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Doesn't it all depend on the source of yellowing? If the yellowing is from a surface deposit, that's one thing. If it's from a change in the actual material, that's quite different. You might be able to clean off a surface deposit, or even a deposit that's gotten into the "pores" of the underlying material, using an appropriate solvent (maybe water) or detergent. If the plastic and/or paint has changed chemically, you'd have to either scrape off the top layer or reverse the chemical process.

I don't have time to do any scans or to review the movie right now, but looking in the film book, I see that when Roy shoots Kamujin, K isn't wearing an N-Ger. But there is an N-Ger present just before that moment. Also, I just received my copy of TIA 5 (the one with pictures of the TV cast on the cover), and in it there's a closeup painting of an N-Ger pilot that makes it look like the pilot's head goes into the head of the mecha, while his hands go onto controls located in the projecting portion of the chest.

Someone whose ebay ID looks familiar just bought that one... I don't think I've ever heard of the movie, but now I want to see it. Fortunately, I have a multi-region player. I have seen Bakshi's Fritz the Cat, which I liked a lot even though I think Robert Crumb (who created the character in his comic strips) had some kind of problem with it. I also really liked Bakshi's Wizards, a very dark fantasy/scifi film. Strangely, I've never seen his Lord of the Rings.

Sorry to go off topic, but...ick. I really hate the idea of a "Boeing F-15" or "Boeing F-18".

If the ship stayed intact enough to look like a leaning tower, I don't think it hit that hard. The problem with comparing the Zentradi ships to the comet that wiped out the dinosaurs, is the comet had a massive velocity relative to the earth. Maybe 100,000 km/hr. That, and its size, means the impact carried a huge amount of kinetic energy. Now, when the ASS-1 (Macross) hit the earth, it caused a lot of destruction, but it wasn't coming out of orbit--meaning the relative velocity could also have been quite great. (Though not so great as to result in the ship being vaporized by impact.) I think the falling Zentradi ships (and pieces of ships) caused a good amount of damage, but probably fairly localized. Pollution would be a greater factor.

Well, take a look at the drawing I scanned from TIA. That's one big group shot--I didn't do any cutting and pasting other than what was necessary to overcome the way the picture is split across two pages. It would be interesting to compare clips of the scenes in DYRL where Hikaru saves Minmay from an N-Ger at the beginning, and where N-gers grapple Hikaru & Minmay's VT-1. Basically, it looks like the N-ger is a little too skinny for a Zentradi to fit entirely into the mech's body. The proportions suggest that his legs and/or arms must go partway into the legs/arms of the N-ger, though not beyond the elbow/knee joints. By the way are you sure that Kamujin gets to use an N-ger in the movie?

I think you mean the old Takatoku. Bandai never did Max & Millia before the reissue.

I found another source for Zentradi height: the February 25, 2002, court judgment in Big West and Studio Nue's lawsuit against Tatsunoko Productions. In the section listing uncontested facts, item #3 states that the Zentradi are 10 m tall. So we now know the legal height of a Zentradi.

Wrylac, There's an error in the translation you posted by Naoko of the 2003.01.20 decision. Naoko has It should read "plaintiff", not "defendant". The original text of the judgment translates to (You can use excite.co.jp's amikai-based translator. It's much better than babelfish.) And indeed, if we read the next sentence of Naoko's translation, we see: This makes clear that the works referred to are those of the plaintiff, Tatsunoko, not the defendant, Big West. Incidentally, although Naoko's translation agrees with the original which I found online in general outline and fact, it seems to be cut down in places. For example, the conclusion of Naoko's translation reads: While the original has (via the same online translator, and a bit unclearly) The final sentence seems to refer to Tatsunoko's second claim about Big West/Studio Nue using the first lawsuit to obstruct Tatsunoko from showing and distributing the animation. This claim was rejected on the grounds that BW/SN had a legitimate case. It seems that TP may have been fishing for a reversal of the earlier decision.

