Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0

Wow didn't know it was that big! Mike Murphy from BBI chimed in again. He is working on getting us the black hornet, as the one on amazon was SUPPOSED to be the black skull...however those who ordered it got the golden dragons gray one instead. He said there was no comment from BBI for the F-15 as far as he was aware. He also said the list of Boeing trademarks is very very long and includes outstanding aircraft from the modern area and WWII as well. BTW he basically said that the WWII birds they made were to get money to make up for costs. And he said there were a few WWII birds that they knew would make a lot of money and there will be more. However I think he was reiterating that modern jets are still coming in force..the WWII stuff is just to get some money easy. He said the Russians(MIG/Sukhoi), he said they are still an option and once again "wait and see". I asked earlier for you flanker and fulcrum fans, Knight I know you love the fulcrum, so I had to ask him. Heck I wouldn't mind one either~!...It's such an overlooked plane.

Hehe. Man I am running out of room too! I might get into the 1/18 scale stuff by x mas season this year.......and already I am realizing there is not much space to put it in. Even in my pad. My room in my parents house has a bunch of airplane stuff...My gijoe airforce is pretty big. Now that I think about it, its about TIME I took pics of my stuff! So this weekend I will post my macross stuff and my gijoe airforce. Speaking of MIGs....I know many of us dig the fulcrum...and NOONE gives it any love! So I asked Mike Murphy from BBI about the possibility of 1/18 fulcrums and sukhois....more on that later tonight when he answers! I need to buy FAST packs and find my 1/60 accessories...darn things were easy to loose!

Kumite sounds awesome, Hard Corps....not really. i'm itching to find out what war 2nd in command will focus on.

Knight, seeing those 2 seaters makes me feel like an idiot for skipping the later 1/60s! Oh man....your super VF-1D looks awesome and that ELINT reaks of awesome ness! Do you have any 1/48s? I can't remember if it was you or David who said they would not buy a 1/60. Are the 2 seat 1/60s higher quality than the single seaters?

2 people as in both holding the plane at the same time, or each with their own plane? Either way, I was used to hauling that huge and heavy gijoe phantom X-19 with 2 hands@ the age of 4....so the BBI jets should be no problem. Heck the A-10 is pretty big too...and I am used to it now as well. Nothing will prevent my fun! I am so excited for these things...only mad that I did not gain interest in them earlier! Knight, are you going to buy the black skull F-18 from amazon? I wonder if it will sell fast...the liveries never showed up on an F-18(closest is topgun black F/A-18B), but nonetheless it looks cool....and for 56$. WOW! BTW guys who have access to a BX or relatives in the USAF/army who have access to the AAFES BX', some of the base gift stores CARRY the BBI F-16 and some other BBI product. However you will not find the F/A-18 since it is a navy bird(crosses fingers for a navy NEX to sell the BBI F/A-18 someday). Also museums sell BBI stuff too. BBI also asked why the Dauntless wasn't mentioned much on wishlists... And they did say they are taking note on ALL of our modern and WWII plane wishlists! Just out of curiosity.....would anyone here want a 1/18 space shuttle? I remember how cool I thought it was even though it was unarmed...still its awesome.

David, you can add your feedback, I am sure BBI would take your comments into consideration. (they actually gave answers to my questions within hours of me asking!). Any of you who own these planes.......how heavy are these things? I like playing with my planes, so I am hoping I can fly them around with 1 hand and dogfight and such. I also recently asked the possibility of the "paper" planes of northop in 1/18 scale.(YF-23, YF-17. F-20). 318480[/snapback] They're pretty weighty for a toy. Deffinately nothing like being able to fly around a Sky Striker like back in the day. Their pretty bulky as well, so if you can pull off a one hander, then grats to you! 318482[/snapback] But still durable and playable right? I've been weightlifting....and nothing will stop me from playing once I get mine!

David, you can add your feedback, I am sure BBI would take your comments into consideration. (they actually gave answers to my questions within hours of me asking!). Any of you who own these planes.......how heavy are these things? I like playing with my planes, so I am hoping I can fly them around with 1 hand and dogfight and such. I also recently asked the possibility of the "paper" planes of northop in 1/18 scale.(YF-23, YF-17. F-20).

