Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0

No prob guys. Effect you sure it was Tommy who pissed them off? I've never heard of this, care to fill me in? I doubt HG would ever try to incorporate macross zero into robotech. Maybe a few years ago but certainly not now, a lot more people know about macross at this point and from what was said at the panel the team really wants robotech to go in its own direction. And I think it should too. They made it clear that macross and robotech are different things. Sure the Macross saga was the first part of robotech, but robotech in its entirety is a different storyline. The beginning was derived from macross in japan but anything thereafter will be on its own. So Macross 2 or 7 won't be tied into Robotech. When they said Macross went in its own direction in japan they meant the macross series in itself in japan, not the macross saga in robotech. They aren't going to try to mesh macross plus into robotech or any of that, shadow chronicles IS the continuation to robotech, nothing else.(which is good, if they tried to bring more macross titles into the robotech umbrella i am sure it would make a lot of us mad). So if anything they are leaving the "source" material alone and going in their own direction. And they also said they wouldn't do sentinels again either.

I think its photoshopped with the clear canopy pasted atop. The pics look way too similar to the shots shown around spring on the toynami.com site. Either way I'll definitely pick these up...its bang for the buck, 20$ valks!

I know what you mean man. Its tempting too, since robotech.com is selling them for 59.99 now. I went on robotech.com and apparently the beta is planned for 07, some say later this year. Who knows. There is still hope, and if anything I'd love to get one in the 20$ pricepoint. I hope they retool the alphas arms for the shadow chronicles MPCs/

Yeah. That Thundercracker mold is all kinds of awesome. Pity it gets so much abuse from the fandom. 408959[/snapback] The only thing I did not like was that his attachement poins for his left arm and torso are not that secure. And his paint scheme could have been more elaborate...killer in g1 colors too! Other than that I liked it better than energon starscream.

