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Ouch, glad I never saw the bootleg. For the toysdaily link, does anyone know what scale the Orguss will be in? That is great news to see someone making more Orguss toys. Hopefully it's around the 1/60 scale.

Did you get any of them? I know there was a bootleg that came out a long time ago, but never got that, so I don't know how good that was.

When Orguss was coming out through Imagineasian, I just so happened to look at righstuf.com, and saw that it was going to come out. Luckily, I was able to get the entire series. It's a lot of fun to watch, and the story is very good. I've seen it through twice. The only problem I have with the DVDs that Imagineasian put out aren't of the greatest quality. Nevertheless, they had it out in a 6 disc DVD box, and I think it's the first 14 episodes you can watch with the english dub, or is it 17...somewhere around there.

I'm curious if Tomy will decide to renew the Macross license w/ HG, or will they ask for more money, or will it be business as usual?

Thanks, forgot the name. So, my question following is this...Will this change the gameplan of renewing HG's license? Does Tomy have any relations with Bandai/Big West/Studio Nue??? I was thinking about this during work (which is odd, trust me). Just thought I'd put a question out there and see the various speculations fly here.

What big company owns Tatsunoko now?

I'm merely just a worker bee on the project, but it is being worked on. With the changes from the Ace version and the Manga, that does put a little bit of a hamper on it. Nevertheless, I'll let the translator announce it when it's time.

Oh, forgot to add that I have the entire set of what this guy did. They are quite awesome. Razor, if we're meeting up tomorrow, I'll bring my laptop or bring a thumb drive of these if you want to get copies of them. You can maybe enlarge them if needed, or at least have a copy of them. Detailing the diorama from these should be easy.

I don't know where I saw it here, but someone made printable paper covers for styrofoam that has city building and SDF-1 sheets. Here's a sample of some of them.

If I got anything, I'd like just good health. I've been blessed with happiness, a wonderful wife, and expendable funds to buy the toys I'd like. I'd just like good health to continue doing the things I like and to keep my wife happy. But, if I do get a second choice at something materialistic, I'd like Santa to bring me the Macross Pachinko game!!!

It's really quite an interesting book (WITH ALL THE PURDY PICTURES). Whether the book is canon or not on the speed, engine type and whatnot, is it more accurate in the Mac Chronicles? I've been looking through this book more lately since I preordered two of the Yamato plain white VF-1s and 2 of the unbuilt VF-1s. I want to do customs with all 4, and while 2 of them will be the 2 MG variations, the other two I want to do in a custom that hasn't really been done yet. The various squadron markings and colors are quite cool. If the next book will look anything like this, I'll be very excited to get 2 copies of that book as well.

I have noticed some of the changes from Macross Ace to to the Manga, but overall, the changes seem to be somewhat minimal. I'm really liking the story (although a retelling). The slight changes from t.v. series to manga are quite interesting and help the story move along quite nicely. Can't wait to start working on the translations for the rest of this.

Yeah, I should've added that in as well. While it would be nice to argue more, the fact that he brings nothing with him is a waste of time. That argument does outweigh my argument. Oh, and Seto, I forgot about that segment. I guess BW would have a decent case if the show was made today, but back then, it was different. Very interesting, indeed. That thread really proves a few things. 1) HG and the mods have been on a defensive standpoint for so long, they can't even answer a simple question without wasting two pages on rationalizing why they shouldn't and talking about NDAs. I think all that started out with one guy asking about footage that was shown at some convention. Then it was only after like 2 pages of stuff unrelated that the question got answered. Still, the mods have taken a defensive position and still persists to prove some point that isn't necessary. 2) It shows that the mods really do have their own agenda. While I didn't spend my time reading through every post, Memo kept plugging away at JT/Zen 72. I'm curious as to how JT belongs in their thesis of how NDAs work? Tommy, Steve, and Kevin have really let their fandom go, that's for sure. They've left it to the mods to destroy the rest. It seems like the only Robotech fans who have been unscathed so far are the fans who don't care enough about the franchise. They've been able to avoid all the drama. Thanks Chrisk for the link.

