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In regards to Kevin's post, a guy by the name of Jeebers wrote this: So, let me get this straight...fanboys are now making excuses for a crappy plot and crappy character development? I guess I shouldn't say now, cause they've been doing it for awhile, trying to appease the idiots at HG, but still. What he needs to understand is that if you sacrifice one, you expect to get expect to gain in something else. Give and get??? For a poor plot, I would've expected to at least build on character development, even if it was on pre existing characters. Sacrificing characters development, I'd expect great storyline with plenty of action/plot depth ratio. Instead, what RTSC brings is a plot that bounces around like a cheap rubber ball, with no focal point or purpose. Character-wise, it keeps, almost forces each character to have a cheap protruded character, fake and chaulk full of lines that serve no development, but try to fulfill an already empty plot. Judgine by what I've seen from early concept, and have heard during early production, all this is a big improvement from Tommy's early vision of this poor project. If it sounds like I'm picking on Tommy, or just picking on Kevin, it's not simply that. Tommy decided to take the reigns of this project, and keep it to himself, with little or no regard to common sense, let alone peers and logical numbers of fans (the latter I understand, but when the multitude speak, they may have something to say). Since this is his project, the blame needs to go to him, as well as whatever good people are able to find. As for Kevin, I get on his case here cause he really has no clue about what he sounds like, what holes he digs, and what he should know. Not to mention the fact that they both lie to a fault. PR does grant, as bad as it sounds, a leniency to blow up facts. It's not an uncommon practice. When have you ever heard a spokesman say their company wasn't doing well, but at the level they do it at, they are causing more debate and issue.

Ah, shame. That's too bad. It seemed like a promising project. How about the Macross Zero Project?

If you do a search for it on Google, it's around. I don't know if the site I've seen these on is still around, but I'll upload it tomorrow morning, anime52k. That's quite funny...They ARE brothers, Tommy and Steve, although, I don't know who changed the spelling of the last name. My guess is Tommy to either make it look like he isn't related, or so people wouldn't mispronounce his name. I would think of that as being kinda shady if my own brother denied us being related because someone asked. Who knows, it must be one of those big HG secrets. I like how Kevin said "high profile franchise." Um, no, Robotech is a back burner, bottom of the totem poll franchise, fighting for survival. Any production of Shadow Rising will not bring it out of that rut. Crap, RTSC didn't even do that. A sequel to something that didn't do it is probably gonna be the same. Perhaps, if the LAM comes, and that's a big IF, then maybe it'll stick it's head out of the water, but when I think of high profile, I think of Gundam, Star Wars, Transformers, G.I.Joe. Robotech??? Where the F@#K are you coming from? Heck even as Macross is gaining a boatload of new fans and a new popularity in Japan, and in the U.S. I wouldn't even call it a "high profile franchise", although it's close and could be somewhat debated. In reading Kevin's post, it's sad how the thread author just asks a simple question, and Kevin goes into brown nose PR mode and again says the same B.S. that he says all the time. I think he's forgotten how to talk normal. The used car salesman line is cheap, and nobody's buying, unless you've already bought all of it already. Another point on how bad the franchise has become. Everyone has a title there that they have no idea, or experience in. Thanks Kevin, for proving us right every time over here.

Yeah, you can say that again. The Captain cosplay if damn amazing. I'm actually surprised. That's definitely one of the better costumes on here, in detail alone.

Ahh, that's what I meant. In SDF:M it's only shown as a model or some valkyrie on a table, nothing more, nothing less. But they are able to use that design, and that one only, from what I understand. With all my hanging out with them back in the day, I have a pretty damn good scan of that thing in focus, and in some detail. It's not a bad looking fighter. It would've made RTSC just a bit more palletable had it been in there. And right after I say "not a bad design" you mention this P.O.S. Never made sense, but there you go. What does? Could be right on that. However, either way, all we know is that it was just a cheap way to use a "new" design as far as Robotech is concerned. HG: "Your VFX-4 is now belonging to us!" -Bastards!!!

There's plenty of inexpensive places to stay. However, July is usually a high traffic time of year. If you are going, my suggestion is book a place now before rates get higher.

