Anubis

Because Organa has the Droid's memories wiped.

New info from Gunota

Holy crap.

The problem I have with that is that Athrun left Orb to go to PLANT to find out what was going on. He wasn't there, so how could she talk to him. Especially since the EA attacked. He shouldn't be upset with her. If he actually trusted her, he would actually assume there had to be some reason this took place. If he didn't have any faith in her or felt she wouldn't do something like this withotu reason, after she accept his offer, then he should never have asked her to marry him. He clearly wasn't ready then if he's hold that against her. Again, if he's her body guard, then he should know how Orb's goverment works. He's around her all the time. He should know that she can't simply make a decision and expect everyone to agree. With that he shouldn't be blaming her. He knows she's inexperienced and young. A good leader doesn't always do what he or she wants but what is good for the country and it's people. Those are hard decisions that can't be made based on emotion alone. Something she's learned from SEED, that she can't simply act on emotion. She's being forced to grow and has a lot of responsiblity, a lot of which she wasn't ready for I believe. Athrun has never been in that position, so her judging her doesn't make sense I feel. After all, he had Rau and his father to order and direct where his life was headed. He joined the Three Ship Alliance after Lacus directed him and when he had no choice cause his father shot him. He is FAITH, meaning he doesn't have to listen to anyone but the Chairman but he stays on the Minerva, accepting Talia's orders and then goes as far to inform her where he's going when he doesn't have to say a thing to her. He needs to be a follower, decisions made for him. I think that could be why (though the writers and director might not be even thinking about this) he was upset that Heine died. It looked like Athrun was all set for Heine to step in as leader of the mobile suit forces on Minerva. Ready to step back and say yes sir and be ordered. Which is what he might miss most of all. Yet he tries it to order around Kira and Cagalli and I don't think it works that well, though he might think so. He doesn't really look at the bigger picture at times I feel. I think he likes it when it's simple. When it's ZAFT vs. EA, with believing ZAFT is good. That way he doesn't have to look at the situation as being gray and doesn't have to look out the box. I think he through everything in Cagallii's fact cause he simply doesn't know any better or how she felt at all. Or that he doesn't want to know how she feels or what she went through or is going through. My opinion of Athrun has dropped to an all time low. He could have been one of the better interesting characters after his experiences in SEED but they've just regressed him even more. Then again, maybe he's the type of person that never changes even though he might try to. Him mopping around in the beginning of Destiny I think had more to do with him missing being in ZAFT instead of trying to figure out what to do. I think he knew what he was missing but knew that he's friends wouldn't agree with it and that he could be like Kira and be happy living with Lacus, the orphens and his mother in a normal house. All good points. In the end, there needs to be some drama, so this is where they injected it. I do feel that Athrun could have went looking for the AA a little earlier or at least try to make contact to see what was going on, before the AA stepped into Minerva's fight. While they were docked wherever they're at for probably a few weeks now he could have left for a couple days and made contact before. Pissed at her or not, as his fiance he should have at least checked to see if Cagalli's ok. That I didn't like about Athrun. If he loves her enough to ask her to marry him (in kind of a wussy manner) he sure didn't take much initiative to make sure she was ok once he learned Kira "kidnapped" her. He's still way better in this show than the last one. I never liked him at all in the first show. Side note: Now that the Minerva has recovered the Gaia are they going to be able to keep it? Will someone upgrade to that Gundam now? That would be a nice possibility, and probably get Rey (higher rank) off the deck of the ship during combat for a change. That would suck for them to have it stolen again. I hope they show the crewchiefs recieving the new manuals again grumbling some expletives. Poor guys keep getting new models all the time.

Althrun was saying it was still too early to jump to the conclusion that it was Dullindal. Dullindal could very well have been telling the truth that Meer was useful to calm the situation since Lacus has more influence than even he does. Since Lacus was playing house out on earth, she wasn't there to help, so Dullindal played the Meer card, and it worked. She helped the Plant polulation calm down. Without that, the polulation would have screamed for all out war again, since the EA just tried to murder EVERYONE with nukes. Again. So far there's nothing concrete about Dullindal himself being the full bad guy (even though there's sure to be more he knows than he lets on, and the "where's the AA" thing is suspicious). He's suspicious though, that's certain. Coordinators attack Lacus, Kira assumes it's the chairman, in large part because he sees a new Lacus on the video. Kira and co. jump to conclusion that the chairman was trying to have Lacus replaced permanently (though it is a solid theory). He hasn't met her unlike Athrun. She has a bit of a "want's to be the real thing" complex going, but she doesn't appear to be evil or anything, just has an issue or two. Kira kind of came across like he thought he knew more than he actually did. Athrun's trying to help, he went with what he felt the right thing was to do, and that was take the Chairman's offer. At least as a Faith member he is autonomous and doesn't have to answer to anyone technically except Dullindal. All the AA is doing now is getting in the way, and the only reason they've moved is just because Orb is involved. Orb has cashed their chips in with the EA and there's nothing Cagalli or anyone is going to do about it. Best thing to do is send Orb home with their tail between their legs quickly, which would have happened in about 10 seconds if the AA hadn't stepped in and screwed everything up. Like Athrun said, the attack on Lacus could have come from the same group that orchestrated the Junius 7 drop. There's not enough evidence yet. Hopefuly when Lacus and Andy get their face to face with Dullindal we'll see which side of the line he's on. As for Cagalli, Athrun had a lot of confidence in her, and he's disappointed that she ended up too weak to do anything, and couldn't gather any support. He's also probably pretty pissed that she was about to marry Yuna without saying a word. Again, she was too weak to stop even that, and broke his trust in her. I'm actually not surprized he didn't give her a big hug right away. They need to have a private discussion eventually. Side note, anyone else notice how Athrun's harem grew again in the intro? Now Meyrin is in there too, so he's got 4 girls around him in there. If the Captain shows up in the 4th opening shot, worry.