I know what you meant. Should have put a wink. Ohhhhh.... I think so. But it's funny to realize how what we know from SDF Macross colors our interpretation of what we actually see in DYRL. If we didn't see SDF Macross, we might be more inclined to assume that yes, Britai did kill most of the human race before he switched sides. Similarly, based on SDFM, we accept that Max has somehow brought the Meltrandi over to our side by the end of the movie. This was elaborated in a scene that got cut; however, if all we know is what we see in the movie, we might guess that Max basically deserted to the enemy 2/3 of the way through the film.

Continuing my efforts to catalog/organize the governing documents... I now see that the translation posted by WDC on Oct 31 2003, 02:41 PM, is the concluding day of oral proceedings from Tokyo District Court Case No. 6447, whose final judgment appeared on January 20, 2003. Why these proceedings already contain a judgment, and why the presiding judges are different, remains a mystery to me. Also, I've been unable to find a Japanese original of the proceedings. I have found the Japanese originals of all the rulings. They're located at two sites; here are links to them at each site. courtdomino2.courts.go.jp 2002.02.25 2002.10.02 2003.01.20 2003.09.25 www.translan.com 2002.02.25 2002.10.02 2003.01.20 2003.09.25

No. You're right that there's a lot of pointless (or at least groundless) speculation going on, but the above statement is simply more speculation.

I think maybe the Earth lay on the course to Bodolza's ship, but Bodolza's ship was far away (probably outside the Solar System). If he'd been hanging around the Earth the whole time, he'd either have intercepted the Macross or at least the Macross would have detected him and his fleet as it arrived on Earth. Instead, we see the Macross pick up Hikaru & Misa, then there's a fight with the Meltrans, and then Bodolza's fleet arrives and proposes a truce. (Bodolza's true intention being to learn whatever secrets of Protoculture he can to gain an advantage over the Meltrandi.)

Uxi: by "DYRL continuity" I just mean "the sequence of events in the DYRL version of the story". Nightbat: I see your point. Yes, the Macross probably did fire the first shot, and that would have triggered the Zentradi attack. Edit: We'll have to review the opening bits, Wrylac.

Look at the toys section on the front page of MW. Graham has a set of 1/60 transformation instructions. Three tips: 1) Don't expect full shoulder mobility once it's transformed properly. If you try to move the shoulders too far, the chestplate will disconnect from the backplate. Drifand wrote an article on (partially) fixing this, I think over at toyboxdx.com. 2) Graham's instructions say to use a tool to remove the plug that fills the hole in the nose where the legs go in. You don't really need a tool. Just push the left leg in first, and the plug will come out the other side. 3) The little blisters on the hip joints are latches. Moving them back and forth unlocks and locks the legs onto the Valkyrie in jet mode.

Who wiped out the population of the Earth in DYRL? From all appearances, it seems likely that Britai nearly exterminated the human race. Of course, it's possible that someone else did so (or at least, it's possible that Britai was acting on direct orders from Bodolza), but...Occam's razor and all that. But then--why was the Earth flattened? In the TV show, Bodolza does it to destroy the threat to Zentradi discipline posed by Earth culture. But in DYRL, Bodolza doesn't find out about the threat until after the destruction. So in DYRL-continuity, can we conclude that Zentradi standard operating procedure is simply to smash every populated planet they come across?

Re: Yamato's Q-Rau--a lot of people noticed that it's too big for the 1/60 Valkyrie, which spurred speculation that it was actually 1/48. In the end, either by proof or surmise, it was generally agreed that the Q-Rau in the picture is probably a super-scale prototype which will be shrunk down for production. (Apparently this is standard procedure to make detailing easier on the prototypes.) Re: Kamjin's height--where do you get his height as 11m? The only official stat I could find for any Zentradi were Britai (13.54 m) and Millia (8.55 m). (The listing for Britai also has 11.3 m in brackets. Not sure if this is an alternate stat from DYRL.) I used the 10 m figure for an average Zentradi for lack of anything better. I have weak evidence in the fact that the Robotech FAQ uses that figure, and Egan Loo doesn't correct it in the errata he wrote for RT FAQ 0.99.

