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I agree. I think the rush to jealousy, then her choice to help Basara shows the character not only dealing with her own teenage characteristics, but also dealing with the responsibility of being a true member of Fire Bomber, and one who cares for Basara and her teammates. It's interesting because Mylene is thrown into witnessing something she probably wasn't thinking about, or wasn't prepared for, and instead of burying the negative, she turns it into a positive. Another thing that stuck out in this episode was how Basara not only fires missiles once, but twice. I like this episode because in all of its "fun" setting, it shows the limitations, and soft spots for the main characters. Once Basara fired the missiles once, you'd think his approach to non violence would've taken hold, but he fires a second time, showing that he does have a ways to grow in the series. Campy, yes, but I like this episode quite a bit. Can't wait till friday. Memo, glad you could check up over here. It's good to see you hanging out over here. If you do decide to watch M7 with us. I won't tell Tommy, promise!!! Seriously though, I think we're doing this not just to watch a series together, but to keep active, and open discussions about other issues that even a series like M7 can bring. Who knows, you may end up tolerating it, or heck, even liking it. Either way, feel free to read on and have fun doing so. Glad you're in here. Nice to step away from politics.

Yeah, that too. Again, it adds to the one-sided proposal. While I do like the first 85 of Robotech, I don't support the B.S. that it's become, and I'd rather not have to incorporate, or associate Macross with Robotech anymore than it is. Could it be that they just don't have the gusto to have big gatherings anymore? They never really invited MW fans to anything, and although the invitation does seem to come with a bag of alterior motives, it's interesting that MW would be asked to a Robotech thing to have our con there. Strange.

That was big of you Pete...really... In regards to this, I responded. While the idea could be interesting, it seems very one-sided. It's like we'd be invited to a Robotech convention at our expense, at the expense of bringing our stuff, and being thrown a bone to host a Macross panel. In all the years I've gone to MWcons, it's been solely about Macross, and everything related to it. I'm also not big on the idea of mixing it with AX. When I go to AX, I go to AX to shop and walk around, not really to only talk about Macross. Now, if we could get Mikimoto or the Hory Froating Head to show, that'd be different, but seperating the cons gives some people a time to get those that go to SDCC and AX money to save to come back to MW. What do you guys think? Am I alone in feeling this?

I don't know about this idea... It seems very one-sided. I know it's the 25year anniversary of Robotech, but that leaves a big question. Aren't you guys planning anything other than the usual convention tour? The plans of the 2010 convention for MW isn't set, but is usually away from AX, simply to be able to get some of the fans who go to AX and SDCC a chance to go. This seems more of like a small RT convention with Macross fans bringing all their stuff so RT fans can look at it. Then, to only have a Macross panel only, that's quite a retreat from what MWcon has been, especially in the last few years. It's not that both sides should be able to come together, but in such a one-sided proposal, and the timing of AX, it doesn't seem like a well thought idea. I don't know, that's just my opinion. I'll bring it up to some of the planners, and see what they think. BTW, I know a couple of you guys planning MWcon, but who else is involved?

After watching episode 5, I remembered this is the first episode where Mylene shows a bit of jealousy over Basara and Rex. I was having a discussion awhile back ago about how and why some girls are overly jealous. And it made me think of the end of this episode. I don't believe Mylene's jealousy was over the fact that she actually likes Basara in that way, but more of a jealousy over the situation. I was having a discussion with this episode with a friend, and we were trying to figure out what she'd be jealous of, and based on Mylene's age, it is feasible that as she's at the age of wanting a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, she could've been more jealous that she doesn't have that. I dunno, what do you guys think?

At this point being done. If anyone needs a copy of the DVDs, I'll be glad to help. Now that they're done, I can just disccopy and voila. Send me a PM if you need any of them. We can work something out to get you the DVDs. I can burn DL DVDs, but the time I tried it, I think I used an inferior brand, and it didn't work so well. Nevertheless, send me a pm if you need help, or need them.

Yeah, I've been a bit busy with work, so I haven't worked on it lately, but usually when dedicated, I can tab out a song in about an hour or two, usually less.

OK, to make this funky-ass cult moving, Seto, you have to wear a multi-colored snuggie Maybe Pete, Gubaba, and myself will wear the blue ones. Geez, how come those RT boards don't have anymore nonsense to laugh at? I hope our subversive cult powers make them all come out and start acting like morons,,, I mean normal again.

Do you have a pic of the poster?

I'm hoping my dream of a 1/60 version of the Studio Half-Eye VA-3 Invader can come to fruition. I know it'll probably cost quite a bit, but it'll be well worth it when I have it.

Indeed looking good. I have a question...For the finished product, will it be cel shaded or have the CGI look? I saw the character designs and like them a lot. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.

Any update on Zero? I know it's getting around the season where things slow down, so if you're busy, no worries.

Haven't even tried that song. I've been working on Ranka's version of What bout my Star (translation?) It's quite easy, just gotta actually spend time to finish it. I've got a couple of the Macross 7 Fire Bomber songs done, and DYRL (a version of it) completed. Also, a metal version of SDF Macross opening, which we horribly performed at MW con 08.

Seems like only time would tell if MH will continue or not. They did have the dark ride armor for sale recently on rt.com, but I don't know if that was a new release or not. I'm gonna assume that they aren't till I see a new ride armor. Hope for the best, but expect the worst, I guess.

Hmmm, how is your legions of groupies Pete??? I hope you aren't spending too much time with the cult, because the Hory Froating Head has called us to pay homage. The Gathering has come.

