Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0

WOW now thats thrust ona super bug tim the toolman taylor would drool at!! I knid of figured as such. The super bug can pitch fast but its not exactly the world's fastest fighter. The eagle has a lot of raw power. That thing was made to do high spoeed and still be able to dogfight althought it was not the emphasis. eagle's just dominate A2A. I think it would be awesome to see some pilots do mock dogfighting with super bug against eagle. Raw power vs the instantaneous turner. Hearing stuff lke this rekindles my fantasies of a blackboard knifefighting with intenal cannon. Awkward but blackbirdsd RULE?!

heh hey graham, at least billy wong was able to design each mac plus toy(mostnotioriously known for being difficult to make transformable in 3d) to be perfect variable, something ateler sai has obviously failed to do!!! man that sickens me to know its a GROUP of people not just one sculptor!!! Hey graham, does nishikawa even work for yamato anymore? heres hoping he defected to bandai and bandai puts out a perfect variable poenix chhhhhunky monkey

Yamato always has achilles heel's with each release culminating in the not so problematic and BEST line so far, the 1/48 VF-1. VF-19 v1.0-TAB B Yf-21-one of the hinges was weak Vf-11B 1.0-hey open me aw crap! m weak legs! VF-1 1/60 line-ball joints F*** yuea!!! watch us danc---crap. Hey can you put my legs back on? 1/48-HEYYYYYYYYY BP8!! SNAP!! so yes each of yamato's releases has an achilles heel. At least wiuh the 1/48, during initial releases, and during its inception, yamato placed paper in the box saying not to stress BP8 out and most of us warned each other about it as well. so yes. Nothing is perfect but the 1/48 so far has been the most enjoyable and least problematic. But yamato really should make that part out of diecast or POM. what the hell why is it plastioc? *BTW who the hell is ateliar sai? and what has happened to our famed nishikawa san? The 1/00 Vf-0 sculpt SUCKS!! UGH!! man crap lke that makes me wish Billy wong still sculpted macross stuff!

HEHEY! uh perfec wha? we seem to have strayed off topic!! anyhoo hopefully yamato or soot BANDAI makes a perfect variable VF-0 with that big ass ghost drone on the top. cherry on top yes

guys thought up some more debates A-7 vs A-4 we all know the a-4 could run cirlces cround fatty here, but was the A-7 a better bomber than the A-4? A-7F vs F-8 an F-15 engine in the A-7 vs the F-8. Wiuth the added power, could the A-7F take on the crusader? F-4J vs Tornado mk 3 autowing sweep vs non wing sweep.....which of these interceptyors would fair better in A2A intercept and dogfighting?

yea thats from the flying fighters toyline! I saw the jolly roger version with that poster in an ebay auction! I had the sundowqners one but nver saw the jolly until the auction! Sure its old as hell and out of proportion but from hasbro what really isnt?(besides transformers). that was a GREAT toyline! I only wish tyhey reissue it! I loved how they had multirole weaponry and all in each set! Wrong places but still very very GEE. Hey david, since we brought up planes and such in this section, what do you think of dragon warbirds? Can they stand up to play? Me thinking bout the upcoming tomcats and superhornet/Eagle C model

hmm NOyhauser dude where do you work? IF your office has a lot of aircraft info perhaps you could shed light on a lot of aircraft that we don't know too much about!! LIke the super crusader, phantom w/canards, etc. I am not sure about teh F-86 taking the tomcat on. Sure it might be more nimble....but the power of thje F-14 would certainly give it the advantage in the vertical.. Turning match however......... well in aerowings II I was able to outmanuver them in a tomcat but then again its just a console sim. F-8 vs F-14.....hmmm.......operational SA goes to F-14....but its kind of unfair since it has 2 crew and a bubble canopy. AS far as turn fight I don't know. It would be interesting though!! Yes the F-14 wasn't made to dogfight but it COULD!!!! In fact all A2A kills in the USnavy with the cat were dogfight and fairly close in. I think it could fair well against the MIg 17 and 21....flanker and fuilcrum it would havea hard trime though. ME I really question if the F/A-18F can outdo the A-6F in the strike role. I have been hearing either it can't or it can. So boys....whats your opinion? I sure as hell know it can A2A better bu that is common sense. Me I do not really hate MDC>..just well as most of you mad because the superbug is replacing my beloved tomcat. =( in fact I like the A-4, and F-4 a LOT! same with F-15...and hell even the F/A-18...just hate it replacing the tomcat and intruder...(super) I am glad the missleer and F-111B died!! thhank god rhe tomcat was chosen!!

