Anubis

I want at least the awakened Unit-01. That thing looks wicked. The Unit-02, meh. If she was crouched down tearing the arm off instead of already done, that might have been a different story.

Let me get this straight: THEY'RE CHANGING THE ENDING? Did I read that right? What about continuity into ZZ? Kill-em-all-Tomino has gone soft? A compilation is supposed to be just that. New footage, yes. Adding connective footage to fill the gaps, yes. Adjusting the ending for time, fine. Not rewriting it to a different conclusion bacause you want it to be "happier". So they're altering his character as well? Guess this isn't really a compilation at all, but a 3 movie retelling of Zeta. Have to await and see the results, but right now I'm kinda skeptical about so many changes. But hey, we have SDF Macross and DYRL coexisting happily, so hopefully this'll be the same, and we can enjoy both versions as they are. This pic on the other hand at least, is sweet.

meh, Criterion Robocop is enough for me. I may pick up 2 some day, but 3 will never appear on my shelf.

One more lit up

If I build a PG Zaku I will swap the head temporarily and show off a Zeta Zaku just for you guys. Here it is lit.

All well said.

The PG Zaku II kits are the probably the simplest/easiest PG kits out there. Zeta is really tough due to the added complexity with the transformation. That is true, the Zeta's transformation added a lot of parts. In that case I may consider a Zaku after all toward the end of summer once classes end. I just need the time to paint the runners and assemble a Zaku, a luxury I don't have now that class is in gear. I posted a pic of my display collection a page or two back. I built the remainder of my new MG and HG's already too before I tackled the Zeta, as well as my SDF-1 cruiser/storm attack models. Busy month. After I move at the end of the month I'll post up my real collection with the new display case(s) I'm going to buy.

Rear. I'll may post wave rider pics after I move at the end of the month, but I'm not transforming this thing now.

Finally finished my PG Zeta gundam! Awesome kit, I kinda want a PG Zaku now, but I don't know if I want to undertake a project this LONG again.

After the mechafreak debacle there is a hint of the inquisition going on in the sale forum.

I already said that. There is still a bit of the flaps that wouldn't be flush, and the root wouldn't be able to go all the way back to where it's supposed to be, unless the flaps either a) retract into the wing, or b) fold vertically like DH suggested (wouldn't be perfectly flush, but looks to be the easiest solution).

How bout some pics and a review?

If anyone wants to try something with the Sharon pic, PM me and I'll get you the actual source .tif somehow.

The logo should be upside down on the gunpod that way it is facing right side up in fighter mode.

That was the same gunpod the CF used to light the Zentraedi guy's cigar with, isn't it?

Ah, DH saves the day again with a plausible explanation. So basically, the parts of the wing that would cut into the leg could just fold up vertically, and then the wings can sweep back?

Congratulationss!!!

For completeness, the matching YF-21 side pic.

umm... I wasn't talking about the 21... I was talking about the 19. and there is no debate. we're not debating.... just opinions and speculation. Oh, and also, now that you mention it lebhead, the max and min wing area are noted on the tech drawings of the 21 but nowhere in the 19 drawings are there any notations of wing morph capabilities or change in wing area. Instead it notes a simple lateral movement of the wings to it's high speed position. I'm not sure now. Your suggestion about actually folding over the legs or in an unseen slit is a good one, and plausible, but even then in the sideways lineart that goes with the detail overheads, it looks like the wings would go into the leg sweeping back. The back edge of the wings is already past the border of the taller lower half of the leg, so there's no more above space to work with. Looking at it again, there could be a different option. Folded, the flaps still stick out past the edge of the root. Maybe for high spped mode, the flaps retract into the wing. Not really a morph, but still goes inside the wing so the edge is almost flush with the root's edge. The wing root can rotate out as if it was transforming, then the wing folds, the flaps retact, and then to root goes back into place. Then you would have the right shape. This still means that the root has to move too. I think for the overhead detail, they didn't know the answer either. Whoever drew it knew the wings swept, but didn't know how they swept, and just drew the turn radius between points a and b. It's only shown up that one time (I think), and so briefly during the ep. 4 dogfight (when they flew past the buiding supersonic and the glass shattered from the shockwave. You have to look carefully to see it. Honestly, I thin it was a mistake to include the wing sweep in the design. Complicates and "anime magics" and otherwise perfect design. The YF-22/YF-23 argument is valid, as the 21 was the technically more advanced bird, but the BDI hampered it (the -19 rocked it in the Supernova tests). Thankfully the design was fixed, returned to it's manual roots, and claimed it's place as the new special ops fighter. I was very pleased to see the VF-22 in M7. The YF-21 did have a couple features the -19 didn't, so the morphing wings might well have been exclusive. The Q-rau vector control system was sure exclusive to that valk alone. Good idea incorporating Q-rau elements into the -21. Back to the YF-19. I say it could be morphing capability, retracting flaps with whole wing section having to move so the wings can fold, and then go back into place, or it could have just been a big design overlook. Either way. Here is the matching YF-19 side view.

The thng is though, even if the wing roots separated out like it was transforming, the wings swept, and ther roots went back into place, the wings would still hit into the legs, of which there's no slots for a swept wing to fit into. Just pivoting the wings in place is impossible, because the wings would sweep halfway into the legs, and engines. The Doyusha -19 had the wings sweep in place into the legs, and as a result, the wings don't look anything like they should, and you can see first hand how much they would cut into the leg doing it like that. Therefore some level of wing morph has to apply there. By change the attachment point, do you mean the wings slide outward from the jet while the root stays in place and then sweep back? Chould be, but then that would still require some wing morph to move the wing's shape to that pivot point, because there are no sliders on the wing other than the pivot point.

I think that one was Zod Yeah, it was Zod in Superman II. Zorg was the guy in Fifth element. Another great Gary Oldman performance.

I want a 1:24 scale Mk.II Monster I can have patrol around acting like Ed-209.

Now look at the shape of the folded wing in battroid. Note the shapes are different, and the wing isn't sticking nearly as long out of the root as it is with the high speed mode. The wings are simply folded here, with no morph applied. As for the F/S model VF-19's, this could be another reason for the shortened wings. For space use, they don't need expensive morphing wings. They altered the shape of the now fixed surface area wing on those models, and added verniers to the wings to give it all the manuverability it would need there. It has been noted already that verniers were added when they modified the wing design of the space varients, as well as the removal of the forward canards substituted by verniers, and the addition of the vernier ring on the legs. All the wings need to do is fold when transforming and that's it. Also, I'm sure they if they had a high speed mode on the F/S models during M7's trench run, Emerald force would have used it. Space use variants wouldn't have such an atmosphere specific item. The wings were the same as always, wheras the VF-22 was folded up fully when Max stormed in.

Since they only show the 19's wings swept back once (to my knowledge) in M+, that's probably why the topic wasn't addressed very deeply. A swept back -19 is so rare. The YF-21 and VF-22 (in M7) are shown several times in high speed mode with the wings and tailfins folded. I think the 19s wings are able to morph as well, similar to how the 21's wing morph where the wings change surface area and shape, but on the -19 the morphing capability only serves for high speed mode, altering the shape of the wings so they are able to sweep back at that angle, and not cut into the leg. Looking at this lineart, the wings are perfectly flush, almost forming a triangle with the wing root section, also note the slope of the wing, and how far the wing extends back. The tips are even slightly past the engine. There's no way to achieve that stremlined a shape without some level of morph in the wing to reduce the surface area.

The YF-21