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The mess and confusion Memo has, seems to be the interchanging of court rulings. HG vs Fasa seems to somehow been mixed in with the IP issues, and summaries of motions that aren't court rulings are being used to put up an argument in favor of the issue with IP rights. Even if Fasa did try to take HG to court, that's only, ONLY dealing with merchandise. It seems trying to stretch one settlement between a game company and HG, then trying to add it to BW/SN vs. Tatsunoko is the surefire way to keep getting this easy stuff to figure out, so damn complicated. Also, what is the question that keeps popping up regarding the possibility of overturning the decisions? If curious, fine, but what bearing does it have on what is here and now? There hasn't been anything of recent that has been overturned, and no one has changed, or decided on since what 04? Honestly, I don't know why this issue is even still an issue. I know RT fans want to make HG the pioneer for everything and put them at the top of the world, but trying to pull diamonds from the sky on this is only setting up the fans for disappointment, not to mention, the misinformation pissing off RT and Macross fans, and throwing the credibility out the window. The fact that there are so many questions being asked shows that you didn't understand the history and final outcomes to begin with, yet Memo, you still spoke on it, and even banned people based on what you interpreted. On that, it throws those bannings based on this issue into question. So, now I have to ask, since those people were banned for supposed fan speculation, being "subversive", and being "misguided", were probably banned under something that the mods didn't even understand, wouldn't this be considered misleading and abusive on your parts? Tell me if I'm completely wrong, but if so, how do you explain the not understanding the issues, but still writing that you do?

Is it on Youtube? Nevermind, did find the 3 parter on youtube. I can tell whic voices are yours, Hikuro. The sound mixing is getting better. Definite improvement on the sound, but yeah, as i said before, not too big on some of the voice choices, esp. for Edgar and Nutuk. Nevertheless, it's still a good job.

So, episode 6 tomorrow???

Memo, you never answered my question as to if anyone was doing something for the 25year. I'm not talking about the panel that HG will do. For the launch party, you had a grandiose plan to have some big con or something, and was supposedly working on it. Is that what's going on for AX, or anytime, or is that not gonna happen now? That's what I was inquiring about earlier. I wouldn't expect HG to spend the care, time, and money like what Tom helped bring for Robocon 20. but since that's the case, and since you brought up having MW attend AX, what would they be attending actually. Is it just hanging out, or something that you or anyone else is planning?

While I was on rt.com as a fan, I was on here roughly the same time, as a fan. I could have many reasons to be pissed at the staff for them demoting, and turning a month ban into a perma ban, but the truth is, I could careless, andall it really did was give me reasons to speak my mind. I've been a pretty strong member here, and always will be. Even when I was a mod over there. What could be interesting, and a big help to both sides is, if Memo and Seto agree, Memo or Seto, post up the actual comments that got Seto banned from either site, posts that led up to it, and dissect each post. Then compare it to those that have other "offensive" posts, compare those to Seto's, and analyze why those are unbanned, and really get to the issue. Memo, I think the thing you need to realize, is that you and Maverick have given the impression, amongst many, that you both abuse the mod powers you have. It's not just amongst members here, who for the most part, just talk about it here only because it affects a couple here, but amongst other Robotech fans. The feeling across a few boards, is that if these members disagree with you, even if not in hostile manner. Since these members don't have many sites of interest to go to, have a civil discussion about it here. Your chance to prove those wrong about what's been observed and said could be done here. Memo, I know you don't have to, but since quite a few of the rt.com members you and Maverick helped ban are here, this should be a good place, especially since the topic can be discussed freely. I'd say that the issues should be discussed in a rational, civilized manner, without the flaming and over the top name calling that can arouse in such a proposal.

For $55 at HLJ, that means that for the cost of 1 regular VF-1, you could buy 2 of the non-assembled ones (or close to it). If you're gonna build an army, now's the time to do it.

If it was that simple, I don't think RT fandom would be divided 3 or 4 different ways as it is now. Lately, and this isn't just my assumption, but Macross Purist has become anyone that doesn't believe in the status quo of the site. People like even Goldie from rt.com have been labled as a Macross Purist, simply because they've presented something that is contrary to what is being pushed. While the lable by definition isn't a bad thing, I know on rt.com and probably on rtx.com, it's used to seperate those that are supposedly subversive from everyone else. In anycase, I don't think Macross fans define all RT fans as you say, Memo. I mean, Seto was on Robotech.com as a fan as well. Most fans of Macross like both, maybe just prefer Macross and all its consequent series over Robotech. I think the times and things people have shown to become most critical about Robotech are 1)HG itself, 2)Absurb fan actions, and 3)Lies, half truths, and misinformation. I think the rest of it that is done here is mostly for the sake of entertainment and discussion about the topic. I dunno, it's late, and I'm tired.

