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It would be a good work around. Let HG keep the license to the OG releases (SDF and DYRL) but put the rest out there. Sure BW doesn't get the money for the first series, but they will for the rest. Then, if the above works, yes animated Mac-1st and update/re-animated DYRL under a new name.

Macross creator Shoji Kawamori once stated that the stories in Macross we have seen have always been docu-dramas of the events, and not the actual events. I believe this was to explain the story and visual differences between TV and Movie versions. (at the time the question was regarding SDFM TV and M:DYRL). So, that got me thinking after some discussion of Macross 7. I did a similar write up to this for the Star Trek TV series and movies. SDF Macross: Following the events of Space War 1, and prior to the launch of the SDF-2 Megaroad, UN Spacey authorized the production of a Docu-Drama following the events and individuals at the center of SW1. Due to the continued front-line usage of the VF-1, and because the VF-4 had not net yet entered LRIP (Low Range Initial Production), the only available airframes were early and pre-war prototypes with the original cockpit. While a series docu-drama the series did include more comedic aspects in order to help boost the population’s spirits. Filming commenced shortly after the attack of the SDF-1 by Kamjin, which nearly destroyed the Battlefortress and mandated it’s massive reconstruction. As a result, most interior scenes were filmed on sets built within the heavily damaged and retired Prometheus and Daedalus Spacecraft Carriers, or in areas around Macross city. Due to the lack of examples (functional and otherwise) of many pre-war vehicles, many shots used post-war vehicles or models there of as stand-ins. Extensive usage of stock, security, and gun camera footage were used in the series to portray the various battles and historical footage. Footage of models was also used to fill in some aspects, and in some cases, UN Spacey allowed the use of actual Mecha for key scenes that would not endanger the units. Many details were obscured or outright changed due to security issues. The series met with great reviews and as the reconstruction of the SDF-1 neared completion another production was planned, this one as a feature film. Macross DYRL: In preparation for the launch of the SDF-2 Megaroad, and following the completion of SDF:M, the feature length retelling of SW1 began. At this time, the VF-4 has entered LRIP and final acceptance testing, freeing up numerous later block VF-1s for use in filming. Filming also took place aboard the SDF-1, around the reconstruction with many of the actors from the TV series reprising their roles. Due to the length of the feature many details were changed, though some declassified information was permitted, most of the pertained to the time spent on the Protoculture City then Captain Misa Hayase, and LT Hikaru Ichijo. This event was left completely out of the TV series for security reasons, but became a key feature of the feature film. The film was released to coincide with the launch of the SDF-2 Megaroad, though the filmmakers wanted to wait in order to show the launch at the end of the feature. Flashback-2012: Released two years after the launch of the Megaroad, this compilation music video used highlights from Lynn Minmay’s final concert as well footage the previous TV series and movies to perform a quick chronicle of her life up until the launch. New footage was shot aboard the SDF-3 and using in-service VF-4s. Though seeing only limited release, the film is treasured by fans of the pop-idol who helped end SW1. Macross-II: Released ten years the end of Space War 1, this fantasy film imagined how the UN-Spacy would change over the next 80 years. No mention was made of the colonization effort which upset many citizens, as did many other aspects of the mini-series. Macross-Plus: Following the Sharon Apple Incident (2040), and numerous demands for answers in the form of numerous Freedom of Information Act Requests, the UN Spacey allowed the production of the Macross-Plus Docu-Drama. Originally intended as a documentary following the Super-Nova fighter competition, the mini-series and follow on feature used a great deal of test footage shot during the competition. More scenes were shot on location with actors filling in for the actual people involved. Shinsei Industries & General Galaxy were more than happy to lend the filmmakers the surviving prototypes for the production. While the YF-19 was selected as the “winner” of the competition, neither fighter saw widespread production or deployment. Instead both served as special operations craft for decades to come. While some discrepancies exist between the mini-series and theatrical film none of the survivors of the incident have yet commented on which is closer to the truth. Macross 7: While not originally declassified to the public, the events of the year long Macross 7 Colonization Fleet war with the ProtoDevlin were discovered following the disappearance of Nekki Basara in 2047. While numerous bootleg recordings of the signer existed at the time, very little in the way of clear actual video or photographic evidence did. This brought up numerous theories regarding his origin, what happened to him after the war, and his role in the brief conflict. An enterprising fan of the band, after filing numerous FIARs was able to obtain heavily redacted information regarding the events of the war, and after crowd-funding a production, travelled to Macross-7 to film their own Docu-Drama regarding the events. Due to the inaccessibility of certain key personnel and data, extensive use of models and stock footage was used in the early parts of the series. This allowed the maker of the project to spend a great deal of time following the main characters of the piece, the Band FireBomber, of whom they were a major fan. When officials aboard Macross-7 learned of the production, they permitted the usage of certain areas of the fleet for filming, and moved most of the production the Hollywood ship, as the outlaw filmmaking style that preceded the move upset many of the citizenry who had lived through the conflict. It was around this time that the story of the war came into greater focus, though the exact nature of how “sound-energy” worked was never made clear. It is also believed that the extent to which “Sound Force” was used in the conflict was somewhat exaggerated, as was Nekki Basara’s usage of the custom VF-19Kai early in the conflict, prior to the official induction of Sound Force. There is evidence to suggest that he originally flew a modified VF-11 or uncertain “unknown older model VF.” Multiple follow on productions were made, with the Final: Dynamite 7 chronicling the last known sighting of Nekki Basara. While the series has many fans, it has an equal, if not greater number of detractors, who pan its light-hearted style and “sillyness.” The maker has rebuffed these comments as he wanted to focus on Firebomber and not the darker aspects of the conflict. Macross Zero: Filmed aboard the Macross Frontier Colony Ship, this production highlighted a little known, and recently declassified, series of battles during the end of the Unification Wars. With no models of the actual craft being available, heavy use of CGI overlays were instead employed to cover up the usage of modern Valkyries and reproductions of other aircraft and vehicles. The release of M0 sparked new debate regarding the identity and parentage of Nekki Basara. Some have now come to speculate that the orphaned Rock Star might actually be the offspring of Sara Nome and Shin Kudo. However, we will likely never know. Macross Frontier: Filmed aboard the Macross Frontier colony following their war with the Varja. As the new NUNS government aboard and SMS were quite willing, actual equipment and locations was used where-ever possible. Like the earlier SW1 docu-dramas, key details were altered during the filming of both the series and movies. In part this was to protect innocent parties, in others, the filmmakers reasonings were less clear. Macross Delta: Waiting until I watch the second movie to write this one up. Thoughts?