Knight they actually might have a more active schedule than you think...over @warbird-photos.com/gpxd(small scale soldiers..? I know it used to be groundpounders' xd) more BBI information has been released. There will be something the fans are BEGGING for released in 1/18 realistic scale...from what I gather it is a plane. And NOT WWII! So its modern! The 2 things I keep seeing on many forums in demand are the A-10 and F-14. Knight you should join up man, fatalist is there too, and we've all been asking BBI some questions and getting answers in a matter of mere HOURS! I asked about a 1/18 USMC F/A-18D night attack 2 seater and super hornet, no go. He said it is too similar to their hornet right now and if they do release another boeing jet(whom they get along with real well), it will NOT be a hornet! (crosses fingers for F-15....wait....F-4!!). I suggested ideas to pack a 1/18 F-14 but he replied they already knew how ....not to say theres one coming but they know how to pack it. The MI-24 HIND is only a matter of time...eventual release. Combat Command is purely done at target's request....it does NOT INTERFERE with the adult realistic 1/18 elite force@TRU. I asked about the licenses they got from northrop grumman and they said they have many from WWII and modern, but as far as which ones we have to wait and see. He said the phantom skyhawk and crusader are great subjects and again wait and see. He also said commemorative schemes are nice but not as saleable(I referred to the last cruise tomcats with vintage 70's liveries). He did say that even lockheed was impressed by the F-16(the last similar scale toy being the X-16 gijoe ghost striker from 94). I suggested the JSF and F-22, he replied saying Lockheed asked about those TOO! The A-10 was approved by Northrop Grumman. When I asked about a plane they would want to make if they had a trillion dollars, he mentioned the XB-70! I get the feeling this guy is a fan just like us not to mention he is a civilian pilot as well. Knight, I did not have a chance to take pictures of Slipstream but I will when I go home for a break this week. I did get the A-10, its HUGE! Bigger than the thunderwing, and makes the gijoe rattler look SMALL! It has the essence of the A-10....only complaints is that cockpit does not have good rearward visibility and the vertical stabilizers could be a tad bigger. Other than that it is HUGE and I felt it was A STEAL@ only 20$!!! The airbrake(which I doubt is on the real plane from my understanding the brakes on the A-10 are near the flaps like the A-6), is on its spine and doubles as a HUD for when you aim to fire missles! The missle firing action is fun. The bomb dropping is iffy but the actuator tabs for it are actually small flaps! Most of the small details aside the insignia and USAF crest are tampo printed on. The plane is HUGE. Sure this is for joescale figures but holy crap this is the BIGGEST gijoe sized plane in recent years. I thought it would be a bit smaller than the gijoe F-22 thunderwing, I was DEAD wrong. Now that I think about it..it might be bigger than BBI's 1/18 P-51! The rattler looks like a commercial private plane compared to this thing...the minute I saw it on my shelf assembled I thought"man this is a huge ass bomber". My gripes? Its thick in some areas....and stabilizers vertical are too short. Has the stabilizers been lengthened and the fueselage stretched, it would be GREAT! Overall? I LOVE it! Its not the best, but for a 20$ plane what can you expect? Its more realistic than most of the joescale planes.....its got a detailed cockpit display, small throttle and joystick! OH the canopy is TWO PIECE! And the frames are PAINTED! With my gijoe planes I always felt my joes looked like they were sitting in planes too small for them. This plane is DEFINITELY a good size....as it really looks like he is sitting in a plane. Oh yea the landing gear is too small. But again if your an A-10 nut and like the joescale stuff like mee, then this is a DEFINITE buy! rattler seemed too thin. This seems a bit big. The 21st century 1/18 looked perfect before it got scrapped. But for 20$? my god...I could not believe it! The thunderwing was 10$ more and its SMALLER and not as DETAILED nor as faithful to the real plane! So to me I am satisfied(the only thing that came close was this big A-10 from the late 80s that was diecast and had a pilot figure and bomb dropping action....there was also an F-15 in that series as well..anyone know the name?). The pilot is a throwaway just replace him with slipstream or ace and your good to go! *FORGOT...but anyone remember the San Diego Comic con last year? Well there were a few "black skull" BBI F/A-18s there for sale. But now production versions are on sale@amazon for 56$!!!!!!!!!!!!! HERE IS THE link! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...6260943-1324639 *

