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I'm playing catchup since I was at Disneyland Friday, and had to work saturday and sunday. I work late today, so I'm getting all caught up.

Pete, if I agree with your fight stupid with stupid, does that mean we're following your cult now? Do I sense a hostile takover? We probably should give them something to flock over and slobber over. With the franchise being nothing right now but a rumor factory, giving them something to stumble over would be quite fun. What's even more funny, is that even if they read these posts, which I'm sure they do, they'd probably still act out like little half wits. Well, if you decide to do it, I'm in. Hahaha, Like HIV, stay positive!!!

I'm sure one of the mods who hold their double standards would ban that person. I don't think the staff care...Personally, I really don't think they even care about the franchise they work for. I know Steve only gets involved when enough people bring it to his attention. Other than that, he's probably the laziest person on the planet. It's also the reason why part of the whole mess with their fandom is where it is. As for Dougbendo, it seems he's become the sellout that he hates. As I read several posts ago, someone pointed out that he seemed to be tolerant of Shadow Chronicles. I believe he had many choice words for the same show not too long ago. Ahhh, in all seriousness, in my profession, based on the facts, most of these people would be classified as 5150 (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Makes me happy that I am no longer part of the torn group. I'd be really offended and embarassed if I was, but like I keep saying, the wackjobs just make it funny. Too bad not enough fans care about the trash the few bring to the table due to their own mental incompetencies and personal issues. Oh well, keep the gossip news rolling.

Hmmm, from what I've observed and know, we all here have been our own voice, whether good, not so good, or whatnot. I guess I'm added to the crybaby festival because I have that tendency to piss off that side with no way of retribution. Don't know, don't care... I don't cater to morons or idiots. Seems that they just want to group all of us together as some cult for whoever makes the biggest splash, and Seto, that be you. I'm actually surprised that they didn't throw me in as a JT follower. While not necessarily that either, at least his podcasts consists of talk that reaches well beyond the i.q. of 100. I think a jealousy seems to be what sparked lil dougie to get all bent out of shape and banned. So, the little group of allies that was Dougbendo, Memo, and Pizza seems to have fallen apart? Makes me wonder why they even try. I don't think any of the elitist have ever learned to just play friendly. See what Robotech teaches you? It teaches you to fire off at anything that doesn't fit in your world. The decent fans of Robotech are going extinct. That's sad in a way, as some of them I got along with pretty well.

Man, I've been on this page for like two days, and never had a chance to read anything till now. Seems like a lot has gone on. I really hope there isn't a Macross LAM, EVER. I like the anime style, and think that a LAM would really only be a detraction from what Macross really is. I stand on the firm belief that just because something can be made into a Hollywood movie, doesn't mean it should. In the conversation of PTTSC, Dana does come off as more of a cowardly mess. Her first appearance in the Love and War comics (I think) shows her in Mospeada armor retreating the earth, in which again, that whole series is a retelling of the background of how Max and Miriya hooked up. Then, in PTTSC, she is shown in the cameo in a brief uncomfortable moment between her and Maia, which brings up another question...I know this maybe an odd question for here, but did anyone ever get a reason, or hear a reason why Dana's "sister" in Southern Cross was changed from Aurora to Maia in RTSC? It seemed like one of those "hey, let's mess up our continuity more so that we can show how much in control we are, then we'll make the fans like it." Either that, or they liked the name from Macross Zero. That's what I think, a combo of both. It's a C-O-N spiracy.

Uxi, did you go here to get the patches for those remaining DVDs??? http://asiandvdclub.org/details.php?id=31431&edited=1 Also, I finally finished all 16 DVDs and they work perfectly.

These poor people with nothing to do except try to rationalize something that makes no sense, then try to substantiate it as to why an almost 30 year old series is better. What makes it even more funny is the fact that it's all done for a couple fans who actually care enough to keep up with it. I like keeping up with it for the sake of a good laugh, while I'm sure those in the other boat are really trying to be as serious as can be about all this. Some RT fan's very existence within the fandom just scream "run for your lives" when they talk, or "damaged goods". Thanks for providing the comic relief.

I just got the Ranka book...Has anybody seen it yet, pretty cool with some new pics of Ranka, and a lot of writing, what may be in the first person. Interesting book.

Hmm, don't we hope it ends up looking like that. I wouldn't even bother. Just goes to show how RT fans are willing to accept anything. What can you do?

DVD 11 done, and working perfectly, only 5 more to go. This takes time, but the remastered picture, and the much better subs is fantastic. Working on DVD 12 now, but it takes a lot of time to do these. Have to add the patch, shrink the .iso for DVD-5, prepare the iso, then rebuild it, then burn it to the DVD. I am really happy with the end result though.

