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What's in a name? A LOT! Evil Series = what became the Protodevlin. Evil series = nothing to do with Macross! It is referring to a series of something called Evil. evil Series = nothing to do with Macross! It is referring to something called Series which is evil. evil series = nothing to do with Macross! It is referring to a series (possibly a movie or TV one) which is evil. Not providing the correct name not only diminishes ones posts, it also fundamentally changes the meaning. It's like referring to the President as the president. Post what you mean, not something resembling what you mean. It fights off confusion; unless if you're being deliberately arguementative again. In that case: everyone, don't feed the troll! PS Eugimon, I had to read your post twice to confirm exactly what you're talking about. The dual word, dual capitalization, especially in the name Evil Series, is applicable to one and all. It's terms like this that leave me scratching my head as to why people have chosen to romanize Macross terms in non-standard ways. Personally, I prefer the standard Hepburn romanization, and in this case, the result would create something that would still be understood without proper capitalization.

Psst: did you see the edit?

It could be another ship in the Supervision Army fleet that sped by somewhere "close" to Earth. I'm not thinking along the lines of Macross 25 being about the Supervision Army at this point. However, one way to look at it is that Earth (or at least a select few on Earth) were aware of exo-solar life traveling the stars, and an enlarging of the scope of the Macross Background Story .

Correct name: "Evil Series" See: http://macross.anime.net/story/chronology/...0000/index.html (Before anyone raises pitchforks and ilk, note the capitalization denoting a proper noun composed of two words.)

Good point Eugemon. I'd like to add: In VF-X2, the Factory Satellite has had a giant (for lack of better words) hole in it's side, allowing for asteroids to be brought inside and processed. IMHO, extra-solar asteroids would be the main building material used by the factory ships in colonization fleets. That said, how many years have the Zentraedi (and presumably Supervision Army) Forces been using Factory Satellites to build their massive fleets? It's highly probable that they have already strip-mined the (easily attainable) resources of the galaxy!

Ok... I'll bite. 1) of the few that actually make Macross art, they post some here. Though, in honesty, I don't know what you're saying when you say "favorite Macross artwork". Do you mean self made, or made by others? 2) In my case, it's finished pictures inclusive of backgrounds. 3) Drawing anything decent (or anywhere near what the original artists drew) takes practice, irrespective of the source. 4) I've never drawn Seed Destiny mecha, so I have no clue. I have found that Macross VFs are generally easier to draw than mecha from the original Gundam series. Mind you, I've spent years more time examining and studying VFs than I have Gundams. If, as I'm guessing from your questions and UserID, you plan to draw Macross VFs, keep in mind the design philosophies: Gundam = heavy and armoured, VFs = delicate and aerodynamic.

On that note, I'd like to add that the era that the VF-1 and the VF-19/21/22 were produced in are radically different. The VF-1 needed to be produced in sufficient numbers to fend off an alien invasion as soon as yesterday. The VF-19/21/22 were produced in an era where the authorities could spend the time/money/whatever to finesse the designs to get the most out of it. In other words, due to the situation, the UN Spacy can afford to wait on releasing the Project Supernova AVF. (In addition to the logisitics, training, difficult to pilot, etc. that's already been mentioned.)

The VF-X2 game, set in 2050, with the main opponent being people from the UN Spacy itself, has the majority of UN Spacy equipment using opponents in the VF-11. Only one or two had the VF-19, one had the VF-22, and the majority were the (Target) Drone and Ghost X-9 (both from Macross Plus.) I think it says volumes about the fate of piloted VFs in general in Macross post-2050, but that's an entirely different topic of discussion.

I don't think Kazutaka Miyatake did the AFOS design. He did do the Ginga Kujira, Protodevlin, and the Ghost Fighter from Macross Zero. Though, given the limited literature spawned by Macross Zero (the only art book per se appears in the back half of Tenjin Hidetaka's Valkyries), it is possible that he designed the AFOS as well.

Many good points, but this got me thinking the most: what is the gimmick that Macross has that makes it different from the rest in the genre? I read it as spiritia is here to stay.

Had a chance to check out the magazine - Gundam 00 is in full hype mode. Macross only appears as small adverts for the rereleases of Macross Plus and 7 (old news.) As for the future release of it - there was an article in the magazine about the benefits of Blu-ray/HD-DVD vs. DVD. Given the number of anime releases on Blu-ray (I didn't spot a single HD-DVD release!), there's a strong chance that the standard for anime will be Blu-Ray. That said - what Azrael said - let's wait until AFTER the show starts being broadcast before we contemplate a non-televised media release of "Macross 25".

Agreed, and that's only if the ships aren't being used to do something else. If I'm not mistaken, attachments to the colony ship were built to expand the available space for the residents (populations tend to grow and need more living space,) not to mention the general repair and replacement of parts in the ships and vehicles in the fleet.

Simple: Macross 7 and Macross Plus were running at the same time. If they had the M7 Fleet VFs composed of VF-19, it'd take (one part of) the mystery out of Macross Plus. In universe, I believe the explanations are: the VF-11 worked fine, and until they met the Varuta, there was no need to change all of the VFs in the fleet to the VF-19. I believe the M7 fleet was also launched before the year that Macross Plus takes place.