So, in a nutshell, this just shows what the franchise has in it's care...A PR guy who's busy doing all he can to keep his job by doing all these conventions and annoying even the diehard fans, a creative director that only will take credit for something if its well received, and the site admin guy who just hangs out. It's no wonder why nothing gets done. I think HG is able to use the VF-4, as it is shown in SDF:M as a table model in one of the later episodes. I don't think they show it transformed, so that might be why it doesn't transform in the comics. But, it may also have to do with laziness, as Tommy was asking Memo, a few other fans and myself how it transformed.

There are 2 things that really detract from this item. 1)While it's cool that it's a model kit, it has no landing gear, or any addition visual points of detail, like the nobs that pop off the back for the jet propulsion. 2) The price is just slightly less than the 1/72 Macross F model kits, which have detail, transform, and are highly detailed. Now, while I do understand that it's a very limited run, you'd think that at least by increasing the run to 5000, they'd lower the price and sell more. This "exclusive" thing kinda annoys me. I'd like to buy one, but with only 1000, how much am I gonna have to pay for it now?

That's along the lines as to what we were told as mods over there. I was told things such as hyping up new product, and not saying anything bad about the product. As I was a mod, I was very vocal about speaking my mind, thus those recommendations. I never spoke any trash about any of them, but would simply voice an issue, so on and so forth. Apparently, they didn't like that. Anyways, being vocal about my issues w/ Robotech, then and now, hasn't really changed. It's just more prevailant now, since I am not obligated, and through all that time after RTSC was released, I got to see the "ugly" side of some of its creators. As for Memo, he doesn't have any fault. He's just a huge fan of Robotech, who is good friends with Tommy. While his intentions are strictly as a fan whom Tommy confides in, I can seperate the two. While I do consider Memo a close acquaintance, Robotech is the one thing that I can now keep seperate. Memo loves Tommy's work, I don't. We agree to disagree on that, and it doesn't interfere with anything else. Although, it does seem that Tommy would prefer that Memo doesn't talk to a few of his older friends regarding Robotech.

Your request, DarrinG, is a valid and simple request. I also believe Tommy is a very good artist, and can do some very good work, as I've seen in the past. Half the problems that they have are self inflicted. Beginner's mistake is even fine. What rubs me and others the wrong way I feel, is the lack of owning up to faults, passing blame, and then making other fans feel isolated when they call them out. You're only a friend until you don't like something they do. That's part of the reason why I severed my ties to them. Even a poor product can be forgiven, but the choices afterward are what determine true character. They, so far, have proven none.

Yeah, as a joke amongst friends and stuff, I can see it just fine. no big deal. But, I know quite a few people who were there that got offended. I think it was just more shocking that it was said in a crowd of several hundred people. I could personally careless about the character design, but take responsibility for your own decisions.

Thanks for the links, they don't have any seeders, so it looks like it'll take literally forever to downloads. Anyone else have a link?

I agree that anime is chaulked full of big boobs, bubbly behinds, yadda yadda. I didn't even have a real problem with it in RTSC, except for two things. 1) they did too much redesign of characters that were already done and there. How hard is it to take an original character design and simply update the face a little to adapt to the new style? 2) The idea that it's not his fault the characters look so crappy, but it was his Korean brothers/sisters just disgust me. Whether it was meant as a joke or not, to be in a "professional" position as he is, and make that comment in an attempt to shift blame really shows the level he would've gone to make a mistake someone else's fault. Maybe it was a joke and he was just trying to think of an answer quickly to a question he didn't expect. Well, whatever happened to a simple honest answer? I mean, what excuse do you give for this? Found this on the net a long time ago, before RTSC even came out. Doesn't this show that it was Tommy's intent to design them from the start? Look at the "Studio" and the artist who drew that?

Speaking about passing blame. When I went to a screening of RTSC at a theater in westwood, all the staff, and some voice actors were there. After the movie was over, they decided to have some Q&A. Someone asked why the characters all looked very comic book like, i.e., the chisled bodies and big boobs especially. Tommy's response was more like "Well, most of the Korean animators are young guys, and you know how those young Korean guys can draw the women..." My wife and I were so damn shocked to hear that crap. I'm not Korean, but I was quite appauled that he would stoop so low as to point the blame on the Korean animators. Tommy and Steve both are Korean, and to make a statement like that... Anyways, what was even more lame about that, was the fact that as the creative DIRECTOR, those were designs he himself approved. So to put blame on something he approved is just retarded, unless they decided not to see the designs before production. In that case they're just as stupid. It's funny how they just never owned up and said something simple like "you know, we thought the designs were fine, and that's our mistake. All we can do from here is strive for a better feature as we progress." Even some sort of crap like that would've shown some cahones, and would've deflated that. From a recent post on rt.com, it seems like they're still using some very similar lame excuse as to the character design. "Young animators"...but who looks at the designs before they go into production???