eh ya know alot of people say the YF-23 was actually faster and stealtheir than the F-22........ so yea if its made into regional bomber I DOUBT they would retrofit it with delta wings, along with the sidewinder bay extension david brought up, it would be more faster....so yea I don't think it needs delta wings. And the navy would LOVE the big ass wing over a delta so no mods there. Also., THe reason the YF-17 was ruined was because of MCDONNAL DOUGLASS. As far as I know on the YF-23 they just did the avionics. So yea airframe is northrop grumman...northrop kicking ass with airframes, and grumman OWNING with the MOST naval air experience. SO yes indeed the YF-23, to me would stil retain A2A role. After all it was made to do that. And I imagine and F-15E replacement MUST be dual role since the strike is duial role. SO yea....it COULD intercept mighty fast and dogfight the remaining planes and come out on top. what we would have is a regional bombing dogfighting ASS kicker. And if possioble, the first long range multirol naval stealth fighter. JSF range is not as long as YF-23 on another note. Diecastwarmachines.com posted pictures of dragon warbirds 1/72 F-15C/D and F/A-18F VF-2 bounty hunters!! very awesome!~

Cross my fingers & toes and hope it'll happen. *note to self, "Yeah right?!" * you know how yamato likes teasing the hell outta us now ...we can't exactly act like crazed fanboys or else they'll get butt hurt and not give us anything NOPE! long as their money is coming in yamato don't care! Yen over RANTS! money speaks not us!

to further your optimism, I hope they do show either that OR LARGER PERFECT VARIABLE VF-0 STOMPING THE HELL OUT OF THE PVC 1/100!! Something tells me they are neglecting to even use the revisions mentioned nor add missles. After all when 1/60 appeared we saw everything! 3 variants at first, with full weapon loads!!! VF-0? impressioon is.."do they even care?!"

NOTE TO YAMATO? THIS IS THE 1ST TIME TOYNAMI HAS EVER OUTDONE YOU IN TERMS OF RELEASE HYPE! 95% OF THE MEMBERS HERE WANT THE ALPHA MPC MORE THAN OR ARE MORE EXCITED FOR IT THAN YOUR BANPRESTO-LIKE VF-0. YES THIS IS TRUE...SOME FANS ACTUALLY WANT TOYNAMI'S NEW PRODUCT OVER YOURS! PERFECT VARIABLE VF-0=DESTINATION UNKNOWN?

Hey guys. It dawned on me that I came upw ith more debates stemming from reading a bunch of google debates. 1-F/A-18F vs A-6E/F Intruder II We all know that even ithough Intruder II has sidewinders and legacy hornet engines, it' s still can't outfight many fighters nor outmanuever A-4's, case in point, in terms of escort or A2A there is NO comparison between super bug and supertruder. However we should compare the 2 in the striker role...since the SUper bug is replacing the A-6. SO which is the better one?Range, payload, targeting, accuracy,ideal bomber, etc etc. Next up 2-F/A-18F vs F-15E. Made by the same company. Both dual role. Which is the better one? Eagle has more power but supposedly hornet's got more alpha. Could the hornet out fly the eagle in A2A? WHo is the better striker? This stems from someone saying the hornet is only 2nd to the eagle. 3-A-4 Manuverability vs F-14 manueverability Just watched topgun. F-14 ius big. A-4 is small. F-14 is dedicated fighter with lots more power. However which is truly more nimble? 4-F-22 vs F-18F. A2A . Does the super bug have anything that the raptor would want or envy? OR could the raptor whupp its ass without any problems close in? Both have good alpha low speed but which is better?