Went to the recap panel today. More news! I asked a lot of questions that most of us want answers to. So here it goes... 1-Rick Hunter IS in shadow chronicles but does not have a prominent role. The Shadow Chronicles movie is Scott searching for Rick and SDF-3. 2-SDF-3 has been refitted...apparently they explain this in the "prelude to shadow chronicles" book by wildstorm. 3-Shadow Chronicles is the FIRST in a trilogy. The movie's distributor will be announced soon. It will be in high def(it was shown this way in Cannes according to Tommy Yune). Steve Yun told me that it will be 88 minutes long. So about a good 1hr&1/2 4-The collectable card game either is out or out soon...I recieved a free deck and instructions to test it out. The one I have is all macross....the artwork contains screengrabs of the tv series. Robotech.com wants to know what we think, but I have yet to test it out. 5-Tommy Yune was saying that all anime in japan right now is being done digital....well I guess the finalization. The drawings are done by hand then scanned and mass printed(I may have heard this wrong). Anyways all the coloring and such is done digitally(you can tell in a lot of the recent animes). *I am not sure if he was speaking of anime in general in japan or tatsunuko). 6-DR Movie and tatsunuko are involved in the animation. Tommy does know of Yukikaze(which btw holy hell was that boring, I saw the 1st episode today and walked out during the beginning of the 2nd), and DR movie did work on Yukikaze, perhaps that is why they sought them out? Rather than do all CG like robotech 3000, they felt that shadow chronicles would be better with the anime touch, thats the reason they enlisted DR movie and tatsunuko. 7-Most of the voice actors ARE back. The VA for Claudia is back as Claudia's relative...or sister...whichever. Actually I am not sure but its her relative. The Claudia's nephew or whatever from southern cross is back as a commander now, and he is older too. Roy Fokker's VA is back as a higher up. The VA's for Rick, and a bunch of others are back too. Tommy described it as a reunion of sorts. Oh yea Mark Hamill is Wolf Leader as well....or at least the commander of wolf sqn. 8-The RDF mecha in shadow chronicles is Alphas and betas...primarily shadows. 9-I asked about a successor to the alpha and Steve replied that there MAY BE a successor in the 2nd movie. 10-The SDF-3 looks nothing like a zentraedi ship anymore. 11-I started to ask questions about the toyline....Steve said he doubted enemy mecha/destroids would be made for toynami's smaller scaled 1/100 line, and went onto comment about how in general enemies do not really sell well, and then he mentioned how takatoku didn't really make enemy mecha toys when the macross toys were released eons back. Still I hold hope. 12-Steve said George Sohn is at a crossroads right now about the Beta. He asked if I had seen the prototype and I told him I did. He said that Toynami was guaging interest on the Beta from sales of the Alpha, HOWEVER sales of the MPC alphas were not as high as they expected. So right now the Beta is iffy... 13-I then suggested that perhaps and alpha and beta could be made in the new smaller scale 20$ line(I doubt that they would make them 1/100 if they were in this line), and Steve replied "thats a possibility". 14-Toynami will be making shadow chronicles toys/MPC's. 15-Toynami is still working on the cyclones. 16-Steve said they do trust George with his judgement of handling the toys. Right now George is looking at what will give them a good return, and the affordable 20$ line seems to be a good opportunity for them. 17-This is the reason that the VF-1 is in the 1/100 line, Macross tends to be more popular/successful in sales of toys for toynami. 18-Someone asked about capital ships and Steve replied"its always been on toynami's list of things to do but they haven't got there yet since George is still working the cyclones and beta". I think he said eventually...I am not sure. At the end they had a rook MPC for give away. They did a short trivia section. Me and this dude next to me tied 2x. Then Steve suggested rock paper scissors again like yesterday(I REALLY wanted them to go with Tommy's idea for arm wrestling....!!). Anyways it would have been tied but I mistakingly made a weird looking scissor with 3 fingers instead of 2 and Steve laughinly said "hey you cant do that!" He then compared it to the MGS3 spoofs. Anyways the guy next to me won. I SO could have won it if I remembered Marlene's japanese name in Mospeada(wasn't it Rose?) and Rooks Japanese name(Hoquet?!). Ar, I wish Cyclone woulda been there! Ah oh well, better luck next time for me! And in my opinion, shadow chronicles is just gonna be a continuation in a new direction away from macross and mospeada. They did mention that it would, and that in japan macross went in its own direction. Robotech had its start in macross but developed into a whole different storyline by the end. They also said that most of the japanese anime fans do not know of robotech. So I DOUBT that we will ever see YF-19s or YF-21s or any more macross mecha ever in the new robotech series. Maybe mospeada stuff yes, but not macross. Either way I left when the panel ended, happy that I got a lot of info, slightly dissapointed that I did not win the free MPC alpha(I like the red the best, and I don't have an alpha yet so I saw it as a golden opportunity). They also said Carl Macek did not work on shadow chronicles but did see some of it and he was happy with it.

The best recent jet tf was cybertron thundercracker. But before that, Dreadwing/smokescreen and g2 jetfire/hooligan were the best. Actually thge g2 cyberjets were the best for some time.

THe only thing from macross is the flying kite on the logo. or maybe that was just on the free pins they gave out yesterday. No VF-1 to be seen. BTW the story is scott searching for Rick Hunter, and from what was said, I think he does find him. SDF-4 is in this as well. They didn't say when the 1/100 would be released but they are set for summer, and being that one is an SDCC exclusive, I imagine fairly soon they will come out in mass market.