Knight, I found a couple of customized rattlers to A-10s over at joecustoms...still up. heres a gray one. http://joecustoms.com/customs/customs_spec...d=vehicle&id=83 If I remember right, he sanded off the rims for the gunner canopy, and filled in the hole with putty. Then painted over. There is a couple others in the joe and cobra sections of the vehicles section. LOTS of rattlers in specialized camo. The Conquest II custom is very interesting....PTE F-18 smashed togethere with a conquest. Ends up looking like a would be F-18 made by the chinese(kind of resembles the FC-1). The more I look at the BBI A-10 the more I think this is meant to fit in with the gijoe F-22 thunderwing(which I heard is UBERclearanced at target for either 15$ or LESS!...which is a steal considering the pilot, slipstream is a great mold, and it is one of the HEAVIEST gimmick laden joe planes...and yes its got a good heft to it and interesting gimmick...kind of like the old ghoststriker X-16). I mean the thunderwings got a sensor pod on the bottom to conceal its missle launcher exit, and its got a loading bay for the rotary missle launcher, not to mention a fold in joystick, light and sounds, and bomb dropping.(but unlike the A-10 its got a unique target sighting gimmick which is more advanced compared to the ol ghost strikers'). The BBI A-10s got the same stuff! But instead of a rotary launcher...a missle magazine. But a way more detailed cockpit! Not to mention both planes looks scrunched up...so the A-10 fits ! Yea I probably will buy it. That reminds me.. Knight and anyone else....any of you have the gijoe storm eagle and cobra liquidator? Both were very cheap water squirting gijoe planes. The Storm eagle was an underscaled YF-23 and the liquidator a SAAB draken. Nonetheless their proportions were better than the gijoe tigerhawk and I kind of regret not buying them, the sky rave, and the X-16 ghost striker.

http://www.joecustoms.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=28858 Links to the new pics! Now had this thing been a lot longer...I think it would have looked a LOT better. As it stands it looks okay....in some respects better than the rattler, in some respects definitely not. Nonetheless it has more of an A-10 feel but it is a little too thick and compressed. Nonetheless it looks big and to me is definitely worth the 20$. I'll probably pick it up sometime. I HOPE they do a joescale F-14 with much better proportions. Or a F-16 and MIG-29.

What the hell? Sundown is right, I agree with part with what LordSixx says. Western artists drawing anime/manga always seems to miss something (even my work is like that). But hell, I do want to be an anime/manga artist, I wouldn't even consider drawing in any other style. And I'm gonna keep drawing in manga style until I master it and make it look genuine. You're more than welcome to give constructive criticisms on the artwork here, but if you come in just to insult people you can f*ck off. If you like starting flame wars so much, go make a macross 7 thread or something. 317125[/snapback] The reason some western artists can't "ddo" manga and anime right is due to the fact that they percieve it as simply a style rather than a "way". If you look at Lone Wolf and Cub and Blade of the Immortal..and many other manga, they do not look like the stereotypical manga with big eyes simplistic linework and plain visuals. ALL manga share something in common, style has NOTHING to do with it. Manga for the most part is telling a visual story in a fast pace...the reader has to get what the hell is happening in that one panel and his or her eyes have to be able to "flow" to the next panel easily. Where as western comics such as marvel and DC(aside their manga licenses) can take their time for stories, manga is meant to be read and understood RIGHT away. Remember in japan a lot of manga is produced in a faster rate than american comics...and are put out faster. Not to mention are read on the daily subway ride to work by many businessmen. This does not mean that all the stories in manga have to be rushed and every issue needs a definite beginning and "happily ever after" ending, but that the story visuals have to be UNDERSTOOD faster and as a consenquence, read faster at the same time. Not speed reading, but its a whole mental thing. Say for example I draw a guy hitting a baseball with a bat, if I were to do an americanized comic, I would show the steps of hitting the ball, whereas if I were to do a manga, I might just have one panel showing the ball already hit, and the bat with "delayed" speed lines conveying the notion that it just hit the ball. That's basically the jist of it, not everything has to happen immediately, but your art has to HIT the viewer immediately, he has to know whats going on the minute he sees the panel. It is painfully obvious to see those doing manga right and those who do it wrong. Just because it may resemble anime may not dictate nor define it being manga. And doing something like big anime eyes is only done well when someone KNOWS the reasons behind it(this case being that if a main character is relatively short....in reality the eyes would be small but on screen it would be very hard to see the eyes...hence the notion of big eyes). Anime stylistic stuff can only be done right once one knows when and where to do things...like shading..on a dark side not on a light, et al. And it does not matter if you are japanese or not, samurai m's comments are totally correct,lord sixx's is very very wrong, and there are a good number of american artists who can do anime and manga right. Bake, poli, TWDC, BOB, and many others here are doing a good job. And they post frequently and get along pretty well..not to mention have a lot off art here. Lord sixx posts here, calls us all wannabes, but where is HIS art? *not trying to flame but I am trying to prove a point here* Anyways sorry for not adding any drawings yet guys..but there WILL be some once I finish this darn bio class. grrrr