And let me guess, most of the more verbal speakers of these different sects of the Robotech religion don't get along?

There is that showing of Rex gang kinda in a state of shock after Basara fires the missiles. They were affected, luckily not injured. So, yeah, he did get lucky, especially firing missiles that weren't really aimed.

That term Robotech purist is a funny term, very contradictive in its title. Anyways... If there is a thing like a Robotech purists, it must be very difficult, as in all franchises I've seen, I've never seen such flights of canon, to non-canon, to partial canon story. The fans are so divided in what is, isn't, maybe, that to be a Robotech purists, that'd be similar to defining yourself amongst everyone you know. Everyone would have a different interpretation, maybe not in short definition, but to themselves. It struck me very odd when PTH kept labeling RT fans as Macross purist. While he has a very small IQ, no doubt, I found it odd that he was trying to use it as a demeaning term, when it's really not a bad thing at all.

I think in that light, it presents two points to Basara. It does show a contrast to his beliefs and what is reality. In that one moment when he fires the first volley, he saves the Rex gang. On that shot, he isnt aware that the chord position of his controls is to fire missiles. After that, he has a decision cause a few seconds go by. Does he go back to his standard defensive flight in protecting his friends, or does he fire again? He chooses to fire again, without weighing all the options. This shows the contrast of reality vs. idealism that Basara has, but also, perhaps inadvertantly, shows an area in which Basara is developing in, or will grow in.

OK, that sounds a lot better. I'd definitely like for both sides to come together. Seems like a decent idea, but again, it really depends on the itinerary. I'm not the authority here, so I can't say for certain, but I don't think it'd be any MWcon by any means. I was also thinking about the display stuff. That's a very risky thing, having collections at AX. If I was to disply anything, while I trust those that I know, there are so many others I don't, and it'd be a bit of a concern. However, if there's like a table where different people can sit by whatever they display, and have people come to them, that may work. Well, since it's early, it's all just brainstorming, so that's all good. When time comes closer, keep us all in the loop, preferably in a new thread, as this one isn't viewed much.

OK, I never said anything about any licensing debate being related to my comments of your proposal, so not really understanding how you took something unrelated into this conversation. If I did want to bring that into it, for whatever reason, it wouldn't have anything to do with something so unrelated. On your second paragraph, you'll need to be more clear on what exactly you are asking. This is why I asked if you guys were planning anything for AX. If you're asking Macross fans to come to a Robotech gathering, to have fun and all that, that's great. I think you know me enough to know that I'd be there. No problems there. It just comes off very vague, and full of alterior motives the way you explained it the first time. If it was an invite for MW members, perhaps the more prudent way to do it would've been to simply start a new thread inviting people. With my other comments (again, that don't have any licensing issues involved), I explained that usually it's more difficult to get some of the regular attendees to come to MWcon due to either AX, or more importantly, SDCC. That's why, generally, the schedule has always been set apart from that time. C'mon Memo...I've known you for a long time, and you likewise. We may have disagreements, but don't go throwing something that has nothing to do with this subject into the equation. If you don't have anything planned, and you're trying to plan something, I'm sure if permitting, a couple MW members will come by. As for a panel, well, for a Robotech event, don't know if there'd be many people interested, but keep me updated on the progress of it, and who knows.

You know, I don't think half the people who use that term "Macross Purist" actually know what the hell they're talking about. If you think about it. What is Macross Purism? It's someone who wants to keep Macross, well, as Macross. I never thought it meant you had to dislike Robotech, only that you prefer the original Macross over any imitation of it. Is that a bad thing? I certainly don't think so, and while I liked Roboech for what it brought for the time, I still consider myself a Macross purist simply cause I prefer SDF: Macross to Robotech: The Macross Saga. That's why, whenever I've been labled, I really careless. Actually, everytime they call someone a Macross Purist, it really says something. It says, "you like something that is untainted", unlike Robotech, which by default, would be a tainted show. Hmmm, am I thinking too logically in this? Anyways, I just had to comment on that. Really shows how much some of these people actually think. Yeah, I know that's obvious.

