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19 hours ago, TG Remix said:

I'm also a bit surprised that the Neo Nupetiet Vergnitzs weren't there in the volume at all, especially since the book also loved to put a bow cannon at any chance they could. It also made a Zentradi-styled Stealth Cruiser akin to the Stealth frigate in 7.

 

Wonder if my mental image of a lone Zentradi battleship leading a small colony ship would be probably in that case, anything bigger than a Gun Destroyer more or less can hold an entire UN defense fleet within itself I reckon.

 

I got the impression that the New UN post-SWI had a lot of mixed craft squadrons consisting of variable fighters, battlepods, and battlesuits. Although that may or may not be an effect of the ragtag nature of Earth's condition at that point before things got more standardized. The Queadluun series was also said to be liked for its dogfighting capabilities so I'd assume more than the Spacy Marines would use them.  

Now I see the word "legacy," I'm kinda wondering if we know more about the NUNS Reserve service aside from that Isamu himself was a part of it when he was chosen to be a YF-24 test pilot.

 

I'd honestly assumed that any Supervision Army stuff would be more akin to how the Varauta Army's Valkyries looked since they were heavily modified UN variable craft.

Maybe so. I wouldn't be surprised if Shoji Kawamori had some sketch drawings of the Supervision Army's Varauta inspired design. 

22 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Nope.

As revealed in Macross 7, the Supervision Army wasn't some meticulously planned and painstakingly equipped standing army like the Zentradi.  It was a messy ad hoc armed force that the Protodeviln threw together on the fly using the ships, mecha, and factory satellites they were able to capture when they attacked a fleet/planet and their soldiers were their spiritia-drained Protoculture and Zentradi victims.  The Supervision Army's Protodeviln leaders were only active for around a year before they were sealed by the Protoculture, so the Supervision Army likely didn't have any time to develop original weapons... assuming the spiritia-drained and brainwashed Protoculture civilians who were a part of it initially were capable of doing so in their reduced mental state.  The overwhelming majority of the Supervision Army would have been, and likely still is, made up of Zentradi as they were the Protoculture's armed forces.

Macross Chronicle makes several offhand mentions in coverage of Macross Zero designs and a few general Technology sheets that suggest that the United Nations investigators and/or OTEC found battle pods aboard the derelict and used them to benchmark offensive and defensive capabilities for development of Earth's "anti-giant" weapons.

The Earth Unification Government's decision to develop humanoid robotic weapons approximately 10 meters tall was in expectation of fighting a land war against the giants, and specifically the prospect of engaging in hand-to-hand combat.  That pursuit yielded two competing design concepts: Destroids and Battroids.  They were initially fairly similar, but would evolve in different directions.  Destroids would evolve from their original Mobile Suit-like concept into the walking tanks and artillery pieces we know from Super Dimension Fortress Macross, while Battroid development merged with the nascent Variable Fighter program to become its humanoid robot form.

Interesting. Did the MC describe what the battlepods look like? In your own guess, do you think their mechas was fairly similar to Dolza's Zentraedi fleet? 

Pure speculation. But I wonder if the mecha design to the Supervision Army is similar to Valkyrie Battroids? Maybe the UN Spacy found mechas that they based their Battroids design from? 

11 hours ago, TG Remix said:

Honestly, it's my least favorite design myself, but mostly because it doesn't feel consistent with the design pathos of the battle pods and Queadluun-Rau; looking more industrial instead of sleek and without the "eye-sensor" the other mechs have. It's a bit telling that with its redesign by Yutaka Izubuchi in the movie it takes the aesthetics from the latter to fit in.

I agree with the common eye sensor. Even the Gnerl and Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout Pod has the eye sensors and feels they belong more in line with Zentreadi aesthetics. 

The DYRL Nousjadeul-Ger are one of my favourite mecha in Macross and I'm happy it got a redesign for the film. 

