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    Would make sense considering their high standards in terms of VFs (and admittedly brazen superiority complex) compared to the regular file NUNS. It does make me wonder, have we ever gotten a full grasp on how many branches SMS and Xaos have all over the galaxy? Xaos seems more or less stuck in the Brisingr Globular Cluster, but considering SMS started as security for a transportation business I wouldn't be surprised if they're practically found on every corner. How could I ever forget Elma and her own personal Fire Valkyrie lmao. Probably wouldn't be surprised if that was customized from a VF-19P. Makes sense, though considering that I'm surprised they somehow had money to get multiple Macross-type carriers as their flagships. On that topic, it is kinda weird that the Aether and Hemera on the Elysion have a class name for their type of ship (The Enterprise-class to be specific) before their mothership. Honestly makes me wonder if they can operate on their own as "Variable Carriers" like the Valhalla III from Digital Mission VF-X. On a separate note, I've heard some discussion on what Macross Delta was originally conceptualized before becoming what it was; specifically with a NUNS protagonist, no love triangle, and having its runtime cut in half so movies can continue where it left off, but I could never find a source on it. Would anyone happen to know where that information came from?
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    You know I get why, considering how tied to the lore VF-X2 is compared to the other video games, but considering how much the world makes a big deal about Zentradi building their own weapons through the Variable Glaug and Feios Valkyrie they wouldn't have the stepping stones to that, like the not-Getter Robo machine in M3 as previously mentioned. Thinking about SMS and Xaos's VFs, a part of me wonders before getting their own respective "hero Valks" I want to know what VFs they used beforehand in their timeframe of being active. SMS I know they had a Frontier local variant of the VF-19 through the VF-19EF, but since that was a joint development with LAI that was connected to the VF-25's development anyways, so did they use their own private aircraft before? And I'm not sure about Xaos except there was that VERY specialized VF-171EX piloted by Kite Kinjo from Macross E, but I wouldn't be surprised since they were stripped of cash as they were, they piloted the more conventional VF-171 units as well.
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    It seems like that's the only book that really goes in detail about the unique enemy designs there. Guess it makes sense, since they only exist due to the modelers seemingly putting more emphasis on the variable fighters than making the battlepods in their more rounder, organic shapes. I do really like how the limitations caused the Stealth Regult, Stealth Fighter Pod, Glaug Kai, and Stealth Quel-Quallie to live up to their namesakes, so they could match how the VFs were leaning more into active stealth systems at the time. Just kinda wish they'd be more elaborated on then just being thrown away when VF-X2 had its massive graphical and gameplay upgrade.
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    It iirc changed him quite a bit too. In the TV series he was just yet another Zentradi in the group that rejected Earth's culture who surrendered after the war as opposed to defecting to Earth like with Britai's group. But in the TV novelization, his rebellion came from being angry with human discrimination against Zentradi despite how much they contributed to humanity's growth, and even joined the Macross Quarter as an ally for the finale. For my ten cents, his more anti-hero character sounded like a more interesting character than what we got animation wise, bonus points that he piloted the Neo Glaug too! The final bit made me consider that in the show proper he got defeated by Alto, but wasn't framed as if he was completely gone like he was going to pop up again.
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    The Varauta Army has always had elusive yet enticing designs from mecha to ships that, past their debut series, never really came up from again in any capacity. So in my journey to find more about them, I discovered that instead of unique Protoculture-esque designs, they were "improvements on base Unified Forces craft." (Macross Chronicle Mechanic: 7 Varauta 04A: Varauta Fleet) Even though Miyatake always conceptualized them with that little lore bit in mind, they were never drawn at what they possibly were before being modified by the Protodevlin. So in a fun exercise, I modified their line art to see how they potentially could've looked as UN vessels. Varauta High Speed Raiding Space Cruiser Varauta Vanguard Frigate Varauta Large Battroid Transport Carrier Of course, because of little we know about them to begin with, I could guess on certain aspects. Some minor modifications involved the black square spots that are found all over UN ship hulls like the Guantanamo and Uraga carriers, while others I removed to make them more "standard" and basic in appearance like some of the extra lines on the "sails." Replacing the high-angle beam guns was a challenge, but I decided to go with more conventional beam guns, the design I borrowed directly from the Zentrad-type stealth frigate. These are only some of them, and I'll try to get to the others when I get the time. Feedback is always welcome!
