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Re: space folds http://macross.anime.net//story/encycloped...fold/index.html Despite the intrigueing theories presented, Keith, folds are all one, and the same. The difference we have to consider is that different animators portrayed the same thing differently - or that they don't really understand the nature of folding, instead opting for something that looks like Star Trek's warp speed, or Star Wars' FTL travel. A theory that myself, and another member of a Macross related RPG have brainstormed is readable here: http://www.macrossrpg.com/docs/index.php/Space_Fold_Travel It should be taken with a grain of salt, and it isn't exactly 'Macross technical words accurate,' however, it is our attempt to justify the sometimes extremely lengthy travel times required in Macross, when a true fold should be instantaneous (even faster than the 'quick' wormhole jumps of Stargate.) Re: the reason why 'it took the Zentraedi 10 years to track the SDF-1 Macross": http://macross.anime.net//story/chronology/2009/index.html (See the 2009.Feb.7 entry.

Do you have access to "Kawamori Shoji Design Works"? There's excellent artwork on the VF-0, and SV-51 in it. The lift-fan cover does indeed become the cockpit cover (sic. heat shield) in battroid mode. As the shoulder and head area are being the engine intakes in jet mode, (and the intakes remain attached to the legs when it transforms,) it appears that the head and shoulders moves forwards, with the lift fan sliding backwards. At the same time, the cockpit rotates about 90 degrees, with the armour coming over it. The nose partially retracts under the rotated cockpit, and the tip of the nose folds underneath itself, to make the stubby crotch of the battroid. Concurrently, the lift-fan assembly splits in half, with the lower half rotating down, to form the center of the back - it's 1/3 of the back, with 1/3 being the lift-fans above, and the lower 1/3 being the folded back nose/crotch piece. Or at least that's what it looks like, to me.

The work was commisioned for the VF-0B model kit created by Hasegawa. In other words, it's doubtful that stuff that isn't going to be on the model is going to be on the box cover. SK didn't draw any sketches of the VF-1 in space either. Sure he, and others, did story boards (and eventually animated sequences) of the VF-1 in space. However, until an art book on Macross Zero is released, we may never know if there were any sequences of the VF-0 in space being planned, or not. At the time of Macross Zero, the VF-1 was already completed, but it's thermonuclear engines were not. As has been stressed repeatedly in this thread, the VF-0 and VF-1 are different because of the very nature of their engines. It is doubtful that an unpowered VF-1 would be used in space. It is probable that other existing space fighters (such as the Hound Dog, Lancer II, etc.) would be used to gather space maneuvering data; even Destroids too, for that matter. But, as none of them are able to transform... Re: sealed cockpits - all jet fighter cockpits are sealed; AKA pressurized. They are pressurized to keep sea-level atmospheric pressure when the jet is far above sea level. The same principles apply to vehicles leaving the atmosphere: keep the air inside. The big difference is keeping things out of the cockpit (ex: water, other fluids.) It has been shown that the VF-0 is capable of doing that too. And for further fun - even Hikaru Ichijo's fan racer has a sealed cockpit and he is able to remain alive in space, while inside of it.

Legal... does the law state that the current owner is liable for the practices of the previous owner? Do we even know what type of agreement google has made? (As in: is YouTube still considered to be a seperate financial and legal entity, and any legal action against it is not going to go to the 'owners', and stay firmly with the operators) Most importantly, how much of the posted content falls under the "fare use" sections and/or clauses of such things as copyright law, and the law created around digital works? And is the host company liable for user generated and posted content? There are these, and a lot more questions out there. What is safe to say is that google has created an agreement, and its legal department has agreed that they have plans to make sure that a) Youtube stays on the good side of legality, b) Youtube remains famous, and c) Youtube will bring in more (given the purchase price, a lot more) profit for the business entity google, and the people who receive a percentage of the company's profits.

the fact that YouTube has deleted the copyright infringing files upon request AND signed some kind of an agreement with two of the big multimedia companies in the USA, reduces the chance of any big lawsuits coming their way. Also, technology, and the general perception of it, has changed since the days of the lawsuits that affected Napster. Please expect more positive results from the purchase, and try to find better reporters than the ones that you've been referring to, to date.

It's a mistake that showed up in one of Tenjin Hidetaka "Valkyries" book too (art for a missile/hardpoint attachment kit.) The two outer reaction missiles are supposed to be co-mounted on a single hardpoint. I guess for ease of manufacturing/assembly/mounting/whatever, they opted to add a third hardpoint, and keept the two reaction missiles seperate.

There is a picture in the Tenjin Hidetaka Valkyries book that has a VF-0B (two seater, with a VF-0A head) with the English words 'Space Proving Wing' stenciled on the side. It was also shown (and mentioned,) that the VF-0 can operate with closed intakes for a short period of time. Therefore, the implications are that the VF-0 was used in some kind of space training, testing, or flying. My two-cents are super high-atmosphere/low orbit testing - just high enough that the air is too thin for a normal plane to work, but not high enough to actually be in space proper; but that's just my take on it.

