sketchley

My mistake, this is the toy section. The TV series section is not hostile. The fact that there are multiple threads active on the exact same topic, at the same time is what will lead to threads being locked. There won't be any gray VT-1 line-art. Line art is, by it's nature, lines only, with no colour or screen tone (ergo no gray.) What you want is colour art. My take it or leave it summation of the text on pg 87 of the This is Animation: Macross Plus OVA book is: VT-1 FAST Pack: SVMAT-102: From 2009.10, for three months on ARMD-4. Used the 'dayglow orange' colour scheme familiar from the movie. SVT-24: 2 units in the training wing on ARMD-2. SVT-24 also used 1 VF-1D. The body is light gray, with radome colour (dark gray) on the FAST packsm sensor head, and wing tips. Brown (same as on the dayglow orange VF-1) on the nose, and tips of the dorsal FAST packs. 00 on the front of the two FAST packs. Note: neither have a reference to their carrier on their body. There is a Super VF-1J on the same page with ARMD-03 on it's nacelle packs - so I am under the impression that the lack of carrier decal on the two VT-1 is intentional. The other impression I have is that there were (or are) not very many VT-1. With only 2 (3 if including the VF-1D) per 15 plane training wing*, and 0 per (regular) fighter wing, I am led to believe that we'd only find 2 or 3 VT-1 per ARMD (which carries upwards of 348 fighters**.) * 15 based on info found here: http://macross.anime.net//story/encycloped...pacy/index.html ** http://macross.anime.net//mecha/united_nat...armd/index.html

The 2nd image (Yamato?) looks more authenitic. I'm basing this supposition mostly on the arms - as the 1st image (Bandai?) has arms that look exactly the same as a regular VF-1; not to mention that it is in battroid mode, still with armour on - something that I have never seen in both the anime and in line-art. The way that the VT-1 transforms, it would be difficult to impossible to mount Super or Strike VF-1 FAST packs (again, as modeller, it's your call.) The VT-1 FAST packs are pretty much specific to it, and the Rabbit. It doesn't look like the leg and arm packs are limited to the VT-1. Thank you for the images of the toys (models?,) but what about line art?

I'm curious about these arm pods for the VT-1. I rechecked my Shoji Kawamori's Macross Design Works, and on pg 42 (page on the VT-1), there are NOT any arm FAST packs that are noticeable. Are there pictures of them available? The above (toy?) pictures do have arm packs, BUT they look like recoloured VF-1 Strike FAST packs. The entire section between the engine nacelles (legs) also looks different in the lineart that I have available.

No worries. Way back in the day (2001,) I made some FAST packs for the VF-4. They are based on similar looking FAST packs created for the VF-1, for either the VF-1X or VF-1X Plus upgrades. Personally, I think they are better than the VF-4 FAST packs designed for a game pre-1995. But agreed, something that revisits the reconstruction/colonization era would be nice... EDIT: the images can be viewed here: http://studiootaking.deviantart.com/art/VF...c-View-62760460 http://studiootaking.deviantart.com/art/VF...-packs-62766094

Not to mention the cost reductions due to parts commonality, and not having to retrain mechanics for work on a new machine.

Additional fuel and/or sensors in the arm units. Plus what previous posters said. Re: weapons: there's the possibility of wing mounted missiles, too.

1) Does the VF have hands? If so, then it is capable of carrying and using a gun pod in battroid and gerwalk modes. Mounting it in fighter mode is an entirely new question. Otherwise, it's good ol' hand to hand combat. The VT-1 should also be capable of mounting wing ordinance (or additional sensor pods.) 2) The VT-1 has manueverability thrusters on the tips of the wings, the VF-1D does not. The VT-1 also has a head which looks like it has more, or extended sensor capabilities. Then again, it could just be a stripped down head unit, with only the needed sensors having an advanced ability. 3) unknown. In DYRL it launched from the SDF-1 with it's attached ARMD. 5) SVT-24 (squad? unit?) has a dark & light grey, and beige scheme (seen in This is Animation: Macross Plus.) 6) No. It's a movie thing. PS Mods locked your thread. I suggest respecting their decision to lock the thread. Perhaps this forum isn't the right one, as you appear to be asking a question on a model kit. Must read: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=142 (section VII, specifically.)

The film will probably be a little bit less understandable if you haven't seen the TV series yet (as it is based on, or a summary of, the events of the TV series.)

Thanks JBO. Interesting read, and it looks like the only additional featurette is the 'innocence across international borders' from the 2-disc Japanese release.

