Bodol to advertise to another fleet that his own fleet had been contaminated to some degree? That elements of Britai's fleet mutinied to demand an armistice? That Britai ACCEPTED this farcical motion and DID pursue a cease-fire? Most damningly, that he himself had directly witnessed an act of culture similar to the ones that had corrupted Britai's fleet?? No, he would have had no choice but to lie his gigantic backside off about the actual state of affairs in the Sol system. He couldn't hide a full-fleet deployment, but reporting the accurate details surrounding it would only invite action against him, likely extermination of the sort he attempted to deliver to Britai. Every fleet available would've come to help atomize his entire command. In short, what happens in the Sol system STAYS in the Sol system. He had but scant knowledge of the protoculture himself, and needed confirmation of his suspicions before he was going to start sharing those few nuggets of classified information. It's not a complex chain of logic. Also because Britai had been getting his crap WRECKED by a single gunship, lacking an escort fleet, manned by primitives from a backwater planet that had never even left their own star system before. And MICLONE primitives at that!
  7. It's not JUST that!
  8. And Missile Command was 1980, and is close to what the girls are "playing".
  9. I love this thread right now. I just wanted to say that.
  10. Yeah, show officially starts next month. With opening by Jam Project, because keck yeah.
  11. After due consideration, and rewatching the best episode of Macross ever, I've changed my mind. My favorite Macross mech is actually the Magic Bicycle.
  12. Personally, they lost me when the trailers and previews came out and we had more to judge by then photos of the new title character(which had already concerned me, but I figured things were still salvagable). To my eye, one of the main things of the original WAS the way they treated Murphy as a machine, just parts for their project. The big clunky cyborg body was, to my eye, intentionally dehumanizing of the meaty core. And this movie did none of that, aesthetically, or story-wise. They preserve both the appearance of humanity and the man behind the visor. Were I to compare it to another nostalgia cashgrab, it strikes me as similar to Team Knight Rider, where they changed the basic premise from "one man can make a difference" to "one man can't be trusted with that much power." As I said at the time, this may've been an enjoyable movie, but it was no Robocop. And I'm sick of Hollywood doing random projects with old names because it'll get more ticket sales if they slap a beloved title on it. I will watch a remake that appears to be respectful of the original content. Possibly even a bad film that's actually pandering to nostalgia. But I have no time for a simple cash-grab wearing the cloak of nostalgia only so it can turn around and crap on the original. And once you discard the entire main character concept, you've lost any claim to being a remake. I would've watched it if it was Mechofficer or CyberPopo. But not as RoboCop.
  13. I am excited! ... But I haven't been reading much lately. As soon as I find the time/urge, I'll read through this. I'm sure I will savor it.
  14. Trufax: I initially thought the Sazabi thumbnail was the VF-19 Kai, and thought the entire sequence of posts had been setting us up.
  15. The preview episode? Yes. It is everything I hoped for.
  16. Why? WHYYYYY?!?!Cyberpopo doesn't DESERVE a sequel.
  17. Honestly, I thought the best Prime disconnect was the dinobot fight, when he's all "I am freeing you! So do what I say or I'll kill you!" I still maintain this is the best of the live-action movies, and that that is damning with faint praise.
  18. LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice, because Oracle was dicking around with the community. At this point, Apache owns OpenOffice, but they've had trouble drawing developers. And due to license oddities, code from OpenOffice can be used in LibreOffice, but the reverse is not true, so LibreOffice tends to be ahead of the curve.
  19. I don't know, maybe because it's a blatantly obvious screwjob, a shameless cash grab, and symptomatic of an ever-more-prevalent attitude that it isn't FAIR that profits stop after people buy the game/system and there needs to be a mechanism to ensure a continued flow of money forever no matter how rapacious and shameful it is. I'm vaguely surprised they don't charge you a quarter every time you turn the system on, on top of the monthly service fee for a service they don't provide. The fundamental problem with your defense of the circumstance is... Microsoft and Sony aren't PROVIDING those servers. I would understand if they were, and in fact I defended XBox Live on the XBox because that was exactly what Microsoft was doing. But now both MS and Sony charge you to enable access to other people's service, not to provide a service themselves.
  20. Oh, I know. Fortunately, Destiny is enough of a fiasco that this will not be as hard a loss as it might've. But I refuse to pay someone a monthly fee to LITERALLY do nothing. I do not lease, rent, or borrow my games, I OWN them and they are not a monthly service, the new cable bill.
  21. Speaking of Taken King: I want the fancy collector's edition box. It looks awesome. But it's only available on PS4 and X1. I don't own a PS4 or X1. I would never play Destiny on one anyways, because I'm not paying someone a ransom just to turn on my ethernet port. This is an annoyance, but I get it. Whatever. PS3 4 LYFE Now then, on to my actual point... For SOME REASON, the "digital collector's edition" IS available for all platforms. For the same price as the fancy box full of things that cost actual money to manufacture, you get nothing but the game and a few gimmicky items. How does that make sense? It's demonstrably a lesser product, surely it should cost less. (I refrain from commenting on the name "digital collector's edition")
  22. Pretty much, yeah. The most annoying thing of the story is there's little STUBS of story. They act like they're important, kick you out of the gameplay to watch cutscenes, but then it all goes nowhere.
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