Please read the article cited. It does mention about them in the Japanese way of leaving things unsaid, but implied. There is no mention nor indication that it was designed to counteract Anti-UN weapons, and by all appearances, it was forced into that role by simply being the only working VF at the time. I really don't care what a mistranslated fansub claims that the Japanese are saying. Egan Loo has time, and time again proven to have provided superior translations into English, and has excellent access to the creators (though, I still disagree with the whole Zentraedi names in English thing.) To clarify: VF-0 = Test bed and trial production model VF-1 = production model They are the same plane... just at different stages of development. Test and trial usually implies that there are more bells and whistles added. Production usually means it is more economical (read: less bells and whistles,) and the manufacturing process has been made easier by altering the design to the capabilities and limits of the assembly line.

Isn't the F-14 a '70's design?

How many times did he fire that big multi-warhead missile? Just that once... Also, in all entertainment productions, the producers must make the choice between reality, and ease of understanding by the viewer. To quote the production staff of Star Wars (might be George Lucas) "if the viewer cannot understand it's purpose within 5 seconds, then it's a bad design." Yes, big, blocky reticule isn't realistic, but it's easy to spot, and easy to understand.

(attempting to stick to fresh debate ideas): IMHO, every and all VFs have some kind of swivel, or swing wings. Its part-and-parcel with the transformation process (wings fold up, swivel behind, flatten themselves against the torso, etc.,) to make a more compact battroid mode. True, the VF-22's wings don't swivel, but they still fold in on themselves - plus they can be stretched and distorted... So, yeah, swing/swivel/folding wings are a given in any transforming fighter...

The one on the right looks reminiscent of the Avenger II: http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/avenger2.htm Though, it is different at some key points... No idea what the other two jets are, on the left.

I remember it appearing only on his helmet, and not on the HUD (as it is the virtual cockpit, the entire thing is a HUD.) Funny thing is that it is viewable in multiple camera angles and behaves in ways that reflections do not.

The throttle controlled transformation (or at least, all-mode control sticks) was introduced with the DYRL version of the VF-1 (Block 6 and later, to be technical.) Thrust vectoring is present on the VF-1. It wasn't really shown until the intro animation of the DYRL game for the Sega Saturn/PS1. Of course, as this pre-dates Macross Zero and the designs of the VF-0... If anything, it'd look more like the SV-51. I believe that is the direction that Shouji Kawamori is taking transforming airplanes, and there is a lot more crammed into that nasty plane, then is readily apparent.

Jeez... google searches work wonders: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=ja&q=poutine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine Who said anything about French bashing,eh? I was hosing a fellow Canadian, eh, on his lack of Canadienne~ism.

First appearance was in Macross Plus (launches the drones.) Next appearance was in VF-X2.

Eh? French fries, Mr. March? What about the poutine, eh?

No, I didn't say all shows are not long, drawn out series. Just that the majority are (not long, drawn out series.) For example, an exception would be the long running "Sazae-san." It's been on TV since October, 1969. I don't think that there are many shows with that kind of endurance, in any television market on Earth! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sazae-san

Something to keep in mind is that the general rule of thumb is that US TV series are produced differently than the average Japanese or Asian TV series. This isn't just anime, but all television. Sticking specifically to animation, Macross was originally accepted for something like 24 episodes (the standard series length of most anime.) At some point, the series (Macross) was expanded to 27 episodes - and we can see the evidence of that with at least one semi-filler episode: "Global's Report." The episodes after 27 were kind of an encore based on the shows popularity, and marketing successes, and the few dangling plot lines that needed to be cleared up. What is true of Macross is true of most every anime and drama made in Japan, and Asia in general. Soap operas and sitcoms are nonexistant, and by and large, every show has a set number of episodes. Anywhere from under half-a-dozen, to the triples of dozens.

In M+ you see some of the HUD info (namely targeting retricle) dispayed inside Isamu's helmet. At this point (and presumably in M7 too, as the series takes place later in the timeline,) the visor is doing more than providing shade...

I think the smell (sic. burnt cookie) comes from how they create breathable air. I know on the Russian space stations, they used something along the lines of an oxygen candle (it burns slowly, releasing only oxygen.) It makes sense that this latest space station would use the same thing to create breathable air.

Yes. Also - why would non-English speakers come to an English website, let alone be able to find the thread(s) about their product? Even if they were, the vast majority of whatever their translations (probably software, probably not real people) would spit out would be negative sounding gobblygook. Of course, I could be mistaken, and they could have a decent enough command of English to understand that this thread is full of negative criticism and not much about how to fix the bits and peices that are being criticized... Just my two cents. EDIT: just for fun, using internet translation software, I translated jenius's post into Japanese, and then back into English. Fun!

It's mid-way up the lower leg, on the left side of the picture.

Shouji Kawamori might have done them as a joke, but the legs on the Rabbit certainly make much more sense than 'hunky and huge landing skids.' If they aren't legs, and they aren't 'height adjustable' (ie: able to land on uneven surfaces,) then the usefulness of the Rabbit, as a SAR vehicle drops considerably. Aside from transport and SAR, what other roles does the Rabbit fulfill? Perhaps some C&C duties - but there doesn't appear to be a lot of internal space. The VEFR-1 "Funny Chinese" appeared (briefly, at best, I believe,) in the later episodes of the SDF:M TV series. One of them is visible amongst the plethora of VFs in the pan-up the SDF-1 when it is leading the charge against the Bodolza flagship.

Who knows - something might already be in the works - just no where near the point where they are ready to annouce it. Or... the plethora of models and toys being released recently, and in the near future, IS the 25th anniversary celebration...