Someone at the next Robotech panel should ask when they're gonna stop bootlegging other series and make their own, using their own designs...I know this was asked a long time ago, but it's one of those questions that should be asked at least once a year. That advertisement makes it seem that the 3 series came from Robotech. I know only a moron would think that, but look at the people who we've had to deal with from rt.com and elsewhere. Not all of them, but it's not a far stretch to confuse them. In regards to my last post about the RT LAM, my hope is that if the movie gets completed, that new designs make the originals invalid, or dead money to HG. While it's a far stretch, it'd be nice. Better yet, it'd be cool if WB decides to pick up the franchise, and open up the negotiations properly to get all of Macross over here. OK, I know, I'm just dreaming, but still, it's a nice thought.

As I've read these past 2 pages, it's my observation that the people who don't like the serieskind of expected the story to be "spelled" out for them. This, I can understand. Most people don't wanna think about such heavy concepts while watching mecha go at it. However, I find it odd, that some would find the series pretentious. Anime, whether it's heavy in philosophy, or some bubble-gum pop anime, is art, and the artists who create it and make it, I don't think, make these with any thought of being pretentious. I've always seen NGE as being made with the intent to give each view a different interpretation. For anyone to assume that there's only one interpretation is arrogant, and would make that person who assumes that the @ss in that assumption. I said this before in another thread, and I'll say it here...NGE is like a painting, and should probably be looked at from different points of view. To think about it one dimensionally usually leaves you with a WTF type of reaction. It seems like the concepts that the creators had was way too much to fit in the constraints of the series, and what was left was more of an abstract piece of art that leaves the viewer to piece together it all and come up with their own ideas. I would say that my idea of NGE is correct, but it's correct for me. It may be different for someone else. I'm not into the whole "I'm right, and everyone else is wrong" thing. Now, if you don't like it, that's fine and all. This anime isn't for everyone, just like bubble-gum anime isn't for everyone either. I found NGE very different from most anime, but I wouldn't say earth-shattering, ground breaking. Nevertheless, it is one of my favorites amongst others.

I've only seen bits and pieces of the work so far, so it maybe interesting to see. Wasn't big on Edgar or the old guy, but I'll reserve my thoughts till the final product. Will it be available for download? and, will all 5 be done, or is this just the one episode and that's it?

The link for the patches for 8, then 10-16 are above. I've been putting the series on DVD, and they are coming out perfectly, just tested DVD 10, and it looks great, and the dialogue makes sense. I'm probably gonna buy some high quality blanks, and have the covers professionally done. I'd like to package this up nice, like as if I bought it. To everybody who helped put these together, thank you.

I have a feeling that if WB was going to simply sit on RT LAM, they would'nt have hired 4 writers already to try to get this thing going. I still don't have the confidence to say that it's going to get made, but I don't think WB is simply gonna sit on this, at least not at this point. If later on, it turns out that budget conflicts and other issues become too big, that can all change. On the "fan person" bringing this to WB, wasn't it Tobey's production company that first showed interest in this? Supposedly, Tobey is a big fan, so there you go. I personally can careless about the movie getting made or not. Either way, I think the fans that actually know of Robotech and are part of the website, are probably gonna feel alienated, as it probably won't resemble anything they're familiar with. On the flip side to that, if it comes out, and does well enough to put out product, all that new product will replace the old Macross related stuff. If new fans come in, which let's face it, there probably would be, they'll only be familiar with the new designs. Any Macross designs will be "copies of the original Robotech" for them. That may make Macross a franchise that they may have to stay away from. Doubt it would play out like that, but it'd be nice.

Every interview that I read with the creators, they seemed to have the series so thought out and planned. What I think Evangelion is, is a series that has so much concept planned for it, that it wasn't able to have all of it put into it. The outcome was some sort of abstract interpretation of what they saw, where to the creators and director, it probably makes all sense, and to us, it makes little sense. Evangelion makes a lot of sense to me, but that took watching it through 3 times and seeing it through a very abstract P.O.V. Each time I watched it, it gave me new points of view, and things I didn't see before, became clear as day the other times. While that shouldn't be the norm for anime, Evangelion was more like a painting to me, and paintings are meant to be viewed more than once. Maybe a stupid analogy and all, but that's how I viewed it, and it helped me to understand it. On the topic at hand, I just got done watching Shakugan no Shana, and am currently watching Blood Plus, and of all things, Metal Armor Dragonar, which is very good. I've been trying to watch the DVDs I haven't seen yet, out of a collection of roughly 500 DVDs, so I have a lot of catching up to do.

He made that kit about 2-3 years ago. I don't know if he's still on this site, but you can look him up and send a message. Don't know if he has any left either.

That kit was one of Ryuji's I believe. I have it myself, and it's a very cool figure. If you are referring to any decal's of it, Hasegawa came out with a MG kit a couple years ago. Haven't seen them in awhile, but they may be available on evilbay.