Strangely enough, I wouldn't mind him back here to try and debate. His whole 5 posts amounted to absolutely nothing, and I think the mods had enough of his mindless babble before locking his posting privledges. All I know is that he's a nobody wanting to be somebody in this world, and he probably just needs a hug "Robotech style", with lots of Protoculter seeds and all that fluff. I never tried, or claimed to be anything I wasn't, but apparently he thinks I tried to start a Robotech following, and I've been banned way too many times. Now I see what makes many of you laugh so hard at this garbage. When someone tries to talk about you, you really get to hear just how wrong they are about many things. I just about fell out of my chair laughing when I heard all the things I supposedly do, and all the things I supposedly have done. Onto other topics like the Sentinel's mecha, I was actually OK with the new Tactical Battle pod. It's not a bad design, if it wasn't a straigh rip from the original. Of course, this was all before the court rulings, and it never did make it to production, but had it gone to production, could BW sued HG if they wanted to? (This hypothetical based on seeing those designs and it making it to the sentinel's episode they're in)

What made me laugh is that he was using a voice software, due to the fact that he couldn't read. Then when the voice software pronounced my name, that's how it came out, so that's how he pronounces it. You know, if his show actually just talked more about the Robotech, less of the politics, and wasn't so mentally withdrawn, I'd actuall listen to his show once or twice. But listening to him talk, you might as well kill brain cells. You have to, to go down to his level. I have to admit, I laughed my ass off when he proclaimed to have about 950 listeners on his show. We already know he's lied about that, and the one time I went to his show while he was Broadcasting, I don't think there was more than 6-8 people on there. That's a long stretch from 900+. While I don't care about the numbers, it simply shows that what is reality, and what he perceives are just about as different as east from west. While I've always been a Macross fan, I do like some aspects of Robotech, and anyone who talks about that stuff can be interesting if done right. The misconception that I, or we hate all Robotech fans is what they keep pushing, to make it seem like we're just wrong about everything. Fact is, aside from a few rowdy so-called fans and the HG staff practices, I have no problems with fans who like their shows. Even if they like Shadow Chronicles, I'm not gonna try to steer someone away from what they like/don't like. It's a shame that it's always the few RT fans who spoil it for the many.

I was over on a certain podcast, and somebody did get extremely butthurt, so much so, that all the facts of what transpired have all been changed. Supposedly, we are all scared and went running away, and supposedly, I'm a Robotech fan who fell really hard. Strange, since it's been no secret that I was a Macross fan before I was ever a Robotech fan. Also, supposedly Seto, you get all your info from me, I guess by mental telepathy, who the hell knows. Anyways, as I said before, it's good comedy listening to his so-called analysis of events that occurred. I'm sure he used every brain cell (all 5 of them) to come up with what he did. I didn't know I was trying to gather my own Robotech fandom, and that I've been banned several times. Hahaha, supposedly, I'm really scared, as if I'm trying to push some agenda. I must've really pissed him off something real, cause he basically made up about 90% of the story. Hahaha. you know, if I actually cared, I'd go on, but to waste my time on whiny-@ss crybabies is something I don't have the time to do. What I did notice, is that instead of actually reading the post on the podcast, he used some software to read the posts. And now, we have a clue as to the fact that he is indeed, illiterate. And now, the poor sap is schooled and back on his own rant. Great stuff.

Man, makes me wish I met Johnny Depp a lot later than I did, maybe I could've asked him for a couple hundred grand.

yeah, that was classic!!! I haven't used that line since high school. Thanks for taking me back a long ways. It's great to see that things are kinda back to normal. I'm waiting for someone to post about some podcaast of hate for us. I think we're so hated sometimes cause we're usually right. That can piss off many a trouble makers trying to push an agenda.

Freakin' A-right!!! That is awesome!!! I agree w/ Gubaba. I am envious of you, man. Looks like that was a heck of a lot of fun.

Wait, fill me in here. A depopulation I understand from Space War 1. Was Milia 15 yrs old when she got married? Where is that mentioned? If in M7 (the ep. I missed), I'll have to rewatch it.