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    The Model Graphix issue of January 1989 seems to infer there was much more. Those six were from A2 types that were converted from A1 types, and twenty of those were said to be delivered to Karaba. Granted the few B types were also said to be converted from A types as well, but those aren't too bad numbers all things considered, especially when we don't know anything about how many C Types were built too. If that's referring to the Victory Hexa the only difference it states is the head, otherwise it's almost identical to the original. The Victory MSV states that 20 of the original were built, but I'm assuming those are referring to the Core Fighters considering how much the limbs are considered expendable to Uso, lol. Considering the last time we saw them in animation was in Plus with their massive orbital defense, it's a amazing if not too surprising thing to consider that Earth and the Central UN as a whole are kinda broken in terms of military prowess. If not a stock VF-24, then it's more likely to see more detuned ones that were made from the YF-24 Evolution data that was sent to the colony fleets, to begin with. Though considering Cromwell's Battle Astresea, makes me wonder if a NUNS force can have a Macross-type carrier be built not tied to an emigration fleet as a flagship or something of the likes of that. Would make sense. Pretty much every other instance of a VF-11 having a pinpoint barrier (like the Jamming Bird's VF-11D Customs and VF-11C Thunderbolt Interceptor) seems to be custom fitted instead of any standard upgrade. Though personally, it would complement its relatively large shield a bit if implemented in a life extension program. I like your thinking, although we need to be careful else the Macross Galaxy takes that too literally!
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    Did not stop attempts with varying levels of success like the Zeta Plus lineage and the compromises the ZZ production types had to make. Honestly makes the F91 and Victory's limited production more surprising all things considered. Or even (personally) better; have the protagonists have older variable craft fighting those a generation or two higher and have them perform well due to their own skills in flying or tactics and knowing the playing field. Though that'd take a lot since many mecha franchises struggle to keep older designs relevant unless it's tied to a major or main character. Surprised we never see a stock VF-24 physically, export detuned or not, since it seems like the VF-25's design but with delta wings. Though from my previous comment, I'm wondering if any VF generation before it can match its specs, unless the Fold Quartz and EX-Gear make it that much ahead from anything else. Speaking of highly customized/designed variable fighters, I'm wondering about the stock VF-11MAXL; since In the weaponry of Mylene's, it has the pinpoint barrier system like the VF-19. I'd assume it was a Sound Force thing only except Ray's and Veffidas doesn't have it on their VF-17T Custom at all. So I'm assuming that is either something the VF-11MAXL has in general or something that can be ordered to be added by the pilot's order like the unit's manufactured in general.
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    Ironically that probably adds to the VF-31 as my personal favorite of the 5th generation VFs. Not every hero valk needs to be put up on a pedestal as the bestest thing ever for only the main protagonists to be entitled to have like the VF-19 or VF-25, as much as I love the former. Either that or the novelization is following the logic of the Neo Glaug being a lot closer to the regular Glaug in size and without no Battroid transformation, like it was in the game it debuted in. I have to keep in mind the Glaug was already cramped for Zentradi, much less for bigger ones like Kamujin.