Graham, zincpanic also has the following... Lets hope this thing really DOES have diecast~! And Kensei its still pretty early to say whether or not it will have diecast later on. Zincpanic is pretty reliable as is macross compendium, however things do change(anyone remember yamato going back and forth between 1/72 and 1/60 scales for the VF-1 WAYYY back in 2001 before finally deciding to go for 1/60? ) So in this case I think zincpanic is right....Least I hope so! And Nishikawa(FLEX) was also working on the yamato Votom's stuff...which got really high reviews. Since the missles are not listed to be included I'm inclined to believe accessory kits will come out. This might make everything cheaper since there will be less tooling needed for the VF-0 mold.....the accessory kit and missles might just share 1 whole mold. Not to mention steel tooling for molds costs a TON! This might also keep parts for an accessory kit down. But I kinda want missles with my fighter included.... Oh well we are still close to a year away! So things change people...lets hope for the better!

While I too would love some MII toys, you guys have to remember Kawamori's got creators rights. It's kind of like Katsushiro Nightow of Trigun, if he does not like a trigun product, it will not come out. Kawamori has stated before that he does not like Macross II. Macross II did not do that well in japan either. If the creator does not like it, then how are fans to get macross II toys? Plus if it did not do that well in japan(macross plus is on the radar a lot more than II is), why would a company risk tooling expensive ass molds for a product a lot of people in japan may not care for? I would love macross II valks, they are slender and different and very nice. But will we see them? i doubt it. 316106[/snapback] 316109[/snapback] Macross II is not Kawamori but he is the original creator of Macross. Not to mention you act as if demand in japan is high for macross II stuff, which I very much doubt, otherwise we would have had more merchandise and artbook reissues and special edition DVDs and crap. What do you see when you see macross in japan? DYRL DVDs, music CDs, macross plus stuff, some macross 7, some macross 0....wheres macross II? It's not that big man. Like I said I would love to see mac II stuff but the probability of it happening is slim IMHO. Heres a quote from one of Graham's 2003 newsletters. Note that the news is TWO years old at this point, and a LOT of things can happen in a matter of just one month. So again, I doubt we will see a VF2SS.

The 1/48 FP kit box wasn't oversized though.

While I too would love some MII toys, you guys have to remember Kawamori's got creators rights. It's kind of like Katsushiro Nightow of Trigun, if he does not like a trigun product, it will not come out. Kawamori has stated before that he does not like Macross II. Macross II did not do that well in japan either. If the creator does not like it, then how are fans to get macross II toys? Plus if it did not do that well in japan(macross plus is on the radar a lot more than II is), why would a company risk tooling expensive ass molds for a product a lot of people in japan may not care for? I would love macross II valks, they are slender and different and very nice. But will we see them? i doubt it.

I certainly hope we get a VF-0D . It might be easier for yamato to sculpt..actually it SHOULD BE. The wings are bigger and have a wider area, not to mention they barely even sweep like the wings on the 0S and A do. Not to mention if they tool a 2 seat cockpit, they can also use that cockpit, smack it onto 0S or A model, and BAM we get a VF-0B!!! With 4 variations already just using different head molds and parts you have 4 different versions ASIDE from repaints! So with the VF-0 we could recieve the following. 1-VF-0S 2-VF-0A Shin(wasn't this a grayish blue?) 3-VF-0A cannon fodder(with inverse black skull tail logo or other) 4-VF-0B based on special hase kit "test type liveries" (critical wing?) 5-VF-0B cannon fodder 6-VF-0D Shin 7-VF-0D gray. Now boys that is SEVEN different VF-0's that yamato can milk based on already existing designs(liveries). Then 1-SV-51 DD 2-SV-51 Nora 3-SV-51 CF 4-SV-52-mentioned for the anime but not shown but hell it was probably already designed....if yamato needs to make more profit to cover cost of tooling the SV-51 mold and to compensate for having so many more VF-0's, they can simply retool the existing SV-51 parts to make the SV-52! Not to mention 1-VF-0 accessory kit-Ghost drone, reactionary nuke missles, FAST pack parts for legs, etc. 2-SV-51 accessory kit-Booster parts and bombs and rocket pods. I imagine the accessory kits would not cost much being that@1/60 scale, though the fighters would undoubtedly be big, the missles and such would not be as big at all. So I see them at roughly 20-30$. So with this list folks we have a lil bit over 10 releases and those can darn well provide for nearly a whole year of macross 0 merchandise. Assuming yamato DOES choose to milk the molds for all they are worth that is... I hope they do! Hopefully we get monthly scans and updates from dengeki hobby! It's like 2002 all over again!(when we were all anticipating month by month the release and teaser pics and info of the 1/48).