Here's a good example of the HD quality of the games now being released: http://ps3-gundam.net/ Gundam: Target in Sight for the PS3. (Click on trailer to see the goods.) It's a shame that neither of the two CMs are the most recent one on TV: "you've been waiting 27 years for this game..." LOL Now imagine playing that game on this TV screen with little to no loss in detail!

Wow. You've definitely done your homework, JBO. On that last quote - I'm definitely interested in seeing this release. I have the DVD version, and there is at least one scene (Batou, underwater, approaching the factor ship) that is overwhelmed by a red 'filter' to the point of some of the details being washed out. I'd like to see what that looks like with the 'greater colour depth' that the reviewer quoted mentions. As for HD (or HV (High Vision) here in Japan), it is here, now. Almost every current/live TV show that I watch is in HV; that's everything from News, through to anime. The lower resolution stuff is limited to older shows, and foreign imports. Usually the worst resolution stuff is foreign (North American?) news... I'm not sure if it's because they have been taken from a satellite channel, or if it's due to the way the images were captured on film. All of this is readily visible on a small, cathode ray tube TV that isn't even designed for HV. Erm... HD.

Good points jenius. Even the Macross 7 series "rewrite" that occured in 1994, a series that used CG animation in its opening credits, stated that the Bodolza ship seen in the movie was 'really' a Beginhill ship cloaked in holograms. I guess, at the time of Macross 7's production (1993/4), and with what the hologram technology was shown to be capable of in the various Macross series, the producers of Macross opted for that explanation, and chose not to rely on the, at the time, unproven, CG animation. Just for fun: to revist the existance of the Prometheus in the movie - remember movies like Star Wars IV, and Star Trek II? Both were made a long time before CG inundated the movie making industry. Both resulted in very good looking effects, using nothing more than models, blue screens, hand drawn effects, and optical printers. The same techniques could apply to the production of the scenes of the Prometheus in the movie. Sets and models. Heck, movies still do that, though the models are rarely physically built, and more and more of the set is filled in with blue screens...

Just did a quick search (results are from the Japanese google): Macross World is still 9th. The first mention of Robotech doesn't appear until page 3; #38, if I'm reading it correctly.

Basically it's the difference between TV series and movie versions. The in-universe explanation of DYRL is that it is a movie, made in the Macross universe, based on the story of SDF:M. As it was made a couple of decades after the actual events, they used the equipment available at that time: more advanced versions of the VF-1, etc.. Block, in this case, means the set of VFs manufactured (or upgraded) to a standard equipment level. The most obvious differences, are the seat, consol screen, HUD (use of the cockpit glass in the later block), and controls (lack of battroid specific controls to the left and right of the control panel//jet HOTAS act as controls in all modes in the later block.) http://macross.anime.net//mecha/united_nat.../vf1/index.html (scroll to the avionics section.)

Betamax was definitely better than VHS. However, Sony's stranglehold on it, killed the format... which makes me a bit concerned about the future of Blue Ray... has Sony learned their lesson?

I suggest two things: be careful about making statements about things you haven't scene or experienced yet (it may come back to bite you on the a$$), and hurry up and go see the movie!!! Frankly, I was blown away by the level of detail and richness put into some of the scenes - scenes that are not necessarily the type made to show up in sound bites and preview clips, if you know what I mean. I also recommend going in with zero expectations. If you go in expecting a clone of the first GiTS movie, you'll probably be disappointed. If you go in expecting SAC, you'd probably be disappointed too. If you go in expecting a character study, and Batou going through a kind of catharsis, that's occasionally punctuated by intense violence, you probably won't be disappointed.