I like the whole thing with Mylene being set up with Gamlin. Miriya sees that her daughter is now at the age when she needs to think about marriage (at what 14, I think it's kinda an old tradition). To me, it looked as though Mylene's reaction to that was more like a "do I really have to?" response. However, the terms on which they meet is very interesting. This episode was very rich with Mac II music, which I do like as well. I find it fun to see the "artists" of the various Mac II songs in action, especially Ultra Rave. LOL. With Basara, he still has missiles loaded on his 19, so either he didn't have time to take them out, or he is unsure what route he's gonna go. Will he need them later, and should keep them, or does he remove them. In this ep., he uses them yet again. In anycase, not much happens that's too different from the other episodes. Fun episode though.

What's interesting about the Grace costume on ebay, is that it's very functional, and represents fashion of today. A girl could wear that to work, and nobody, not even a Macross F fan would probably realize what the girl is wearing. Also, I'm not totally sure about this, but that maybe the going price for outfits like that. I'd like to see more Grace cosplay too. She's one of the more sultry women of the series, but probbably isn't so popular due to the fact that here costume isn't so over the top.

See, the sad thing, is that nobody will address that here (speaking of those from rt.com. They'll act as if they never read it, and claim ignorance yet again. But that's HG's MO for avoiding the issues, and that is how their more voicestrous fans skirt the issues...They answer the questions, totally avoiding the real issues in order to save some face. And it's true...they have only come here and just cause trouble. If it was rear debate with some substance, that'd be great. I'd welcome that with open arms (figuratively). However, it's not like that. They make a statement, and argument, and it's countered. Then they make another statement, avoiding what was said to counter. It's usually evidence of a lost argument, and they do it everytime. I'm glad the thread has cooled down a bit, and hope that it continues to do so. Robotech and Macross fans should spend more time enjoying their perspective shows, not engaging in fruitless politics that lead up to hurt feelings. Open debate is good when both sides can understand each other, but here, it's been an argument from RT side that makes no sense, and their refusal to understand the sides here. A surefire formula to lead to disaster.

I'm not sure if simply locking the thread is really going to help anything, either. As for the thread needing to cool down, I think what needs to cool down is the real antagonists coming in here spilling misinformation, ignorance, and sheer stupidity. It seems that the only time they come here is to simply start arguments that make no sense, and can't argue with any sense of logic. The group try to post logical arguments, and like little dougieboy said, he doesn't care about logical arguments. So, why should they be here, if only to troll and disrupt things. We've made our points, have shown all the facts, and have proven (AGAIN) that we're right. So, I say we keep the thread going, and mods either decide to ban those that are causing the trouble, or let them be, and let them continue providing the comedy we get. Here's the "issues" that have caused all the mods to jump in here, and I think it should be weighed on what to do with it. -dougbendo: Has only come in here to troll and basically trash the site itself. Any argument he's made has no real ground, and the fact that he openly doesn't care about listening to counter arguments proves that he is just here to troll and cause trouble Maverick LSC, well, I haven't seen him post as much, but the only time he did, it was deleted, then, right after deletion, he posted it again. I've usually seen people banned for doing this, and while he maybe a mod at rt.com, someone in that type of status should know what that weighs on a discussion board. I don't know if he should be banned or not, cause other than that, he doesn't posts at all, just lurks, so enough with that. Memodominion, Memo, I hate to throw under the bus, cause I know him, and outside of the politics and stuff, he's a really nice guy, but I gotta call it as I see it. The whole debate about licensing has been going on for how long now, and while Memo should be allowed to debate the issue, it seems more now that the questions he asks, and the things he grabs onto, are not really to debate, but more to simply start trouble here. Especially when he's ignored what multiple people have written on the subject, and randomly posts, avoiding the facts, and just writing his own opinions with no real facts. Now, should they all be banned??? I don't know. That's not my job here. However, when you get to the reason why all the mods have had to jump in here, it's mainly due to trouble caused by these listed above. I'd like to welcome these 3 to debate in a civil, logical manner that includes listening to all sides of the argument, but so far, the evidence of what they're capable of has proven otherwise, and perhaps the mods need to address the real heart of the problem, not the thread outright. I'd rather have this thread up and keep it all here, than lock this thread, and have this debate run rampant across the entire board, like what almost happened in the MWcon 09 thread.

"All your Sheryls are belonging to us!!!" Simply awesome. Sheryl is by far my favorite character for Macross Frontier.