Its due to storyline. Starscream does indeed grow larger later(king starscream) on in cybertron, and his regular sized figure will be in a TRu exclusive as a repaint with vector prime in fall. The sizes are mainly in relevance to the show. Transformers one way or another have always been out of scale, the G1 seekers were like 1/80 while the autobot cars were mostly 1/48s. Then you get someone like predaking whom noone knows what the hell scale he is. For the most part, cybertron stands on its own and most of the toys are in the same scale as the show...for example, jackshot is not the same size as hotshot, and hotshot ain't as big as prime.

I duno I tend to think this is joescale. I mean there have been better examples in joescale...the skystriker and conquest and nightraven being the best examples. Even the thunderwing...though it is one of the best planes we got in the gijoe line...is not as joescaled and looks squashed(wide fueselage but wings not as wide as they should be...not to mention fat rather than sleek rather than the F-22).. This A-10 for what its worth, looks decent., I want to buy it but I too am waiting on seeing it in person. The only other one I have is the rattler repainted into an A-10 that was part of the 97 joe reissues. And like I said, to me this looks more like an A-10 than a rattler. I mean the A-10 isn't supposed to be slender...its a thick plane and armored. Nonetheless I see why people are complaining and dissapointed. PTE right now seems to make the best gijoe planes...their 20$ F/A-18 at TRu seems like a modernzed 1980's gijoe plane more than the thunderwing does! (Knight if you want pics of that F/A-18 I can also take pics of it next weekend when I go home).

Hold on a second, there is an A-10 TOY out right now, where man? I need it. Also does anyone have any extra sparrows off the BBI F-16, I would like to mod my BBI F/A-18 and hang them off the sparrow mounts. 315765[/snapback] Yes there is! It's at target knight, but if you cannot find it now, look for it after the reset which is this week. It's joe scale so be warned it is squashed and not to true 1/18 scale. It's got some cartridge loading missle firing feature and light and sound. I hear the engines are bigger than the vertical stabilizers...nonetheless I am still giving it a chance and want to see more of it. Other complaints are that it tips back on its small landing gear since the weight is mainly towards the back. Here is an intial report from firefox 91 Nonetheless I am used to joescale...and for 20$ I don't think anyone expected a huge true to scale 1/18 scale bird like the cancelled 1/18 A-10 from 21st century toys. I liked the PTE F/A-18 and the gijoe thunderwing even if they were "joescale".*Knight, I still remember you asking for pics of slipstream...I will take pics and post them sometime next week for you!...He is one of the greatest sculpt figures in gijoe...and the BEST pilot figure they have EVER made!* Besides a 1/18 scale A-10 would be a lot more than 20$...so if you enjoy joescale stuff then I suppose you would not mind the A-10. For what its worth I tend to think it looks BETTER at this point, than the cobra rattler...which though I do love it, looks like a tadpole with wings. And from what the box pic shows...it can't look that bad...I hope. Any of you who get it please post a pic! heres a link http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ekbarco/deta...21e.jpg&.src=ph

fatalist try asking around@ warbird-photos.com/gpxd. Some of them have multiple 1/18 BBI birds...and I'm sure someone over theres got to have some spares available. Not to mention thats the site I get most of my 1/18 info at.

deja vu. I made a 1/55 gallery thread montths back..