However, if the tv show male suit had somewhat the design similar to Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross Bioroid suits like the examples here, they would look more in line with Zentraedi aesthetic despite not having the eye sensors. But at least the streamlined and more biomechanical figures would. Just add the turret and booster thrusters. 

17 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

That's a rather unfair and insulting statement.  There's nothing wrong with the TV version of the Nousjadeul-Ger, and it definitely does not look like it was made from wreckage.

 

Sorry for that. I will try to say this in a more diplomatic way: The male suit parts are so inconsistent. The penguin flat feet and the helmet doesn't match with the overall streamlined body. 

On 11/8/2023 at 11:24 PM, Seto Kaiba said:

Now... when all's said and done, I doubt a species of clone soldiers engineered and indoctrinated for nothing but military service and warfare have a concept of gendered colors.

Hell, the idea that pink and blue are associated with girls and boys respectively is a relatively recent contrivance dating back only as far as the 1950s.

 

That said, it is theoretically possible that a male Zentradi could operate the Queadluun-Rau and we do see male operators of the New UN Forces derivative model Queadluun-Rhea.

Macross Chronicle suggests that the reason there aren't male Queadluun-Rau pilots in the Zentradi forces is that the (male) Zentradi lacked the reflexes and g-force resistance to draw out the full potential of the Queadluun-series because they were designed for strength and durability.  The Protoculture's response to the male Zentradi being unable to use the Queadluun-Rau effectively was not to tone its performance down, but to use their mastery of genetic science to build a better pilot in the form of the female Zentradi.

Its complexity and difficulty of manufacture meant that the few Queadluun-Rau battle suits produced went to elite female units where the very best pilots would get them.

Ah almost forgot about the Queadlunn-Rhea. 

Honestlu and I probably said it before, I never liked the tv-version of the Nousjadeul-ger. It looks like it's been put together from a pile of wreckages. Would rather liked if there were a male version of the Queadluun like the Rhea for the tv-series. While the organic Nousjadeul-Ger Dyrl suits more for the more organic Zentraedi inspiration in the film. 

17 minutes ago, Bolt said:

I think it has more to do with the Meltrandi physique more suited to handle the Quead ..

It wasn't about preference or TV or DYRL? design, or fan made color scheme. 

So a male Zentraedi would be too big to fit in the suit? I thought they were used to uncomfortable cockpit like with the Regult. 

Could male Zentraedi operate the Queadluun-Rau? There are several color themes for it and males could go for the darker color ones? Or is the design too ''feminine'' for males? 

Something like this?

When we are still in the subject of ships here, is there any official sketch and concept art of the SDF1 before it crashes on Earth?

Could it look something like this? Another question: It was piloted by giant Supervision Zentraedis right? 

On 10/29/2023 at 12:27 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

It's a completely separate craft from the Quel Quallie theater scout, but yeah that's what I was referring to as a purpose-built attack unit.

It's called just "Heavy Attack Craft".  It's actually a bit smaller than the Quel Quallie and has a two-man crew instead of three, but it also punches WAY above its weight class since its primary armament is a guided focusing beam cannon.  In short, this is an aircraft built around the kind of long-range particle beam cannon that would ordinarily be mounted on the gun turrets of a Zentradi capital ship.  Yes, this is a naval cannon with wings and an AA gun for self-defense.

It's a cool ship design. It even has the cyclops eye like the Regult and Nousjadeul-Ger(DYRL). Shame we didn't see more of it. 

3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Two reasons:

1. Design.  The Quel Quallie was designed to be a reconnaissance/electronic warfare/signals intelligence platform and equipped appropriately.  Its armor is heavy to protect the specialist crew and sensitive electronics, but its armament is light for its size and mainly defensive.  Most Zentradi equipment is engineered with a specific purpose or role in mind, so presumably the role of a larger attacker would be given to something like the heavy attack craft seen in DYRL?. 

You mean this craft right? Was that supposed to be the movie version of the Quel Quallie as a offensive attack wehicle?