Just out of curiousity, I got out a varied selection of my Macross books, just to check the copyright writeup: This is Animation: SDF:M 下巻: copyright æ¯Žæ—¥æ”¾é€ & ビックウエスト (Publisher: å°å­¦é¤¨) Macross Perfect Memory: copyright æ¯Žæ—¥æ”¾é€ & ビックウエスト (Publisher: ã¿ã®ã‚Šæ›¸æˆ¿) This is Animation: Macross 7 TV Animation Materials: copyright ビックウエスト (Publisher: å°å­¦é¤¨) Shoji Kawamori Macross Design Works: copyright ビックウエスト,　河森正治＆スタジオã¬ãˆ (Publisher: MOVIC) Tenjin Hidetaka Art Works of Macross: Valkyries: copyright Tenjin Hidetaka & ビックウエスト　(Publisher: KOBUNSHA) As suspected, the copyright for the material in the book(s) is still with Big West, which is actively publishing related material. In addition, there may be the copyright for the book with the company that originally published it (the additional material produced by the publisher that wasn't provided by the copyright holder.) There is also the possibility of the publisher reprinting the book. For example, my This is Animation: SDF:M 下巻 is the 5th printing, printed in 1990.9.01, when the first printing was in 1983.9.10. Another point I'd like to raise is that copyright laws are potentially quite different in Japan, from your country (if it isn't Japan.) What I have noticed here in Japan, is that websites do not have copyright pictures in them, without permission from the copyright holder. On the other hand, there are many derivative pictures, which appear to be allowed by Japanese copyright law (the sheer number of dojinshi appears to confirm this supposition.) Regarding the visibility of Macross World - it is currently ranked 9th on a google search under the term 'Macross.' As I'm in Japan, and google loads into a Japanese page, I did the search again, limiting responses to English only. Macross World is 5th. Highly visible, in other words. Yes... I agree that 'we' get away with more than the law allows. IMHO, pessimistically, it's because a lot of the infractions are two small, or causing negligible (financial) damages. Optomistically, the copyright holders let us get away with them, because a large proportion of the membership actively buys their products, not to mention all the free publicity the Macross World Publicity Machine © is generating for them. But that's just me and my alcohol fueled take on it.

These things are usually published under license. The license for the book may or may not have expired, but that doesn't mean that the copyright held by Big West is over.

In a way, Innocence is much, much better than 2nd Gig - it shows growth, and development of the characters that isn't really evident in any Gits production save for the original manga's developments of the Motoko character. I also look at the film as, gasp, not a Shirow production, but an Oshii production. But yes, good points on movies being made for the big screen. I was seriously blown away when I saw Star Wars Eps. 2 on an IMAX screen. The level of detail in the CG backgrounds of some of the scenes actually increased exponentially (of course, being able to see all of the pock marks, zits, and imperfections on the faces of the actors was a bit of a turn-off.) IMHO, Blue-Ray looks to be the better format. People want more, and Blue-Ray offers more disc space, than HD-DVD, for all of the extras and freebies that people want along with their ultra-high resolution movies. So yeah, they coulda done a lot worse than having Innocence as one of the first Blue-Ray anime releases. On the other hand, how many other anime would actually have improved visuals on a Blue-Ray than on a DVD? Not many... It'll be interesting to see if Steam Boy gets released on Blue Ray or the other format...

That could just be copyright renewal. What was released in 2006 other than kits and toys? EDIT: unless if there is something rather big and massive in the pipe, and it was so massive that it wasn't anywhere close to being able to release even teaser information on it in 2006... my money is mid-to-late 2007 for something to appear. That, or close to the exact anniversary of the first broadcast of SDF:M! That's Oct. 3rd... hmm, supporting where my money is. http://macross.anime.net/production/animat...irst/index.html

Oh! This is making me interested in the Blue Ray - erm, PS3, all the more so. I can't say much more than what I just found with a quick google search: Released on December 6th. It's the international version. It has subtitles in Taiwanese, Japanese, English, French, and Korean languages. It looks like it has the same extras (plus more???) as the two-disc 'standard' DVD release. Here's a page (in Japanese) with the most information that I found: http://www.dvd.netyokocho.jp/catalog/VWBS-1013/

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a problem. Now, if the VF was two small on the other hand...

Yes. Isn't it Big West who hold the rights? And as they are in the process of revising the Macross website, it implies that they are still publishing content, right?

Let's also not forget that Bodolza's fortress (in the movie) is really a Beginhill training ship covered in holograms. Shoji Kawamori once said something along the lines of if he told Macross as a TV series, you get SDF:M. If he told it like a movie, you get DYRL?. Of course, for Macross canon/history/continuity, the events of the TV series are true, but not the designs. The designs from the movie are true. It's confusing... And no, the ARMDs were intended to be BOTH stand-alone space aircraft carriers/platforms, AND docking to the SDF-1, and SDF-2. There are images of the planned, but never built, SDF-2, with ARMD arms, that predate the release of DYRL?.

ï¿¥0. Of course, you could always take digital photos of the book. A friend of mine did that for both Kazutaka Miyatake's and Tenjin Hidetaka's books. The results were very good. The main reason he did this was because of the sheer time involved with scanning (not to mention the wear and tear on the books.) I've had mixed results with this, as I tend to have the camera too close, and/or in bad lighting. I believe the trick is to use the zoom feature, while keeping the camera far enough away for the focus to work properly. Anyhow, good luck with whichever means you choose for digitizing the book.