Ok fellas I just got back from AMA and I did visit the panel. Here is the news. 1-Steve Yun and Tommy Yune said that "Shadow Chronicles" is DONE and just waiting for the distributor. They do not want to announce who just yet...but basically they just need the ink on the paper so to speak. I forgot to ask "Why not ADV?" 2-The 1/100 line is made in an effort to reach a wider market than the masterpieces at a much more affordable price. Turns out the design team Thinks the sculpting on the 1/100's are superior to that of the masterpiece line. I agreed and told Tommy the sculptors were doin a good job(in my opinion 20$ ain't a bad price, and those things are not only more articulated, but look better than the MPC's. Not to mention the 11/00 SDCC exclusive is the Hikaru VF-1S). 3-We were shown the rough cuts of Shadow Chronicles and then footage from the final. It was pretty good. I think you mospeada fans will be pleased with the detail and animation of the Alpha and betas. Some of the CG was "typical CG" but it was definitely a lot more smoother and refined than CG tv shows. 4-I asked Tommy if Shadow Chronicles were to continue, in essence I asked if it was a movie or tv series. He told us that they could have taken the tv direction, but the thing is, tv networks don't really care if the series is good or not, as long as it meets deadlines and makes good ratings(at this point he compared it to transformers armada...which sucked as we all know but racked in good ratings for toynami and good sales for hasbro). He said that, that was not the right direction for robotech, so instead of a tv series, this first release is a movie. But he said it was NOT THE END. My guess is that its an OVA. Maybe this was announced before but I did not know, I'm just relaying what was said today@the panel. 5-Robotech 3000 is dead and they said fans made it clear@SDCC a couple years back that they did not want it. 6-Tommy was talking about how dissapointed he was as a child running home from school to catch the last episode and to see the ending. He tied this into how unlike robotech 3000, shadow chronicles would start directly after and tie into the last episode of robotech. Scott and Rick and buddies will be in there. 7-Someone asked the lady who was editor on the first robotech art books if Claudia was the first lead black anime character. She agreed and said something like back then on tv networks it wasn't a common thing...so they tried making Claudia sound historic. I was very skeptical...I was thinking and almost sure that there were prominent black characters in anime way before Claudia. 8-They said that when Chronicles was shown@Cannes it held it up very strongly and was very successful. 9-Due to lack of a projector for the 1st half and some slight computer trouble the panel went a lil over time and had to be cut short. Some people recieved t shirts, and 6 had the playing card game to test out. They wanted to here feedback about it@robotech.com. They also were to have a trivia game in which the winner would win a Jack Archer YF-1R MPC. I was eyeing this thing. Since the panel got cut short Steve pointed out 2 fans from the panel that seemed really into the panel and got them to play rock paper scissors over the YF-1R. After one of them won, we talked for a bit, all shook hands and I went to catch up with my friends. I might hit up tomorrows panel in the morning. If I do I'll try to ask how many movies they want for chronicles, and when you all's beloved BETA is arriving. Not sure if anyone noticed this as well but, the hikaru SDCC exlusive seems to have a clear canopy...perhaps this will be standard on the production mass market versions as well? Also someone did ask about inevitable comparisons with Macross zero and he also said "since they both use CG and tell the same story". I sat there saying"same story?!eh....". Anyways Tommy pointed out that they are too different and seperate stories and how its apples and oranges. People compared yukikaze to macross zero and vice versa he said, and the comparisons between shadow chronicles will be inevitable even if they are totally different scenarios that pretty much have nothing to do with each other. Btw Tommy and Steve were a LOT younger than I expected.

Graham do you think Yamato will panel line future releases? These things look killer with panel lines inked in.

I think drifand recommends it over the yamato. And 75$? Not bad! I may pick it up sometime.

I want Mazinkaizer and Gaofaigar. Hell Tetsujin 28 would be awesome as well. I sure as hell hope we can get ronin warriors in there too...they have NEVER had decent figures! I saw a recent size comparison of the new evas, not bad I will pick them up. Do these things have stands? btw there are rumors that there will be more than 2 transformer revoltech.

Hey guys I will be@AMA tomorrow(was today didn't bother with the macross panel since it was late), and I may attend the robotech panel. Tommy Yune and Steve Yun will be there. I'll post if I hear anything new or interesting their.