i vot ethe latter. BUT this ties into my theory of yamato making a quick buck on this POS while hiding behind the scenes making a big perfect variable to shut us all up and have a merry x mas after vol5 comes out. (if they are the sole license holders I might be right)

man they really dont give a shi* about this figure. No missles? what the hell? and no forseen variant protos as of late. Yep. Unless they are working on some big ass perfect variable in deep secrecy yamato ain't gonna garner much interest in anything macross 0.

that maybe true but it wasnt themselves who initiated contact, it was through the efforts of Shawn and Graham that we got connected to yamato. INitially before he whole toynami debacle and before George Sohon left toycom, this dude named JEsse used to give info and in a way toycom reps were indirect sources of info from yamato. It was a steady cut off. The whole revelation of future plans by quadrono and such may have gotten them mad for whatever reason. They are bigger than what they were, they dont need us as much, with the expreience they have gained enough knowledge to know they can make stuff that sells regardless of our opinions.

id bet that interest in the MPC line will die off after the shadow is released.........thje cyclones will do fairly well but when a rt.com made character like jack archer gets a cyclone variant and crap interest will die dramatically soon after......so BETA will never be produced. Think about it. In 2 years what makes you think the robotech audience will evbenb be paying attention? Not many I imagine..with all these delays and such. To me it was not a good idea to lead on fans about teh BETA to begin with and finally say in na email only made IF it sells well. Since there is that IF there shnoiuldnt have been a 1/55 alp[ha to begin with. I am sure I would be hap;py with a 1/35 MPC because then i would throw 80%$ for it right away.....but if the beta does not come out which i doubt will reach fruition, then the whole excuse for the small alpha being small to combine is literally a waste.

how can you say for sure? None of us have handled the thing, and those who have havent manhandled it yet for a certified review. Like many I remain skepical with good reason.

thats russian dude. The last side by side bomber the airforce had was the F-111. THe F-15E replaced it. And it had tandem seating.

what the hel?thats awesome!! what tools did you use?

I've got a feeling Yamato doesn't trust MW any more either. But, it's not for those reasons. scand is defintely right. yamato gets mopney regardless of whether this site exists or NOT. Fanbase in japan was enough for them to even restart the seemingly dead toy license and look what happened. They are going towards the japanese market, not us. We just happen to be kind of the sole source for info ever since valkyrie scramble's admin left to become a father. Yamato could care less what we say negative or not. "Boss desu, many fans want to know more info!" Yamato higher up"who cares? let' em be surprised" "boss they are complaining!" Yh"you see that money bag there? where do you think THAT came from? " Though yes this site is an important meeting point for macross fans all over don't ever think it is that influential to yamato. I hate to say it but the truth is the yen speaks more than we will ever do, and we been kept in the dark since what a year now? And during that year did you hear yamato get pissed about how we complain? NOPE! they simply kept going regardless of whether we bitched or not. So point is, Yamato don't care what we say and how we bitch. THey care for the YEN. And the YEN they get regardless of whether we bitch or not. It is true. I think eugimon and scand are correct.

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guys tell me, what IS the best ropbocop figure? All I remember are the old 94 robocop toys with interchangeable robocop III machine gun and jetpack and the copter i had as a child

dey tell me I do dis already and I did and I likey but not many do too! yea we did a poll like this but as of yet no other announced VF-1s(makret saturation)

just kuz they choose not to for very NEFARIOUS EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL REASONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS yamato does not want you it wants your money! and they tell me your money they likey!!!!! actually i dont think anyone really knows.

That very prospect means this plane will look more asskick then the FB-22 and makes me drool at the notion of it coming out~~~!!!! Drool....naval stealth long range striker...