Agreed. They keep skirting the line to bring Batman in. What is preventing it? Does Fox have exclusive rights to the character on TV? If they do, that raises an interesting question. Does that mean that mean that Disney now owns the TV rights to Batman? You'd think DC would scramble to get those back if that's the case.

Looks awesome, might be painted resin though, looking at the back.

V/YF-19 Series are tied in my list beside the OG VF-1. The YF-21/VF-22 come a close second. Third would be the VF-31 series. 4th the VF-0D Now this may be considered sacrilege, but I actually don't like the VF-25 series.

Picking up a mint in box Arcadia YF-19 on Firday for $200.

It's Archer vs Tribbles, I'm onboard.

Slight subject change, what do people think of the short Trek's Trailer: Archer vs Tribbles. I am onboard, looks like it'll be a hoot.

A guy locally has one for sale for $300, and I am super tempted, it is my favorite VF-0 variant.

100% agree. One also has to wonder why Picard was given the flagship after the loss of his previous command 9 years earlier. What happened in those intervening years that made SF command think he was Flagship Captain material? Also, the 1701-D is a "flagship" yet carries no flag level officers (Admirals). I know it was for TV budgetary reasons, but it would have made far more sense if the 1701-D often hosted a fleet admiral, who called the D home, but rotated around other ships.

The short service life of NCC-1701 (x)s has always bothered me. The retirement of the Constitution Class spaceframe makes some sense, but for the A-D, the short service lives make no sense, when other ships of the line have service lives of over 100 years. Now, I was not sad to see the D go up, I never liked the design, but its destruction was a just a lazy way to get a shiny new enterprise spun up for the next movie. Also, how the F would Picard be granted command of the E, when he was the one who lost the D? The whole command crew should have been split up and sent to different ships, but that is an argument for another day, along with the horrid career and rank progression of Enterprise Command Level Officers.

