CoryHolmes

Whoops. I was looking at the Anime Insider article, which is listing the best DVDs. Didn't realize I wasn't reading Newtype.

Making a hundred million dollars in total worldwide sales isn't something to really complain about. That's more than I am going to make in 3 months

Any idea when this is due out on DVD?

Doom != PG-13

Where are these people now? Oh, that's right. It's December and the movie has come and gone. And sucked, we can't forget that. /waits for somebody to show up and defend the lameness that was AvP Actually, I'm still here I stand by my earlier decision that it wasn't the greatest movie of all time, nor was it entierly lame. It was mindlessly entertaining summer movie drivel. That's all I went in expecting, and that's what I got. So there, take that (then again, I AM someone who likes Robotech, the American Guyver movies, Orgun...)

Does any of this "vintage anime" titles that are being tossed about even HAVE a DVD release? As I said before, that's what the critera for this list was, not stories or plots or whatnot. It was just about the quality of the DVDs.

This is a list of the best DVD releases, not the best anime in particular. The criteria dealt manly with the menus, special features, etc.

Heheheh. Welcome to my world

Gasaraki was alright, but it suffered greatly from Evangeltionitis. Far, far too much. The mecha designs were great, but the overall plot did nothing for me. I'll disagree with you on the mecha. It was a plot point that they had to be plugged in for power. I will agree with you on the ending, though. I feel Evangelion suffered from a terrible last quarter of the show and the endings were so incredibly anti-climactic that it's not funny. EDIT I'll agree with that, except for its ending. I found the last episode to be very terrible in terms of direction and writing.

Great answer! Can I borrow it?

If you don't mind old-school anime, Detonator Orgun is an oldie but a goodie.

I'm interested to know why you (and others) keep asking these rhetorical questions with answers already known or just don't exist (considering M+ had very few related elements as far other alien species goes). Perhaps I should be looking for a giant prehistoric bird in M0 (altho there's no reason or relation to it's exitence between M+ and M0). We keep asking because other people keep bringing the topic up to support their arguments.

According to Keith (if I remember correctly), whom I recognize as the most knowledgeable guy around here on the Macrossverse, DYRL Minmay was able to project and manipuate Spirita in much the same way as Basara. And you're right in that Plus has no mention of these sorts of people, which is probably why that's my favourite Macross of the bunch

It's not really that bad. We had a poll here on MW.com and it turns out that most people were happ with their Scott Alphas.

Says you. Gamlin was good enough, Max was good enough, Shin was god enough, Roy was good enough... etc etc. And what's the total effect that Gamlin had in Macross 7? Did he defeat the Protodevlin? Did he save the day in the end? No. It was Basara and his superhuman powers with Spirita that did it. Same thing with Max. Who did the most good in Macross 7? The regular human pilot/leader or the superhuman guitarist? Shin was good enough, but did he really do any good in the end of Zero? No. It was Sara, who (through some unexplained way) had "magical" powers of her own. All Shin really did was convince her to stop. Roy was a major character in SDF, which is what I said in my post. It's only in 7 and Zero that I see this trend starting. And in Zero, what did Roy really do in final scheme of things? It's just that to me, regular humans are being eclipsed by these superhuman/magical/spirita-using people in the Macross universe. Actually, the only way I'd buy it is if I knew who or what you were talking about

I love the gunstrap. Nice touch

That brings up a very good point. In SDF Macross, it was a military show in the sense that the crew, the pilots, and the civilians were are regular people thrown into extraordinary situations. And yet they somehow manage to survive and even win the fights. Now fast-forward to Macross 7, where it's not regular people. Now they've introduced the concept of Spirita and how only some "special" people can use it to fight and win, while everyone else is just fodder. FAR too many shows have taken that route lately (Evangelion, Gasaraki, Orgun, etc.) where the hero is special and/or supernatural in some manner, and I truely despise that. Now skip further ahead to Macross Zero, where it's obvious that Sara is a very "special" person with abilities and powers that far outstrip any of the other humans, with the possible exception of her fellow islanders. That reinforces the idea that regular people aren't good enough for Macross plots anymore.

Truer words have never been spoken

Not really. A story from the PoV of a destroid pilot on the Prometheus, to use an old example, wouldn't necessarily mess with the original storyline. Just add to it. Not gonna happen. The Destroids don't transform, and we all know that non-transforming mecha are just bit-players in the Macross universe.

I dunno, there's not a whole heck of a lot of room to work with on this beast. And people are complaining now about the apparent fragility of the MPC Alpha, I'd hate to think what the complaints are going to be about how a dinky little spring no longer works and that it totally ruins the toy and isn't worth the MSRP.

Yeah, let's see you say that to her face

Of course those would be the timeslots. When else would you air a kids show?

I find that to be about as supernatural as a stadium full of rockers or ravers being whipped up into a frenzy when the band is pounding. It's only supernatural if that's the sort of angle you're looking for and you use the ideas presented in Macross 7, about all that spirita babble. Because the only direct tie-ins Macross Zero has to SDF-Macross and Plus is transforming planes. That's it. Anything else is something the fans have to manufacture afterwords, with supposition, semi-educated guesses, and out-and-out fanboy wishes. And because very little has any factual ties to SDF-Macross or Plus, we're left to default to the closest thing to what we seen in Zero, which is 7. All this magic garbage (my opinion) that we see in Macross 7 is being legitimized by Macross Zero, instead of being a one-off in its own series. Like it or not (and I do not), the clown faces and giant space monsters of Macross 7 is looking more and more like the future of every Macross show. If that is the case, let me off the bandwagon now. I've had my fill of the story and it's one that I don't like at all.

My brother had all the Joe and Cobra planes as a kid. I think they're all broken and jammed into boxes somewhere. Now then, if they'd only reissue the USS Flagg...

Exactly what KingNor said. The original show didn't have any of this stuff in it, and while you're absolutly right in that it doesn't preclude it from existing, it doesn't lay the foundation for it, either. The Force in Star Wars is acceptable because that was in the storyline right from the start. Same with the mysticsm in Evangelion, the NewTypes in most of the Gundam stories, the magic in Lord of the Rings... it's alright because those were intrinsic elements of the plots and stories, not seemingly (please note that word) tacked on later on.