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    Yeah was kinda confused considering the rest of the material. But oh well, if we weren't going to have confirmation on Lady M's whole thing there, it's probably gonna be never. Really? Somehow never noticed that. Would make sense considering how thin the limbs are on the Rhea. Although I'd assume like with the Regult it'd make it a bit more cramped than piloting the Rau. With the Variable Glaug I can see it. I was more referring to the Neo Glaug bis from The Ride which both giant and miclone pilots was built for the New UN forces. Then again it still says only a small/petite Meltradi could bring out its true potential, so maybe that still tracks. How is Macross 30's story influenced by the war? And on a side note it's kinda fascinating to me that a game that involves time travel as an excuse to bring characters from every era somehow is one of the most rich in terms of world building and lore; still holding out hope for more translation efforts get to that and The Ride. It's the reason why the Plus-7 era is my absolute favorite in terms of mecha designs; so much variety that I feel is a bit lacking compared to Frontier and Delta. And I'm aware it's due to story reasons for Frontier and how 3D modeling is more expensive and you can't rely on anime magic like with a lot of the designs before, but it still feels different either way.
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    That explains the audacity. Though it makes me wonder; cyborgs can still pilot military craft after Frontier right? Just pushing specifically towards that direction is a no no that the NUNS had and Hemidall disagreed with. Also the time Hikaru made a failed escape on Breetai's ship and Isamu jetted Wang out of the YF-19, yeah. Probably would assume the VF-14 would look different since its canopy isn't enclosed and probably just less alien-y in general. Although considering how NUNS actually treat their Zentradi pilots like people, does make me wonder if the Rhea would have something of the sort despite being a battlesuit, or if the Neo Glaug could fit one for macronized pilots. You'd be SPOILED with choices if a series goes in that era; disregarding the ones we do know like the VF-4, VF-5000, Variable Glaug, etc. There's still unseen designs like the VF-5, the Advanced Valkyrie designs that were semi-accepted into Macross continuity, and the first variable attackers and bombers. Probably would help settle on VF-X2's position in the franchise's continuity, since that also happened within that war, whether it means it was the cause, a byproduct, or something else. Personally, It'd be nice to go with Seto's late 2020's timeframe or even the 2030s since the 2nd generation would still be in some use then alongside the VF-11 and VF-14 (with some extra ones like the VF-15 and VF-16,) or between the Second Unification War and Frontier to show how far and diverse government, military, and culture autonomy can go within the New UN sphere (and admittedly want a time where VF-171s aren't just cannon fodder)
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    Having engines derived from the VF-22 would definitely help I'd reckon. On the topic of General Galaxy VFs, considering the Elgersoln had it's own escape pod when things go rough, it makes me wonder if the VF-14 had the same thing, like how the VF-11 had it's own, as 7 loved to show. Oh well. Going back wouldn't be bad at all, though I'd suppose it would only be to act as set up for another later series, like Zero was to Frontier. It lives on as the SV-154 to an extent...A design we barely see much of in its series, but it counts. If the LV-7s Battroid is the closest thing we have for the Svard itself, wonder what that makes for the shoulders (since the fighters intakes up front don't seem to separate to become those and the arms) and the legs (which look a lot closer to the SV-51s if anything)
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    The designs not revamped for Macross would make for good groundwork to step away from the Frontier/Delta collection of mechs. As much as I enjoyed the VF-171 and the road to the VF-31, I feel like three series in a row with a VF-25 derivative would be a bit too much, especially for a franchise known to do different things per entry. iirc even the story of Air Calvary Chronicles involved different nations interacting with each other with their different VFs.
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    It's a bit of a shame that Kawamori never drew the Battroid form of the Sv-154. Guess it's the curse of being a background VF rearing it's head again. At least judging from the Megaroad-01 in 2012 Flashback, a Megaroad emigration fleet seemed to have a decently big force of military ships, a good chunk of them being Zentradi types and that's not even mentioning the Nupetiet-Vergnitzs in the forefront. Though saying that out loud maybe that's where the Al-Shahal Zentradi garrison got their Thuverl-Salan from too.
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    Well, SMS was established to protect Bilrer's interstellar shipping business after all... Funny enough there IS a UPS-like company in Macross already; Tachyon Express, which is a Zentradi-owned business that at one point used disarmed Queadluun-Raus to handle cargo.