Why would the 1701-E be worn out? It was a brand new ship, and if they can keep the Excelsior class online for over a hundred years, why not the Sovereign Class? OR is there some canon explanation that the 1701-E was destroyed at some point before this series?

These leave me with more questions than answers, or desires to see it. Where in the timeline is this? Did they stop/delay judgement day? Where is John Conner? Why do we care about this Dani girl? How/why/by whom was Grace "enhanced?"

Maybe its a later refit.

Holy F, that X-wing is $100MSRP, WTF?

@peter No offense, but the opinions of a stoner are not something I generally take seriously. That being said, I can understand that M7 is not for everyone. But, it probably filled in more of the holes in pre-Earth history of Macross then any other story. And think of it this way. SK has said several times that we have never seen the real story of Macross, but basically Docu-Dramas of the events in each series. That is why there are serious story and design differences between TV/OVA and movies versions of each story. Both are the same story but told through a different lens with different focus behind the "camera." When you look at/watch Macross-7 think of it as the Joel Schumacher retelling of the events. He focusses on the character of Basara, the anti-war rock star, because he was a major figure in the events. But he leaves out his backstory. Where did he learn to fly so well? Why did he become the man he is? (personal head-canon he is the son of Shin Kudo and Sara Nome). Then apply your own mental filter over the story. Really read into the story, at it's core it is a horror story with space vampires and monsters that brought down the Supervision Army and Protoculture. And realize the time at which was made. Anime was largely moving away from the dark, monster stories, into more upbeat offerings. Had M7 been made a few years earlier it would have visually been more like Demon City, or Vampire Hunter-D. All dark shades and harsh lines, and the story would not have had as many goofy, upbeat moments. M7 is a series where you have to look past the first layer into what lies beneath. So for a casual viewer it may not come across as strong, but when you really pay attention and dig into the story, and ignore some of Fire Bomber's more goofy antics, it becomes pretty awesome.

While that is a cool toy, I have two but not enough wings for them, It is still not truly in scale. The Hero Edition one from TRU was actually 1:18 scale, but it didn't have a cockpit or opening wings.

@Seto Kaiba is right. IIRC the biggest thing that prevents Mac7 coming over wasn't so much HG, but the music licensing costs. None of the US distributors wanted to shell out for that.

On the other end of the spectrum, I am getting ready to cut up one of my fighter designs to start my biggest print to date. I will be ordering a lot of different colored filament for this and taking the Bandai path for assembly, printing each section as close to the color is should be. At what scale you ask? 1:18 How big will that be? 2'1.3" Long x 1'5.75" Wide x 4.25" Tall Why? As a display piece at conventions and other book selling opportunities. Will it have a pilot? Yes, customized GI Joe figure. Am I crazy for doing this? Probably. Will I light it up? Unlikely. Full Cockpit? Highly likely, just need to print stickers of the displays.

You know what I want with that Wedge? An in scale X-Wing Cockpit. Time to fire up the 3D Printer.

Yeah, he is pretty small by comparison. One has to wonder why? Um, yes please. No fighting, not my fav Superman movie, but that shot, that looks great. Will he encounter his LoT doppelganger?

It was produced as a last ditch effort to cover the development costs of the series, and possibly convince another animation house that it could be successful. Fortunately, people saw what a garbage fire it turned out to be, and the McKinney novels, (which I did read a young one, before learned better) further confirmed that. That being said, I think I had the artbook at one point and some of the new designs were "interesting." The SDF-3 wasn't a terrible concept, wrapping it in a "Zentraedi" shell, but again, showed the creative bankruptcy, as even their earlier comics, showing Zor with the battle fortress showed a far different design. The Cat Aliens, if fleshed out better, weren't a terrible concept, especially that they couldn't breath Oxygen. Not many sci-fi shows did that back then. Those horned aliens were also an interesting concept, but were never properly explored, no two were alike due to extensive genetic modification. The Crystal aliens were also interesting, but lazily handled, giving them humanoid form. There were just highly derivative, worse they were lazy, taking concept that existed before and "Reimagining" them in the simplest of fashions.

That Ride Armor Mini is pretty cool.

I'd rather not, lol.

That Wedge is a must for me.