Hmmm, all the talk of smokescreens is making it quite hard to navigate, hahaha. Kevin's job has been to set up conventions that tell of no new big news, only create those smokescreens to keep people diverted from the hard facts. In going back to the year before Shadow Chronicles came out, Kevin had this big explanation of why they didn't have a distributor. The quote was more or less... "We want to seperate the wheat from the chaff, and the distributor we want is going to get Robotech to you." Basically, he then stated that it was all the distributor's fault because they wanted to shelf RTSC for a certain period of time, then possibly release it. That may have been all fine and dandy, but what he didn't tell you is the Alan Letz was trying so hard to work out a deal with the big distributor (forgot the name) with alterior motives. Alan worked off commission, so landing the huge distributor would've landed him big bucks, a position that creates a conflict of interests of sorts. Anyways, they simply forget to mention the part that they (HG) screwed up. Kinda goes back to when Tommy threw the Waltrip's under the bus for the PTTSC comic flopping, or horny young Korean animators for the large boobs. Kinda like Mattel for Sentinels failing, and low budget on that crap they call Shadow Chronicles. Now, I'm not gonna say that it's all invalid, and that none of the other parties are at fault, but the focus is centered so much on the outside parties that HG should have a damn halo around their heads. Then, if you think about it, if it is the other parties' fault so much, perhaps HG shouldn't be in business, because they seem to pick the wrong company everytime to work with. Maybe they should just stick to the real bread and butter of real estate and foreign films, and get out of the wannabe "space opera" industry. And on the LAM news, you gotta figure that TF3 or 4 will be out by the time RT LAM comes out. Does anyone think this will help or hinder the chances of this movie being successful at all? You have TF, a somewhat household brand name. Jeez, my mom knows the names of quite a few of them, and will be even moreso with more movies on the big screen. Then there's Robotech, the movie that is a copy of TF (as how parents and many people will see it the more time passes).

It's one thing for speculation to be wrong, however, that seems to make Kevin and the mods think that it always makes them right. But you are right, whether the movies come out or not, going by the facts from Shadow Chronicles, they're not gaining fans, just making some money off of a poorly written time wasting feature.

Hey, just went to www.protoculturetimes.com (JT, or Zen72's site) Very interesting Random Thought podcast. Here's the summary After reading that, it all makes me LMFAO!!! Especially this... Apparently, being a RT mod means you understand how Hollywood works, and that's why if you disagree, you are banned. I'm still trying to figure out what they have been right about, when much of what they've banned people over, they've been wrong about??? Doesn't take rocket science to remember the "use of original SDF:Macross designs in new Robotech productions" fiasco, to see the erroneous claims that have been made. I wouldn't mind seeing Robotech revive in a new and ORIGINAL way (not using the pre-existing designs of MOSPEADA), but the trend and path that it's going on now, I think half, if not more than half the fanbase are not in unison. I think that in order for Robotech to come alive, it probably needs to die where it's at so that someone with vision can pick it up. Maybe that's WB's goals. While this has all been said before, the quote made me think about how highly the mods portray themselves. It's as if they feel that being a mod simply means that what they say is always right. I think that's fine for that site, but the problem is when it gets taken outside of the rt.com community, as it has several times. The more I see of the fans reading through these types of facades, the more it makes me feel that HG should keep doing what they're doing, in order to shrink the fanbase smaller than it is now.

I may be lynching myself here, but strangely enough, I find RT: The Untold Story, more entertaining than Shadow Chronicles. I've tried to wonder why...is it the nostalgia? No, can't be that, cause I don't really have too much of that to justify my position. Can it be,,, wait, yes, only because it is Megazone 23 with a choppy-ass story and cut and paste of Southern Cross and Megazone. Even still, the Megazone footage is enough to keep me somewhat entertained. With Shadow Chronicles, seeing it just makes me want to break something.

Anyone have estimates of when we'll be able to get this for download, and on blu-ray?

Every complaint from a RT fan that I heard this from made me think about this awhile back ago. Here's my hypothesis... My thinking is that it bothers them because they are seeing stuff that brings back the nostalgia of seeing Robotech, but it bothers them because it clearly isn't Robotech. I think it's more of a "sour grapes" type of complaint. If they saw a "verytech" pulling some sort of Minmay rescue, it'd be the greatest thing ever, but because we're the fans who get bestowed great footage, I think they simply find things not to like. I too, thought that criticism they had was quite flat on their part. Especially, in light of the fact that Robotech fans want nothing but to relive Robotech over again from ep.1. They want to see VF-1s, and they want to see things that connect them to the originals, yet they criticize it in a series that isn't Robotech, probably because it's not "theirs".

Thanks Gubaba for the link. It's so interesting that one RT fan who doesn't like everything HG is attacked, then for simple defense, is threatened to be banned. I know that's the narrow sided policies of the site, but even other fans are starting to notice the downward spiral. There were quite a few links over there, and what VFTF1 said here makes a lot of sense... It's not the case all the time, but a general guideline. Most Robotech fans I used to talk to quite often, had no clue about anything outside of Robotech. If the conversation didn't involve HG, or Rick Hunter, they were as blank as a new chalkboard. However, interesting enough, the ones that I'm still good friends with probably can tell you the Japanese voice actresses for some of the popular to moderately popular Japanese animes that never made it to U.S. soil. If RT fans can only equate RT to Star Trek, Star Wars, Pixar, and other things that don't equate the same, of course the views of Robotech are gonna be different. That's not apples to oranges, that's apples to squash. Those guys at rt.com are hurting.