A Sazabi would rule. But the top line suits apparrently "have" to be some form of Gundam, so it's doubtful. Though one could hope they break the mold.

The Red MS gag vid was funny though.

That's true, Athrun's had two Gundams already from the first show and self-destructed both. I'm wondering, there's the Nu-Freedom, and Nu-Justice, which leaves missing: Nu-Providence. Wonder if that might be Rey's upgrade. You know he has to get something with funnels eventually. Finally got ep 25. That was so Crueset and Dullindal in Rey's flashback. I liked how Auel's block work led to him spitting out Stellar's block word during his ranting, which sent her off in her own way. Something definately happened at that lab. The order to "cleanse" it was processed but the scientists were all dead too? Hopefully more info comes from this soon.

It was expected to get this ratting. Yeah, everyone knew it would happen, but now it's official.

Does anyone have pics of the HCM Pro Force Impulse yet? Also, I was thinking about getting an Extended MSiA Gouf. Has anyone bought this yet? Quality, paintjob, joints ok? I have a MG already, so if there's no real posability increase then I probably won't bother. I also have the Gouf Custom but that stays out no matter what.

It's official: PG-13

The first thing that came to mind was her screeching "I'll swallow your soul." (Army of Darkness)

Upcoming ep previews: Look like the AA will piss Shinn off enough to berserk and kick ass again. Maybe he does chop Freedom up to everyone's surprise. 29 will be interesting to see what Dullindal has to say.

Here's a HCM Pro Zaku IIF and Rick-Dom with some MG 1/100's, HGUC 1/144, and Ultimate Operation figures.

I'll stick with HCM Pro's for those two. I'll still consider a Sword Impulse GQ but that would be about it. Unless they make Zakus but somehow I doubt they will.

Here's the Red Rick-Dias and Zaku Warrior. Both excellent. Very posable. The Rick-Dias exspecially came out realy nice. The paint job is great. I'm tempted to get the black one when it comes out, but I think the red one will probably suffice though. While the GSD Zaku doesn't have as much fine detail, the paint is very clean and spot on. I'm holding out on getting the Force Impuse to see if they do a Sword Impulse which knowing Bandai is probably coming up.

The Nemo does look pretty cool. Guess I'll have to add that one to my list after all.

Hell YEAH! Doms (3 of them, maybe a black trinity making its way into this show) Blue Gouf Destiny and Nu-Freedom fighting? Shinn and Luna holding hands or just walking close together? NU Freedom looks better in animation, so does Destiny. No question Stellar pilots the Destroy now. It would be interesting to keep the AA and Minerva on different sides of the line. Freedom was destroying Zaft suits too. A Zaku, and what looks like a Gouf. Mwu could still be a clone, or could be real Mwu. We'll have to see.

That is definately worse than the creepy Burger King guy. And the burger king guy is disturbing.

They did seem to dumb down the Dinobots pretty bad starting with the movie. I found Wheelie far more annoying though.

That's not surprising. You can find satellite pics of Area 51 (Groom Dry Lake). They let it go because nothing useful is visible. All the good stuff is underground/hangared, and never comes out until it's nightime and/or the satellite isn't overhead. Any classified aircraft work on regular bases is done in closed hangars, never out on the flightline, so overhead shots are never useful at all anyway. Generally.

That's actually worse than the freaky Burger King guy.

The "only Mu and Rau" thing was for the first series. Except for the advances Kira made at the end toward newtype. While Kira doesn't have the ping yet, it's concievable he will at some point, he's already sensing stuff. Rey and Neo are obviously newtypes as well, and they took time in the begining to show off their ability. In space Rey was the best apt at fighting Neo. Though they haven't let Rey have much chance to do anything lately, hopefully that'll change soon.

I agree about the release schedule sucking royally. 3 month intervals is way too long. WAY too long. It'll take forever to catch up at this rate. There's no way they can say they need this much time to do the Berserk volumes. At least Kenshin is being released quickly.

I forsee this thread closing. Soon. This is a straight RT.com quality thread. Read lame.