Yessss!!! This will be Sheryl figure no.2. I may have to have a seperate little display section for Sheryl/women of Macross F only. I'm on board for this fo shoe!

My background. For a decent time, I was in very good standing with Tommy, Steve, and staff. I used to throw these gtherings twice a year that everyone would show up to. During these times, I used to get "privilidged info" from them. I was also one of the mods on their site for a period of time, and in various conversations with Tommy, I did get quite a bit of info. Lots of other info also came from just being around people who knew things about what was going on. Nothing really in depth, or necessarily too secretive came from them, but over time, if you put 1 and 1 together (what current staff would say, what privilidged fans would say, and what other people in the industry would say), the facts would simply just present themselves. I also have/had a contact at Funimation. During the final days before RTSC came out, I used to get info from this person. When RTSC was said to come out in I think February, instead of December the previous year, it was my contact (and the internet to confirm) that said it was due to Wal Mart not having retail space until after the holiday season. I guess that liitle bit of unimportant info got HG in a huff, but nevertheless, it was already on the net. Anyways, my last quote from that email is from this said contact. Lots of good info there. I'd probably say that most of my info came from other contacts related to HG, than HG themselves. Tommy and staff, at times, did give me some privilidged info, but it wasn't anything that could really damage them. Knowing people in the "industry" for whatever that means kinda helps, too. So, there you have it.

I'll be looking to see if this will be out in any of the "artsie" theaters in my area. They tend to bring over some real interesting movies from time to time.

Damnit, 1/60 Koenig Monster. My 3 wishes would be 1)VA-3, 2)VF-17, 3)vf-5000, all in 1/60 scale. Here's to wishful thinking.

I'm getting pricing on these, and trying to find something that is good quality, and won't be too pricey. The problem is that the graphic has about 7 different colors, so I'm seeing what method is best vs. cost effective. Any feedback from those who have any ideas would be awesome.

I have the Blu-Ray edition for these, anybody have a site to download the iso files of the DVD themselves? I'm really at a brick wall here. Thanks for any input

I have the patches that were sold on hlj.com. I am just looking on how to get the actual jacket. If that was made for you, my compliments to whoever constructed that. It's got a nice fit. That's awesome that your girlfriend's mom is supportive of hobbies and the sort. My parents were cool with my toy and model collecting, and anime stuff, after I met my wife through it all. They don't say much now.

Very nice outfits. You guys in Chile have cosplay down quite well when it comes to Macross. BTW, Maximillian_Jenius, where did you get your SMS jacket?

White primer should be fine. I personally use grey only for my own reasons. to me, if color bleeds through on the white primer, I have a tendency to overpaint on my next coats to over compensate. The grey, in my opinion, covers slightly better, and also give me a better look at any fixes I may need to do. Nevertheless, if you have white primer, use what you got. It should be just fine.

Yep, and he accuses you of "attacking", yet it's not considered an attack when it's in defense of Robotech. I was accused of attacking the staff when I asked who designed the RTSC poster due to it's lack of connection with the movie. Apparently, they're ultra defensive about trivial things. Can't blame them too much, they put themselves in that position everytime. You know, if I put out something that was criticized, instead of getting defensive, it'd be more like "oh well, that's your opinion." A prudent way to do that would be to do quality work, something it seems they have yet to do since the mid-late 80s.

No, no one has ever told me that, and my wife will think that's quite funny. Maybe I'll show her the pic. So, Jango-Fett Van Damme. A few of us in our group of buddies decided that the "I'll kick your ass" pose is quite funny. Especially when we all get together. It all started with my buddy Tom, and it's been infectious with the group since. Yeah, I'm gonna kick someone's ass, especially with that hardcore cosplay (LMAO) Che, thanks for the compliments. I am going to bring it to MacrossWorld con 09. As far as wearing it, no go. I lose lbs. by the second wearing the jacket.