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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
RavenHawk replied to RavenHawk's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
So, this is really BARELY related to MZ 23, but the mailman just delivered this item, and I'm actually really excited to put it together... and just wanted to share that new toy excitement. How is this related to MZ 23? Well, with the truck with trailer combining with the motorcycle, and with the likely slow (but completely understandable) timeline from Arcadia, this is going to be my Hargun stand-in for the foreseeable future.- 817 replies
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Looks like you're missing the Dark Stig, Dark Ley, and metallics... (That's me hiding my envy and jealousy... the unarmored figures are on my wish list, as is Houquet, sadly... Very nice collection)
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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I have no doubt you're absolutely right. If only those CMs (non-armored) character figures had movable legs...- 817 replies
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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Glad it worked out. One of these days, I'm going to be brave enough to try to jam in one of my CMs MOSPEADA riding suit figures (that probably sounds really bad, out of context).- 817 replies
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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Yes, mine is. No issues with it at all. Just the same steps (i.e. adjusting the legs when he's seated) as with my metallic Garland. I can take a pic if you want, though I don't have one handy.- 817 replies
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It actually looks to me (from following the transformation pics) like it will be pretty close to the right position... but yeah, it will need to be looked into. Might need at least a small range of motion.
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Yeah, I ordered 2 of each because my plan is to have some fun, keeping one of each stock and one of each modded. I'll probably end up 3d printing the rocket launcher from the art, a rear mudguard for symmetry on the two tires, a clear visor, and one with the lines/marks/HUD only on the inside of the visor. Might do some alternate footpegs with shifter/brake, depending on how the toy looks once I actually get it in hand. This is the fun part. Taking what looks to be a fantastic toy, and making it fit your own personal tastes.
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Finally have a use for that translucent ABS filament...
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I agree with you that it's tilted, but not by much. Maybe in the neighborhood of 3 degrees? Not perfect, but hey, I'm ok with it, especially considering that they seem to be trying to be as true as possible to the MOSPEADA book redesigns. Now, will we get a Yellow like from the Animation Bikes book? (I'm actually fine without it, especially since it is a very different design aesthetic from the Sentinel bikes and I don't think it was illustrated by Aramaki, though I can't read the Japanese on the inside cover to be sure; just kind of a fun thought)
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I like it. From what I can see, I like it a lot, especially how the tank folds over the rider, front to back. While it might be a pain to do, it looks like you MIGHT even be able to transform the bike while the rider remains seated the whole time (if shuffling forward during the transformation).
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Not that I care much, since the boxes go in storage while the toy is going to be what's on display... but the box art looks a little uninspired. Maybe I'm spoiled by the recent reissues with some of the gorgeous 80s art.
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Yeah, between Sentinel and Arcadia, I'm just using the time to fill in gaps in my collections while I wait. Picked up the metallic edition Yamato Garland a few weeks ago, and just got the metalic/translucent CMs Yellow this week.
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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Just posted on Facebook: So, the new factory sample is on display at the store... but it sounds like we're still a ways off. Does this also mean that the figure cannot fit in robot mode, but only the top half of the body?- 817 replies
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I have two on preorder. I'll probably leave one exactly as is on the cover illustration, and 3D print some upgrades to the other for personal tastes (a rear mudguard, which would make the armor mode actually look symmetrical with covers over both tires; foot shifter and foot brake, which would work for posing, though would be a terrible idea in real life; the rocket launcher from the cover illustration; whatever else comes to mind).