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    Pretty interesting story, especially with Arad as the main character. It's an amazing notion that the Master File pushes, more Protoculture remnants than what there were in the Brisingr Globular Cluster and the worst case scenario of interstellar travelers pushing their weight around in less developed civilizations. Judging from what happens here and in Delta I'm starting to think that Zola was the lucky one in terms of New UN contact! The VF-31's early usage sort of confuses me though, I was under the impression that it was a pretty recent addition to Xaos, more akin to SMS field-testing the VF-25 for the NUNS as they only received the prototype a year prior in Macross: The Ride. So I'm not the only one whose mind went to the Ferengi, right? I love the combination and it's a shame that they're in their mandated cannon fodder role lol. Though with the use of the battlepods I'm assuming that they either were natural giants or had access to miclonization technology like the Zolans? Kinda wondering why the Zentradi would be interested in the star system, unless it was a situation like the Resort Ship where the capture and further investigation of it would give their positions away to the Main Fleet. Considering how the Protoculture essentially made the bodies for the physics-defying Protodevlin, I'm not too surprised that they managed to just, move entire planets around from orbit. Wonder why they'd make an artificial solar system to begin with, that's a fascinating story on its own
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    I thought the YF-30 was planned and built sometime after the events of Frontier, unless its development also went as long as the VF-25 and YF-29. Although the GGCF makes me curious, would this be the Galaxy's fleet general local force, or is it seperate from the main military?
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    Well Macross 30 did have a time travel part that's officially a part of the timeline lol You know with regular aircraft I can understand them only looking like an older design and under the hood there's a new one. But with the reproduction VF-0s and SV-51s, those have to factor in the entire transformation aspect. Would these reproduction models be almost the same as the originals but with token improvements in performance, or basically new models that somehow just look physically the same? I know for gameplay purposes you just want to have a VF-0 like how it is in Zero, but I guess I'm looking for a Watsonian answer on why they'd be commercially sold for combat when there are probably warehouses of VF-11's waiting to be used.
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    I keep forgetting how big it is, considering it needs to comfortably hold 3 giants at the same time. The Stealth Quel-Quallie from Digital Mission VF-X is essentially a heavy bomber. It might be because of the different medium VF-X2 is in and how it hasn't been completely translated into English yet so I can't get a full grasp, but the game makes it feel like The Second Unification War feels a lot less of a wide-galaxy scale event then what later material makes it out to be. The biggest influence you get from it is the general restructure of the NUNS from Frontier and onwards, but how Kaname's home planet is still fighting the war between pro-autonomy and pro-unification sides. Since there's so little known about the NUNS Reserves that Isamu was a part of, I'm wondering myself if, like actual reserve forces, aircraft if not retired from official military use were just retired from front-line duty and kept for emergencies, local forces, remote regions, etc. There's probably a point where you can upgrade them to a point, since I'm not expecting a fleet of VF-11s to be equipped with a panoramic cockpit and pinpoint barrier system, lol. Then again, considering there's a VF-1 retrofitted with EX-Gear... I knew Xaos had money issues but if they couldn't afford something slightly better like even a VF-5000 then that may be an issue lol. Well, that's a bit of a shame. So there'd probably be no more surprise comebacks like the museum the Zentradi Marines had in the first episode lol. Although would that sorta count derivatives of SDF designs like the Queadluun-Rhea or the VF-0? Huh, well that kinda makes sense considering stealth technology in our time was getting a lot better than when Plus was being released. I'd hope VF's based on the Nighthawk and Blackbird would be better suited for stealth, it'd be weird otherwise!