Isn't it implied (if not directly stated) that the AFOS (or a similar device) has been used in Earth's past to wipe out preceeding civilizations? I think that was shown in the last episode of Macross 0, if memory serves.

The latest issue of Newtype is out. There's nothing on the cover mentioning Macross 25. I'll try and pop into a store that allows tachiyomi to see if there is anything mentioned inside (doubtful.) Hobby Japan (I think that was the modeling magazine) didn't have anything on the new series either, though it does have a nice collection of photos about the new SV-51.

Different pilot suits for different branches of the UN Spacy, and the different roles the pilots have in their branches. Case in point, the Macross 7 and Macross 5 (the Zentraedi fleet that gets possessed by the protodevlyn about halfway through the series) have disimilar uniforms. Diamond Force (I guess due to their elite nature) have different uniforms. So too do the heroes, etc. The reason - ease of recognition. The uniform discussed in this thread is the new canon fodder brown from SDF:M.

It's only after the opening credits, shown in the first handful of episodes. Basically, it shows the destruction of Earth, meeting and peace treaty signing with the Zentraedi, cloning, and the creation of emmigration fleets to explore the galaxy.

It's officially stated by the creators of Macross in the timeline printed in the Macross Perfect Memory book. See http://macross.anime.net//story/chronology/2010/index.html and http://macross.anime.net//story/chronology/2013/index.html for an English translation (search for cloning.)

Cast and crew are important, but the most important are: editor writer director A good director can't really save a badly written movie, but a great editor can hide what a movie is lacking. Anyhow, seeing a live-action DYRL or Macross is not something that I ever want to see. Call it the stylistic properties inherent in animation, or the easier suspension of disbelief...

Excellent. Simply excellence.

Personally, I'm reserving comment until further information is released on the series. That said, I have some critical questions about the latest wind blowing up the fan-boys' skirts: How closely tied is the source text to the powers-that-be whom control the Macross property?* How accurate is the translation?** * I see TAF (Tokyo Anime Fair,) but no Big West, Studio Nue, or even Bandai (not that they have much to do with Macross aside from sponsoring it and releasing licensed products based off of it.) ** As has already been proven in this thread (the 1/4 of a century thingy,) translating is a very delicate process, often rife with errors if one doesn't have a deep familiarity with the source language and topic.

I think it's more a case of not having the means or ability to take care of the (comparatively small) market for their products in the US, than it is about them "not caring about it". Customers purchasing their products is profit, after all. Though, I have heard of manufacturers not wanting to enter the US market due to the high number of litigations there - in other words, insurance is higher, and not many insurers are willing to cover the US market. Also, in addition to the Japanese purchasers being able to fully read the instructions (and Chinese speakers being able to (mostly) accurately guess the meaning of them), it should be pointed out that Japanese fans are also too busy to transform their purchases more than a couple of times. Too busy in the sense of: a) working too much (Japanese does have a word meaning "working to death" afterall) and b) attention focused on the hordes and reams of new products being released almost daily. So yeah... the products are probably just as likely to break, but then again, they are prized collector items, and not toys that you'd trust to a 5 year old kid. Right?

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, nor how accurate it is... that said, it does provide a good rough guide: http://unsd.macrossroleplay.org/uncrewcomplements.php

Kamjin had my ear in his first post. He lost my ear in the consecutive ones when he stepped down to the level of the hecklers. (Psst: Kamjin, as a writer, you have to release a work to the public, and walk away from it; not everyone is George Lucas and has the means and balls to make changes after the initial publication. This was one of those walk-away times.) And yes, some posters in MW have very poor manners to each other. That doesn't mean that all posters must behave badly. No, bad manners are bad manners. And if this community wants to grow, people have to fix their manners. As it is, there is a growing number of posters that I ignore and/or don't bother with anything more than a cursory glance... very sad. Conversly, there is a short list of members that I admire and respect, because they don't exhibit bad manners.

If memory serves... that was with DYRL, not Macross Plus. By the mid-90's there was a lot more native-speaker English teachers in Japan than there was in the mid-80's. Therefore, there was no need to use Macross Plus as a teaching tool, as more than enough ALT and Eikaiwa existed to fill it. Lucrative profit or more likely not. It's a business gamble. In the case of the Macross properties 7 and Zero, the gamble did not pay off, as no company purchased a license to release them in English. Now that we've moved into the digital age, and especially with the High Vision recordings available on formats like Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, it's possible to cram both Japanese and English tracks onto releases (unlike the VHS age, were we'd be lucky if someone included an extra audio track, if anything at all.) That said, many Japanese companies have historically ignored the international market with the majority of their products (I don't mean this in the sense of including English labels, I mean it in the sense of actively promoting it and more specifically, litegating rivals that produce copy products,) so without a major rethink in business strategies, we may not be seeing an increase of English tracks or subtitles on the latest releases...