My thoughts on the value of a custom are pretty simple. It's art. Whether good, bad, or in between, it's someone's artistic interpretation of something they've seen, or something they've imagined. If the customizer/artist feels his custom is worth a million dollars, as absurd as we'd all see that, it's his work, and he can keep his art and value it at that price. I doubt he'd sell it at that, but value is in the eye of the beholder. I've customized a couple valks myself in the day, and thought they were pretty good. Many others have as well. But if someone thought they were garbage, it's not for me to criticize them. It's their opinion, and I let my work speak for itself. Any customizer takes a chance on the job he does. That Valk has a specific value when MIB, and when disassembled, painted, customized, and put back together, the general consensus may love it, reject it, or be in between. Likewise, if he is wanting to sell it, the factors at play are quality of work, the seller's value, and the buyer's value. When you break it down, it's as simple as that. As for the exclusive Valks that we have been seeing pop up, they make limited runs because they know only the completist groups, or those with a lot of expendable income are gonna bite on them. Good thing about them is that they'll always be at factory grade, and will retain their value more or less, depending on supply vs. demand. Bad side is that you usually pay much more for them. The same is for the stock valks I think, except you're getting something more common, and something that doesn't cost as much. This has probably already been said, but there's my $0.02 worth for ya.

I had two for sale awhile back. Sold one for $300 shipped, and the other for $250 both MIB. They were sold a couple months apart, and the decline of them was quick. I think anyone trying to sell them for more than $300 is gonna have a difficult time selling it, but then again, you were looking at one for awhile and almost bit it seems. Glad you got a good deal on it. I was never a 1/48 collector, but those, and the Roy Focker VF-1S weathered were two that I had at one point. I'm glad they went to 1/60 scale, otherwise, I wouldn't be buying VF-1s at all.

I'm playing catchup since I was at Disneyland Friday, and had to work saturday and sunday. I work late today, so I'm getting all caught up.

Pete, if I agree with your fight stupid with stupid, does that mean we're following your cult now? Do I sense a hostile takover? We probably should give them something to flock over and slobber over. With the franchise being nothing right now but a rumor factory, giving them something to stumble over would be quite fun. What's even more funny, is that even if they read these posts, which I'm sure they do, they'd probably still act out like little half wits. Well, if you decide to do it, I'm in. Hahaha, Like HIV, stay positive!!!

I'm sure one of the mods who hold their double standards would ban that person. I don't think the staff care...Personally, I really don't think they even care about the franchise they work for. I know Steve only gets involved when enough people bring it to his attention. Other than that, he's probably the laziest person on the planet. It's also the reason why part of the whole mess with their fandom is where it is. As for Dougbendo, it seems he's become the sellout that he hates. As I read several posts ago, someone pointed out that he seemed to be tolerant of Shadow Chronicles. I believe he had many choice words for the same show not too long ago. Ahhh, in all seriousness, in my profession, based on the facts, most of these people would be classified as 5150 (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Makes me happy that I am no longer part of the torn group. I'd be really offended and embarassed if I was, but like I keep saying, the wackjobs just make it funny. Too bad not enough fans care about the trash the few bring to the table due to their own mental incompetencies and personal issues. Oh well, keep the gossip news rolling.

Hmmm, from what I've observed and know, we all here have been our own voice, whether good, not so good, or whatnot. I guess I'm added to the crybaby festival because I have that tendency to piss off that side with no way of retribution. Don't know, don't care... I don't cater to morons or idiots. Seems that they just want to group all of us together as some cult for whoever makes the biggest splash, and Seto, that be you. I'm actually surprised that they didn't throw me in as a JT follower. While not necessarily that either, at least his podcasts consists of talk that reaches well beyond the i.q. of 100. I think a jealousy seems to be what sparked lil dougie to get all bent out of shape and banned. So, the little group of allies that was Dougbendo, Memo, and Pizza seems to have fallen apart? Makes me wonder why they even try. I don't think any of the elitist have ever learned to just play friendly. See what Robotech teaches you? It teaches you to fire off at anything that doesn't fit in your world. The decent fans of Robotech are going extinct. That's sad in a way, as some of them I got along with pretty well.

Man, I've been on this page for like two days, and never had a chance to read anything till now. Seems like a lot has gone on. I really hope there isn't a Macross LAM, EVER. I like the anime style, and think that a LAM would really only be a detraction from what Macross really is. I stand on the firm belief that just because something can be made into a Hollywood movie, doesn't mean it should. In the conversation of PTTSC, Dana does come off as more of a cowardly mess. Her first appearance in the Love and War comics (I think) shows her in Mospeada armor retreating the earth, in which again, that whole series is a retelling of the background of how Max and Miriya hooked up. Then, in PTTSC, she is shown in the cameo in a brief uncomfortable moment between her and Maia, which brings up another question...I know this maybe an odd question for here, but did anyone ever get a reason, or hear a reason why Dana's "sister" in Southern Cross was changed from Aurora to Maia in RTSC? It seemed like one of those "hey, let's mess up our continuity more so that we can show how much in control we are, then we'll make the fans like it." Either that, or they liked the name from Macross Zero. That's what I think, a combo of both. It's a C-O-N spiracy.

Uxi, did you go here to get the patches for those remaining DVDs??? http://asiandvdclub.org/details.php?id=31431&edited=1 Also, I finally finished all 16 DVDs and they work perfectly.

These poor people with nothing to do except try to rationalize something that makes no sense, then try to substantiate it as to why an almost 30 year old series is better. What makes it even more funny is the fact that it's all done for a couple fans who actually care enough to keep up with it. I like keeping up with it for the sake of a good laugh, while I'm sure those in the other boat are really trying to be as serious as can be about all this. Some RT fan's very existence within the fandom just scream "run for your lives" when they talk, or "damaged goods". Thanks for providing the comic relief.

I just got the Ranka book...Has anybody seen it yet, pretty cool with some new pics of Ranka, and a lot of writing, what may be in the first person. Interesting book.