I agree. I think the rush to jealousy, then her choice to help Basara shows the character not only dealing with her own teenage characteristics, but also dealing with the responsibility of being a true member of Fire Bomber, and one who cares for Basara and her teammates. It's interesting because Mylene is thrown into witnessing something she probably wasn't thinking about, or wasn't prepared for, and instead of burying the negative, she turns it into a positive. Another thing that stuck out in this episode was how Basara not only fires missiles once, but twice. I like this episode because in all of its "fun" setting, it shows the limitations, and soft spots for the main characters. Once Basara fired the missiles once, you'd think his approach to non violence would've taken hold, but he fires a second time, showing that he does have a ways to grow in the series. Campy, yes, but I like this episode quite a bit. Can't wait till friday. Memo, glad you could check up over here. It's good to see you hanging out over here. If you do decide to watch M7 with us. I won't tell Tommy, promise!!! Seriously though, I think we're doing this not just to watch a series together, but to keep active, and open discussions about other issues that even a series like M7 can bring. Who knows, you may end up tolerating it, or heck, even liking it. Either way, feel free to read on and have fun doing so. Glad you're in here. Nice to step away from politics.

Yeah, that too. Again, it adds to the one-sided proposal. While I do like the first 85 of Robotech, I don't support the B.S. that it's become, and I'd rather not have to incorporate, or associate Macross with Robotech anymore than it is. Could it be that they just don't have the gusto to have big gatherings anymore? They never really invited MW fans to anything, and although the invitation does seem to come with a bag of alterior motives, it's interesting that MW would be asked to a Robotech thing to have our con there. Strange.

That was big of you Pete...really... In regards to this, I responded. While the idea could be interesting, it seems very one-sided. It's like we'd be invited to a Robotech convention at our expense, at the expense of bringing our stuff, and being thrown a bone to host a Macross panel. In all the years I've gone to MWcons, it's been solely about Macross, and everything related to it. I'm also not big on the idea of mixing it with AX. When I go to AX, I go to AX to shop and walk around, not really to only talk about Macross. Now, if we could get Mikimoto or the Hory Froating Head to show, that'd be different, but seperating the cons gives some people a time to get those that go to SDCC and AX money to save to come back to MW. What do you guys think? Am I alone in feeling this?

I don't know about this idea... It seems very one-sided. I know it's the 25year anniversary of Robotech, but that leaves a big question. Aren't you guys planning anything other than the usual convention tour? The plans of the 2010 convention for MW isn't set, but is usually away from AX, simply to be able to get some of the fans who go to AX and SDCC a chance to go. This seems more of like a small RT convention with Macross fans bringing all their stuff so RT fans can look at it. Then, to only have a Macross panel only, that's quite a retreat from what MWcon has been, especially in the last few years. It's not that both sides should be able to come together, but in such a one-sided proposal, and the timing of AX, it doesn't seem like a well thought idea. I don't know, that's just my opinion. I'll bring it up to some of the planners, and see what they think. BTW, I know a couple of you guys planning MWcon, but who else is involved?

After watching episode 5, I remembered this is the first episode where Mylene shows a bit of jealousy over Basara and Rex. I was having a discussion awhile back ago about how and why some girls are overly jealous. And it made me think of the end of this episode. I don't believe Mylene's jealousy was over the fact that she actually likes Basara in that way, but more of a jealousy over the situation. I was having a discussion with this episode with a friend, and we were trying to figure out what she'd be jealous of, and based on Mylene's age, it is feasible that as she's at the age of wanting a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, she could've been more jealous that she doesn't have that. I dunno, what do you guys think?

At this point being done. If anyone needs a copy of the DVDs, I'll be glad to help. Now that they're done, I can just disccopy and voila. Send me a PM if you need any of them. We can work something out to get you the DVDs. I can burn DL DVDs, but the time I tried it, I think I used an inferior brand, and it didn't work so well. Nevertheless, send me a pm if you need help, or need them.

Yeah, I've been a bit busy with work, so I haven't worked on it lately, but usually when dedicated, I can tab out a song in about an hour or two, usually less.

OK, to make this funky-ass cult moving, Seto, you have to wear a multi-colored snuggie Maybe Pete, Gubaba, and myself will wear the blue ones. Geez, how come those RT boards don't have anymore nonsense to laugh at? I hope our subversive cult powers make them all come out and start acting like morons,,, I mean normal again.

Do you have a pic of the poster?

I'm hoping my dream of a 1/60 version of the Studio Half-Eye VA-3 Invader can come to fruition. I know it'll probably cost quite a bit, but it'll be well worth it when I have it.

Indeed looking good. I have a question...For the finished product, will it be cel shaded or have the CGI look? I saw the character designs and like them a lot. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.