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I suspect they’re so close together, in order for the legs to fit correctly in fighter mode. I’m guessing the nacelles/back boosters are a little hollowed out too, so the legs can slip in there.
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So out of morbid curiosity, what are the first three Pillars of Macross? 1). Transforming mechs above all else? 2). Singing defeats conflicts? 3). Someone’s gotta die? I always thought Pillar No. 4 would be “Respect the Hory Froating Head” or “Yoshinol or Beer Missiles makes everything better.”
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But Bandai wound up lopping off too much. I don’t mind hip guards shorter than the Yamato version. But it’s just too much here. Adding just a bit more (so 3/4 of the bellyplate becomes hip guards and 1/4 of the bellyplate flips and folds into the backpack) would go a long way to improve the battroid look and posing options. And then what’s gonna happen when they add the Fast Packs? Fighter mode would look hella weird if it’s just covering the hip guard portion of the bellyplates.
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That’s kinda my whole point: where the hell will that bottom/back third of the bellyplates go in Gerwalk mode? From the battroid pics, we can sorta see that they fold into the backpack assembly and not become part of the hip guards. But for Gerwalk mode, this back third of the bellyplate will either: a) Hang off the back end as useless kibble; b) Fold up into the backpack, but block where the ventral/VTOL vents should be revealed. If you look at underside pics of the Yamato 21, you’ll see what I mean about those ventral vents. Just seems that Bandai went with an inelegant design choice to go with shorter bellyplates, and that choice could compromise the Gerwalk’s look. It’d make better sense to lengthen the part of the bellyplates that become the hip guards, and have the remaining smaller portion of the bellyplates get flipped around to reveal ventral vents (and get folded into the backpack assembly).
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“Blame >EXO<“ for leaving a foldildo in Eugimon’s Omega Pants (TM) . . . I wonder how many MW old-timers will remember those references!
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I’m curious to see how Bandai designed the Gerwalk mode. From the battroid pics taken so far, it doesn’t look like they added any details for the ventral/VTOL exhaust vents that display most prominently in Gerwalk. With a third of the bellyplates and the fighter side covers hanging off the backpack assembly, I’m just wondering where the heck they stow those (for lack of a better word) kibble parts during Gerwalk mode. Yet another reason why I don’t like the shortened bellyplate/hip guard design choice!
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Reviews/pointers for the Sea Team: https://www.tamashiinations.com/product_detail/voltron_review2/ And the Land Team: https://www.tamashiinations.com/product_detail/voltron_review3/ Always thought the Sea Team was also known as the Aqua Fighter Team.
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See, I look at the same side-by-side picture, and I can't help but think, "If they just made the 21's bellyplates/hip armors just a little bit longer, the Super-Nova birds would look more balanced." It's just throwing everything else off about the battroid.
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From Macross Mecha Manual: Basically the legs stow inbetween the wings and the bellyplates. How they're positioned for fighter mode is really up to the designers (i.e., Bandai or Yamato). But basically, it's a balance between getting a skinny fighter mode profile and big beefy legs for battroid.
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I still got some gripes in battroid (hip guards too small, seems to be kinda gappy between the fuselage and the backpack). But that fighter side profile looks good enough, though. In order to fit the wider legs, I see that they made the nacelles bigger. Wouldn't be surprised if nacelles are hollowed out to fit the bigger legs in that space.
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I still remember the debacle with CM’s Legioss and Tread. The uncolored prototype had flaws (Legioss tailfins peaking out in combined fighter, split level look of the combo fighter, and the yellow array on the Tread not sitting down flush), none of which ever got fixed all the way through to final product. If it’s early in the process, I’d rather make a stink now, while changes can still be made. I get that Bandai is trying to make a box for the arms and legs to hide into, but they could apportion more of the bellyplate to the hip armor, rather than almost a third of the bellyplate to the fighter box cover.
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I still think they should elongate the bellyplates in battroid. They’re just too short. I don’t see the point of having so much of the lower bellyplate become part of the backpack assembly. Even if it’s a design or transformation compromise, it really messes up the look of the battroid the most.
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The fact that they were able to put a UN Spacey logo on the fuselage chunk, right under the tailfin, does make me worry about the overall fighter mode thickness. On the Yammy, that’s where the forearms meet a backpack side cover. So, there’s no room for a UN Spacey sticker there. It’s just too thin of an area and the transformation process doesn’t make it a feasible spot. I wound up putting UN Spacey stickers on the back nacelles instead.
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I really don’t like the shortened bellyplates in battroid. I can understand making them shorter than the 1/60 Yamato’s, but not THAT short.
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The biggest difference I see in fighter is that the backpack engines are closer together on the Bandai, while the Yamato has a wider gap between ‘em. I wonder if Bandai changed the leg transformation so that it’s the heels touching, rather than the tips of the feet touching (as in the Yammy).
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For comparison purposes, Bandai DX: Yamato (customized, but no changes to structure):
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Including delimiter mode for the 21? . . . And high speed modes for both birds?
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Thanks for the pics! That overhead shot makes me less worried about the size of the nose/cockpit. I snapped a pic of my custom Yammie 21 from almost the same angle, and it looks similar to that. Looks like Bandai splits up the bellyplates (with the bottom half going with the backpack perhaps or folding into the top portion of the bellyplate?) Don’t like the design choice there. It looks like the antenna can be pivoted per enphily’s post below:
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See, I know it’s an optical illusion due to the angle of the photo, but it seems like the nose/cockpit area is just a smidge too small. And yet the bellyplates are significantly smaller, so you’d think the wings and back of the plane should be more compressed. So confusing without more pics
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Regarding more Kanan:
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I’d like to see more fighter pics, especially a dead front shot and a side profile pic. Design seems to emphasize battroid mode, but am curious why the bellyplates are kinda short.
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Custom-painted Yammie. . . back when I had more time for such crazy projects.
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Thanks for the clarification on the “new kids” comment. Regarding my wait-and-see approach, it’s not so much waiting for reviewers to shape my opinion or confirm my biases. It comes more from a “Fool me once, shame on you (Disney). Fool me twice, shame on me” approach. After finding TFA surprisingly okay, I took the plunge and went opening weekend for TLJ. TLJ was a massive disappointment to say the least, and I don’t see the need to reward Disney with another opening weekend viewing plunge. TROS could turn out to be good, but with 2/3rds of the sequel trilogy already told, I don’t find enough in the story told so far that makes me want to continue on.
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She may be old, but the Yammie YF-21 is still a skinny, sexy beast!
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It’s not all “new kids with their new toys” who are jaded with the new trilogy (It’s probably the opposite actually). You’re entitled to your view, just as I’m entitled to my “Nah, this new trilogy hasn’t done much for me, so I’m gonna pass on watching its conclusion.” Just because I’m a fan of Star Wars doesn’t mean I’m obligated to go watch a film I’m not all that into. If the reviews are good across the board, MAYBE I’ll catch it in theaters. But right now? I feel no need to watch out of obligation, compulsion, or some sense of completion.
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