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    Kinda lol. I need to actually play and follow the series. Now I'm imagining an extremely salty Shinsei engineer supporting Anti-UN groups because the NUNS turned down the VF-19 for widescale adoption, who may or may not care about the export laws enforced because of the VF-19's conception. Honestly, I kinda like how we see some like the VF-5000 and VA-3 being used past their prime by the time we see them; it shows the passage of time in the Macross timeline without having to completely boil them down to just being old and useless. I still want to see a bit more about what happened between SDF and Plus, just to get more of a grasp on how big the world got since the advent of emigration fleets and planets. EDIT: IIRC there was a tidbit in either The Ride or the Frontier novelization that even by 2058 the Macross Frontier fleet was still in the process of decommissioning their VF-11s, way long after the move to the VF-171. And that's not even mentioning the (un?)official SW-XAI Schneeblume that used the VF-1 as a reference for a stealth VF to pair up with the VF-17! Honestly, the moment I saw the VF-1EX in Delta with its own EX-Gear system I'm convinced those things will be a universal constant in the franchise. If it means anything, the VF-14 is mentioned to have an airframe that's easy to maintain, so it seems like a sturdy machine that can last a bit more than some of its contemporaries, which probably explains why that and the VA-14 was popular with Zentradi pilots. Having a stealth system before it became the norm with the 4th generation VFs I think is a nice bonus too all things considered.
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    It does kinda remind me of Armored Core in that field, except a lot more dystopian and a lot more casualties in between events depending on the routes you take. You know Frontier and Delta focus so much on General Galaxy's shady business and connections, sometimes I wonder if Shinsei has some dirt and/or blood on their hands. Maybe as a part of a life extension service like what the VF-1X and similar variants went through, I can see it. Either that or as modified export craft like the VF-5000G and VF-19P. Heck looking deeper the Elgerzorene has the same max cruising speed as both the VF-17 and VF-171 at 30,000+ m Mach 21+. So maybe the Gustav isn't really all that different from the original craft and the VF-11 were just very unlucky to fight practically an army of 4th generation Valkyries.
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    And here I thought the ban on cybernetics would make the VF-27 follow suit. I'd assume most NUNS territory probably wouldn't adopt it since either the VF-24 or VF-25 are more better options in flexibility. In the same vein of antagonist, maybe illegal VFs, I'm almost certain aside from Fasces no one adopted the Varauta Army variable craft, almost definitely because of the Spiritia absorption beams and a little more because the Fz-109's base model VF-14 wasn't as popular as the VF-11. Although looking through the stats, comparing the M3 VF-14 and Fz-109F, the latter has a noticeably higher standard cruising speed (10,000 m Mach 4.5+ compared to 10,000 m Mach 3.8+) and I think it's a safe bet that the max cruising speed is much higher. It strikes me as odd since they both use the same type of Shinnakasu/Daimler FF-2770D thermonuclear turbine engines and P&W / Daimler HMM-5C thrusters, unless the airframe was modified to the extent that it can handle quicker speeds.
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    I'm wondering if after all of that they only adopted the VF-19 and tried to make them more pilot-friendly through the VF-19F and S types in a extreme sunk-cost fallacy situation by that point lmao.
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    And we thought the VF-19 lineage was too much of an ace pilot/main protagonist Valkyrie lmao. At least if a fleet is allowed they could make enough for a team or a squadron. The YF-29 is probably the closest we get to a Gundam-type mentality in Kawamori's Macross.
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    Thinking about the Varauta ships and how before we saw them in 7 proper they were all UN ships. It got me to wonder if their anti-ship high-angle beam guns was something that was always in the original design or something the Protodevlin added for their modifications. As far as I know, nothing else in the franchise has those types of angling beams, although I remember someone saying the Marduk ships in Macross II had them as well.
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    It makes the SDFN-class all the weirder for existing, wouldn't it? Considering it's a class built from a modified ship that was a massive improv on all fronts and still has a sizable civilian convoy of ~7000. Though I suppose it's an outlier with a very specific role, it is noticeably more offensive than a Megaroad or the Island Class by a longshot. The account also interestingly has two NUNS modified versions of the Medium Sized Gun Destroyer; a typical version and a more recent 2060 one. Not sure the specific details, but I could imagine instead of just modified ships there would be new Zentradi hulls built afterwards for their proven reliability
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