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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Well, we seem to have similar tastes, but not identical. That's just how it is with these types of things: each of us have some things resonate with us more than others. Not to belabor the point, but it really doesn't make sense to me how much merchandise there seems to be for MZ23, and how little for any iteration of BGC (like only Atelier Sai having made the Scoop Chase hardsuits; luckily, I think that Yamato really did an impressive job on their toys).- 817 replies
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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If you can find a decent price on it, I think it's definitely worth it. I usually see them on auction sites in the US anywhere from $300-600. In my case, I was on the lookout to try to fill out my Yamato Garland collection, and everything else was just a bonus. Ended up finding it on eBay from the UK in "used" condition (i.e. the box was a little banged up, but everything inside looked like it had never even been opened). At under $100, even after shipping to the US, it was an absolute no brainer for me and I'm super happy with the purchase. Seeing how gorgeous the book is was a thrill.- 817 replies
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I knew the Sentinel version was based on Aramaki's design from the MOSPEADA book (I own that book and absolutely love it), but I'm embarrassed to say that I totally missed the folded up footpeg on the thigh armor on the cover. Wow, I can't believe I missed that... Good catch! If they match Aramaki's design, then I'm totally ok with the footpeg placement (even if the motorcyclist in me isn't). I've been wanting a toy of this design since I first preordered the book in late 2008.
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I agree with you on the footpeg placement, and it's something that has been bothering me all along. It doesn't match the original animation... It doesn't match the concept art... (in fairness, I just did a look through a bunch of the real original concept art, and it mostly seems to just skip the footpegs entirely, so this might not be a good argument) ... and, in my opinion, the MOSPEADA would, if in the real world, be intended more like a Ducati Multistrada, where the rider might find themselves just as likely on paved roads as on slightly rougher terrain requiring more of an upright, weight off the seat, stance.
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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That's what always surprised me with the toy lines. It seems like Megazone 23 has gotten a lot more love from toy makers and model makers than you would expect. Big Yamato line (about equal to Bubblegum Crisis), decent Aoshima line, and now three separate companies making figures, with at least one planning a full line. All of this from 3 OVAs, with most fans really only being partial to the first. Compare that to Bubblegum Crisis with 8 initial episodes, 3 more in Bubblegum Crash, 3 in A.D. Police Files, 3 in Parasite Dolls, 12 in A.D. Police: To Serve and Protect, and 26 more in the reboot Bubblegum Crisis: Tokyo 2040, and yet the same, if not less, merchandise. Back to expectations on Megazone 23: All of this is just my personal opinions, and my personal tastes... but I don't think it's that great. There are SEPARATE ELEMENTS of it that I love, but most of the movie does nothing for me. I keep coming back to it mainly because of my love of bikes and Shinji Aramaki designs, as well as some of the ideas behind the storylines, rather than the actual execution of those ideas. Most people seem to love the first OVA, and hate the two sequels (the final one of which is more like 2 separate, shorter, distinct movies). For me, personally, I think they don't stand up well together as a trilogy, but I think each is totally ok taken separately, in and of itself. I still love and collect Megazone 23 items, but, for my personal tastes and for my personal enjoyment of watching and regular re-watching, the Aramaki rankings are: 1) Genesis Climber MOSPEADA 2) Bubblegum Crisis 3) Bubblegum Crash 4) Viper's Creed 5) BGC Tokyo 2040 6) Megazone 23 7) remaining BGC spin-offs- 817 replies
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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Honestly, I think you can even tell when you watch it on the small screen. it's especially jarring with the new ending adding in for Robotech: The Untold Story- 817 replies
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
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I think it may be the same contents as the "Maneuver Book" with the silver cover and the top-down view of the Garland, but I don't own that book to compare. If someone on here does, and wants to post a couple pages from it to compare, I'll do the same from mine to verify.- 817 replies
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We've been discussing over at the newer thread
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Consolidated Megazone 23 Toy/Model Thread for 2017-2018
RavenHawk replied to RavenHawk's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
So we've gone from 12/2017 to 3/2018, and now to 7/2018. I have to say it makes me wonder 2 things: 1) If the original, more minor rework (at least as I understood it) caused an estimate of 4 months delay, and this more significant rework (again, from my understanding of the blog post) is ALSO estimated at 4 months delay, how reliable are these estimates? Seems like that July date could easily slip a couple more months, even if no new issues are discovered (especially considering that the blog post seems to say that they are reopening ordering to get more orders in, which could lead to larger production quantities and production times). and 2) At some point, with all of these delays, and with the creation of new molds for the diecast bits, and with material cost increases, either they're going to take a big hit on profit, or they're going to have to increase the price.- 817 replies
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