Jemstone

I know you're joking with him but I don't think he knows much about anything. He couldn't even explain to me what got him so worked up and how it is I singled out HG in favor of Macross 7..... I've been very kind to him in this thread too. EDIT: "I know you are but what am I" crap don't count as knowing either.

Mr Disco, I hope you learned a fine lesson from this. This is why some Robotechies just don't belong on MW. The Anime Nazis can have a field day with their combined idiocy.

Sticks & Stones, my friend..Sticks & Stones, Ha! True dat. Only I'm not your friend (and you're still an idiot with a twisted hard on for Macross 7).

I singled them out? Mind tellimg me how? I said this whole ad campaign just seems like a publicity stunt. I in no way acted like HG's the first ever and only company to do this. Talk about a defensive little Robotechie... Not all of us care about RT enough anymore to signle HG out. They are stupid company and always will be base don their own past record. All I did was point out an obvious. If you are looking to defend RT, be my guest but you're barking up the wrong tree if you think I care enough to even seriously discuss it. There'sa reason I've been absent from just about every RT thread that's been up lately. Gawd, you are such a little fannie. BTW while I have nothing against Macross 7, you will never catch me defending it in any way. EDIT: Mods, I have no idea why this loon wants to make this a bash Macross 7 thread but I'm finished with him.

Man, I'm kinda offended you'd put , Ridley Scott, Steven Spielburg, Tim Burton, Sam Raimi, and Ang Lee with Paul W Suck Anderson. Lucas I'm just mixed on.

I agree with eveything you said except the above tidbit. Floating rocks on earth can't be compared to the floating rocks in outer space. Just all around example because of you can suspend belief in since it's sort of based on the weightlessness in space altho being purely science fiction. The other you do have to be more willing to accept a technology beyond our own understanding. Some people just aren't willing to suspend any belief at all.

This is beginning to sound like nothing more than a really messed up publicity stunt. I'm sure a couple of our anonymous members would agree. Oh, and Big West is above this huh. Wasn't Macross 7 used to sell a @#%$!load of J-pop cds. What the hell does HG's retarded antics have to do with the lameness that was Basara's singing? And what makes you think I give a damn?

This is beginning to sound like nothing more than a really messed up publicity stunt. I'm sure a couple of our anonymous members would agree.

Hey, in the dark days before DVD I would have appreciated even a copy of COTB. That was then when we had no choice. Let's not scare the new fans with drunken John Wayne Roy and tripping on acid friends. However, never fear since Exo has a "gayness measuring stick" to warn to rate the level of any show to warn all of us first. Disclaimer: THis isn't a bash at Exo and he knows what I'm talking about. LOL

Then we'll just give them free copies of DYRL (not Clash of the Bioroids) and Macross Plus to balance it all.

That's cuz a Manillow concert helped him pick up alot of chicks one time.... in the same night!

"whatever"

I still want to know of this "gayness measuring stick" you spoke of. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...opic=9855&st=40

Yeah this is slightly off topic but it's the fault of that evil April Fools joke. You are correct. I do have Funshine and my sister has Cheer Bear (not that I could ever really know the difference). The only one I ever knew and cared for was Grumpy next to Braveheart Lion as a child. BTW I saw Transformers: Energon for the first time yesterday. I'm speechless because while I didn't curse the TV like I did Armada it was very wretched. I still like some of the designs like the Constructicon-Maximus which is the only toy I own from this series.

My only question is that if you buy a gun in the US and try to take it with you to Canada, can customs confiscate them using this law? I know the post office is a pain in the butt enough with customs agents.

Is that what he was saying? I thought he meant "pansy waste of a show" or something.

Aegis, I'm just going to quote you in kind since you would rather brush aside a topic that just goes witht he territory of being a Macross fan just like Robotech is a source for heated discussion with "whatever."

No such thing. Again it's up to people to control themselves. I know things can be worked out and at least be civil because I've seen it with fandoms that are even fiercer amongst themselves. I'm a Nascar fan and proud of it. Have been one since 1986 (yeah odd for someone predominatently raised in Boston, Ma) and there are few fan abses that are so pasionate about their sport and the drivers. One driver has seemingly split the fans in half the last decade; Jeff Gordon. Anytime this guy wins a race there is sure to be a frenzy. I watched this past Feb as he won the Daytona 500 and the debate regarding it didn't end in a blood bath. Something notorious in the Nascar fandom is the rampant and sometimes seemingly inconcievable hatred of Jeff Gordon (by those outside the sport anyways). Even now there's a thread that's been going on titled 'Why do people hate Jeff Gordon" that's remained pretty civil. Of course there's a couple fools trying to mess it up but of the 270 replies or so it's been very civil and calm. Even with the diehard Earnhardt fans and the diehard Gordon fans that defend each of their drivers like they are Jesus. I don't see why we can't be any different especially as there will always be Macross 7 threads. Some new fan will ALWAYS come along and ask for Macross recommendations. DYRL and Plus will always be at the top and Macross 7 and II at the bottom. My gawd, people need to pull themselves together and just act mature about not agreeing with the show. It's not like we are asking for peace among Red Sox fans and Yankess fans or worst Palestinians and Isrealies which are fueds that have run for decades. I find it ironic and all around weird that I'm trying to be the voice of reason about arguments......

Unfortunately, history has dictated that all M7 threads end like this. So everybody just gives up and relegate themsleves as a community to being less than the level of Robotech fans like Banky? EDIT: That doesn't justify the mass surrender to chaos going on here. It's not inevitable like people have convinced themselves to believe. Possible but people make it inevitable when they can't control themselves. I find it much easier just skipping posts that say things like "That sucks" with no merit. I totally ignored Vegeta whatever. If I can do that anybody can. Bowing out of a discussion for fear of what is possible is just being a weak wimp.

Dunno if you're serious but there are reissues of most 80s toys now. That's one of them. Somebody got me "Cheer Bear" (yellow sunchine one). That pic is just wrong on so many levels.

I disagree. I think BSU's done a pretty good job of allowing people to give rational reasons for disliking either show. This thread is pretty tame compared to most past threads. There's only been about 3 or so posts that have really been inflammatory and one just totally from the left field. If you want to stress that everyone is an adult here then why filter the topic? Just face the fact that Macross 7 is a part of the Macross universe and will always be a point of debate. Every fandom of a series seems to have one show nobody can ever agree on (Star Trek DS9, G Gundam/Gundam Wing, Transformers Armada, Will Smith Movies). It can be an annoying discussion but that's what this board is for. I don't think Macross 7 topics need to be banned so long as people remain rational overall. I know it's asking to much for every single person involved not to be inflamatory but that's unavoidable. It may not be the best aspect of being a Macross fan but it's a fact one must live with. Just saying this topic doesn't have to eb a black eye on a Macross forum.

Simple solution for that: Don't buy it. I haven't. And don't you break like of thee poor wimps have!

I said "relatively conciliatory". . . meaning "more conciliatory than that which came before" and I still think it was. Sorry if my tone isn't coming across. This is like the first time in eons that Agent ONE has given any reasons for his thinking. . . ... I CAN back up everything I say... But do I need to? Isn't my awesomeness enough? No......

Some people like it, most hate it. The more people hate Macross 7, the more vehemently the fans will defend it. Put yourself in the place of those who like it and ask yourself if you wouldn't do the same. Imagine someone saying Macross in general was crap and Gundam was way better. I bet I can guess your reaction...and mine. here's a better question: Is G Gundam better than Macross 7?