Toonz..in relation the actual body I do not think this matters as much as the 1/48. They are bigger...not as tiny looking as the 1/48 "skeleton" hands. Now also...the hands do NOT have to fold or retract in the transformation...if I remember right. Therefore they do not have to be too small unlike the 1/48. Nani the VF-1 is high powered and lighter, the VF-0 is heavier and underpowered. The YF-21 and YF-19 had bigger surfaces and contained more sensors and advanced weapon systems not to mention aerodynamically they seem to be a lot more manueverable(mugh like the huge YF-23 compared to the relatively small F-16). Small size is not ALWAYS an advantage(I'd take a YF-23 into combat over an F-16), it's actually a limiter in some cases, but the VF-1 didn't ned to be all that big to fullfill its role and it could fulfill it better than the VF-0 due to its advancements in design and sensors. had the VF-0 been SLEEKER, had better engines, and the VF-1's sensors, THEN I would say the VF-1 would be inferior. My comparison was mainly based on aerodynamics and power, not so much size.

Badcataviation.com seems to have the best prices right now man. BBTS comes to a close 2nd. The thing about badcat, is that they get exclusive decos from time to time(the Blue angels 1/18 F/A-18s, the ANG and other 11 different decal F-16s, some exclusive 21st century paint decos, and the newest P-51 redeco...along with a proposed 1/18 F/A-18 in CAG red devils markings from BBI). Apparently badcat is also one of the biggest stockers of the 1`/18 jet lines and he even made it to the news papers at one point during x mas. Fatalist how about some reviews and pics man? I want to see your 1/18 collection~! I too hope they make an F-14. The F-15 and F-14 would do very well IMHO. I mean come on..the cat's retirement is next year, fans are gonna go nostalgic and want something to relive their memories. The F-15 will be around for a long while and is very very popular. Not to mention variants and redecos for the F-15 would b very very simple to do. IF we get a strike eagle out of this...OMG... Me? I for one would not mind having in the fictiious Top Gun markings on an F-14 1/18 scale toy. Lord knows a bunch of us back then during childhood would have LOVED one! And still do.

Your just judging it by looks. While there is no doubt in my mind that the VF-0 definitely looks newer and its obvious Kawamori designed it in 2002 rather than 1981, if you break it down the VF-0 comes off older...primitive even, not as advanced. THe F-14A had TF-30 engines. They sucked...caused a lot of flat spins, pilots hated them, the F-14 was underpowered as a result, and it was not even supposed to power the F-14 in the first place!(the ATE was supposed to power it). Not to mention the engine was unreliable and though kind of groundbreaking for its time by all means was not the BEST to power a powerful fighter of that nature. Maybe a civilian airliner that just travels, not a mean fighting beast that has to defend a fleet and dogfight or intercept depending on situations. So years later the GE F110 came into play, the engine was the total opposite of the TF-30, it was reliable had MORE power, and the F-14 was finally not underpowered. Pilots were happy, and everything was happy ever after. The VF-0 has an engine that isn't supposed to power it either! It was meant to have the engines on the VF-1 but those engines were not ready in time. The VF-0 has a regular HUD. The VF-1 by DYRL time has a HUD imposed on the windscreen. Not to mention the VF-1 has the better engines. The missles on the VF-1 also have sleeker folding fin missles. The VF-0 does not. The VF-0 is bigger and presumably harder to handle not to mention heavier and undoubtedly slower(there was a comparison saying that the SV-51 was meant for combat to begin with where as the VF-0 was a test fighter for the most part....technology demonstrator?). The VF-1 has more booster options....and armor enhancements. All the VF-0's stuff are test things. Remember the key point here is that the VF-0 is an interim fighter in itseld, and I believe it was meant as a technology demonstrator. THe VF-0's got the stealthier aspects presumably. And to me I think it looks better. Looks and aesthetics wise...yes I agree it is better. Its a warhorse you look at it and you know its deadly. But component and technology wise? No. It's like comparing and apple seed to a grown apple. The seed is the beginning stage, the apple is the final result. Either way I hope we get more pics of the toy! This lineart has me drooling and it looks to be further along designwise(on paper) then tha 1/.100 did!

whoa. It was all there late last night. They did clear it up this morning though. Renato, most of the stuff was on Don Murphy's board. In the actual BBS. Then he came to tfw and made I think 3 posts. Either way Tony's reponse was up until this morning when he changed it since he and Don talked...well actually Don called him. Some is still on the frontpage but most of it really was on the boards. Either way the stuff is done and did lol. But yea it was pretty bad. In other news..SONIC BOMBER IS OUT~! Some of the tfimage board decided to combine sonic bomber with prime AND ligerjack...and it works. Not sure if this combo will make it to the show but who knows? Either way its cool and it can be done!