I'd say high possibility. Hell Shin AND Focker used it during the last episode. I think we'd get either Shin or Focker boxed with the Ghost first, and then see the Ghost by itself later on. This would give yamato a chance to brush up the small qc problems they had in the first run if a focker gift set were to be unleashed. And I myself think the box would be gargantuan.

Black Big Convoy was Cybertron's guardian, he was good. Black Convoy in RID/car robots was originally meant to be an autobot but gigatron scanned him before Fire Convoy could save him. Black Convoy originally was Fort Max' protector. Btw maybe its just me, but I got fire convoy, then armada, then energon and then finally cybertron/galaxy force prime/convoy. Fire Convoy is awesome but truthfully in my case, perhaps because I had it for such a while, when I got cybertron Prime, I got more of a liking for cybertron prime than fire convoy. Fire convoy is definitely better than armada and energon prime, but cybertron prime to me was the one to finally top fire convoy. The small things, like the working matrix chamber, more articulation, the folding mouth and head pieces and all really made me like it more. And I think he is more detailed than fire convoy. But fire convoy is one tough cookie to beat, it was hard deciding if i liked it more than my g2 laser and black convoys.

A couple folks on another board made a poll for a Hyabusa Ryu figure from Ninja Gaiden. i so hope he makes it into revoltech, he is awesome! And since kaiyodo did Shin getta hopefully they can do mazinga and mazinkaizer at some point.

\Katsushiro Otomo commented years back that the problem with american artists drawing manga horribly is that they think its a style rather than a way of storytelling. Manga is meant to be read fast, and the image should tell you immediately what is going on. Not to mention they tend to do things by week or bimonthly whereas westerners tend to put out stuff by month. So to many american artists, drawing "manga"=anime style stereotypical big eyes and cell shading. A lot of times it looks half assed, in my opinion that I have still kept true for years, there are very few american artists who can do manga well. And Ben Dunn is not one of them. I mean look at Goseki Kojima's work, holy hell its freaking awesome but not even like anime. But the story can immediately be grasped....the images tell you right away what is going on.

Oh i meant at the merge though skull leader. Like the onset/beginning of a dogfight.

Did anyone pick up book 6 of "Xmen:the end"? It concluded/came out on wednesday

Hey guys another question, if an F-4F were to tango with an F-15C, theF-15's got the turning and speed advantage, should the F-4 do a max g turn at the merge? Or dive and zoom? I keep hearing about the "make it or break it" turn@the merge which signifies how aggressive the pilot is. Or for example if a tomcat were to tango with a hornet, turn at merge, or dive/climb?

Do they usually pull max g during instantaneous?

BTW guys Bryan Hitch has some real old UK Transformers stuff.....his stuff now is very refined in comparison but its interesting to see what his stuff was like a long while ago. He did say that he wants to do hollywood stuff and it shows in his composition

Hmm okay I will give these more of a shot and I do hear where you are coming from. Now if these were 15$ then I'd be going for them hardcore. Not a bad size just wish they were bigger for the price. I mean its false advertising on kaiyodo's part.

THing is earlier on in comics some colors were put there just cause, by people who had no art experience or knowledge of how to use color. With the advent of the computer you had more control over color and could pull off a lot of things, bad thing is, the number of idiots who had the jobs at colorists increased more so and now you have a few good colorists who do good in photoshop and really know their poo, and a bunch of photoshop demigods that think they know wtf they are doing by googlin' the latest tutorial and maxing out effects in ps. Photoshop makes everything easier.....but its easier to tell who knows their poo and who doesn't as well. And for those of you who loathe Pat Lee, Liefeld gave him his first job at comics... And Liefeld is a damn hack I hate how he basically ripped off a bunch of anime covers and did not even acknowledge them. And God his art is horrible. The only good thing he did was make Deadpool

The 6" listed on the pre-orders and ads. I mean its 20$ for something a bit bigger than a gijoe and microman.

Wow that does look pretty small...I might be one and have to rethink buying others because of the size.