Why did the Zentraedi use Boquomouxy Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout Pod only as a scout vehicle? It seems well armed, big and can carry a handful of Zentreadi soldiers. Couldn't they have used it as a offensive attack vehicle?

Maybe the SDF-1 Supervision Army version looked something like this before it got renovated?

I wonder if some of the ship and mecha designs of the Varuta army is very much the same as the Supervision ones. The Zentraedi didn't changed that much over the centuries with their vehicles, so maybe it was the same with the Supervision Army. 

So the Supervision Army might something similar to the Varuta forces?

3 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

The Supervision Army was an ad hoc force made up of the Protoculture and Zentradi who were captured, drained of their spiritia, and subjected to mind control by the Protodeviln to sustain the Protodeviln's lives by capturing more sources of spiritia.

Okey so they were a mix of giants and human sized personell? 

Don't know if this has been answered here, but was the Supervision Army just another Zentraedi clone faction? Were they giant humanoids like the Zentraedi or human size? 

Can the Golg Gants Charts ship classified as a fighter pod like the Gnerl? Doesn't seem like the Gnerl exist in DYRL. 

9 hours ago, nightmareB4macross said:

Blasphemy.

Honestly, the original is still much preferred.

But…to each his own.

My feeling is they should have gone for DYRL version for the SDFM show as well. Since the Queadluun-rau in both media are almost identical, they should have done the same for the Nousjadeul-ger too. 

This is from ''R'' comics but I like it. It's like a hybrid of the TV and Dyrl version. The suit still retains the feet and the overall bulky design from the tv-version, but the turret and head are similar to DYRL. Took screenshots of the suit. 

On 5/11/2022 at 12:50 PM, Podtastic said:

Are you the one who coloured that Hasegawa Regult pink on FB? Actually that didnt look bad, what I couldnt get behind was the walkure logo on it.

Nah it wasn't me but it was really well done!

Added the Regult cyclop eye visior on to the Gnerl pod.

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After helping steer the ship as the main director on Marvel’s Hawkeye series, Rhys Thomas has been set to direct Mark Canton and Gianni Nunnari’s Robotech for Sony Pictures. The film is currently in development with the script by Marcum & Holloway with a rewrite by Brian Gatewood and Alessandro Tanaka. Harmony Gold also is involved.

Based on the popular ’80s anime TV series, Robotech is set in a time when Earth has developed giant robots from the technology of an alien spacecraft that crashed on a South Pacific island and now is using that technology to fight off an impending alien invasion.

Thomas is flying high after directing and executive producing the Disney+ Marvel series Hawkeye, with Jeremy Renner reprising his Avengers role. Thomas also is highly regarded in the comedy world for his work on Saturday Night Live and the Emmy-nominated IFC series Documentary Now!, which he co-created with Fred Armisen, Bill Hader and Seth Meyers and directed. Thomas received four Emmy nominations for Documentary Now! and is in production on Season 4.

Gatewood & Tanaka’s feature Sharper sold in a bidding war to Apple and A24, with Julianne Moore attached to star. Ben Curon directed the film co-starring Sebastian Stan, which is in post-production. Gatewood & Tanaka are writing Untitled Asian American Heist Project for Amazon. Canton/Nunnari Productions’ credits include 300 and Immortals, and Canton is an executive producer of the Power universe for Starz.

Thomas is represented by WME, 3 Arts Entertainment and Ziffren Brittenham. Gatewood and Tanaka are repped by UTA, Management 360, Hansen Jacobson Teller.

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Could a show soley focusing on these factions work and would you be interested?

16 hours ago, Podtastic said:

They should just give us both versions.

Another thing I want is an intermediate version of SDF Zentraedi soldier armour, with design elements of both heavy and light armour combined. They did something like that in Robotech Love and War.

Why do the infamous Robotech always have some cool stories?? Thanks for the tips!