The Macross 3 boxed set being released by Manga reportedly has the M+ OVA and MII, and not the M+ movie version. Read all about it in this thread.

Not dodgin' nuthin'. I have yet to see an translation that says Tatsunoko was granted copyright without "Moral Rights." I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with your detective work. I'm sure Wrylac and I have plenty to disagree about, but I believe he is correct when he says that "individual right of author", as used in his friend's translation of the January 20, 2003, ruling, means "moral right" as defined in Japanese copyright law. Reference 1: http://news.braina.com/2003/0122/judge_200...01_0010___.html Run it through any translator you wish (I recommend against babelfish; try Excite.jp or nifty.com; this is also useful), cut the text down bit by bit, and you will be able to isolate the term for "individual right of author". It is 著作者人格権 Reference 2: http://www.jasrac.or.jp/profile/copyright/person.html (Edit: See also http://cozylaw.com/copy/tyosakuken/jinkakuken.htm ) Again, run it through a translator and note that the same characters are used. Then look at how it is defined: The explanatory text makes clear that these are the same as the three portions of Moral Right as shown here. I.e., right to control modification, right to indication of authorship, and right to control divulgence (i.e., whether the work is released). Furthermore, the moral rights of authors are distinguished from the economic rights of authors, with the latter explicitly including the right to create and exploit derivative works. But does this mean that the courts have judged that Tatsunoko has the right to create and exploit derivatives of SDF Macross, while Big West does not? In my opinion, not necessarily. To do so, it would have to explicitly overrule the memorandum between BW and TP of 10/1/1982, and I don't see that it either directly comments on the memorandum (e.g., clarifying the terms) or modifies it. The next question: is the memorandum publicly available, or not? I've seen posts which imply both. Edit: Actually, before going on to the memorandum, I'd add that the Jan. 2003 ruling gave TP copyright under Article 29, Section 1 of the copyright law. Reviewing the information found here, I gather that copyright really only pertains to the right to broadcast and otherwise disseminate the work. I.e., a narrower but quite reasonable interpretation of the ruling is that it simply affirms that TP has the right to broadcast SDF Macross.

I do think things are getting repetitive, and I have to apologize for contributing to that since I probably asked the same question twice (about BW/Nue being able to stop Robotech on the grounds that it involves hacking up Macross). Let me try to make partial amends by clearing the air a bit. Regardless of what the translations mean, let's see if we can determine what the governing documents are and what they govern. I have: 1) The memorandum between BW/Nue and Tatsunoko dated 10/1/82. Grants international distribution and merchandising of SDF Macross, as well as a cut of domestic merchandising profits, to Tatsunoko. Source: Animerica 01/2003 posted: Oct 29 2003, 09:44 PM by Apollo Leader. Also mentioned in the court judgment of 1/20/2003. As far as I know, the memorandum is silent on the issue of domestic and international derivatives. 2) Memorandum/contract between Tatsunoko and HG. Exact terms secret, but HG is using it to claim full international distribution, merchandising, and derivative rights. 3) Ruling of 2/25/2002 by Tokyo District Court. 4) Ruling of October, 2002, by Tokyo High Court. Referenced in articles on 1/20/2003 ruling. This may be the ruling referenced here; i.e., on October 2, 2002, Tokyo High Court rejects Tatsunoko's appeal of the February ruling. 5) Ruling of 1/20/2003, by Tokyo District Court. 6) Ruling of 9/25/2003, by Tokyo High Court. Confirms the January, 2003, ruling. Now, it's generally agreed that (3) & (4) were wins for BW/Nue, granting them rights to all the designs for SDF Macross, while (5) & (6) were wins for TP, granting rights to the animation of SDF Macross. Rights to derivatives (including merchandising of derivatives), both domestic and international, is key point of contention. All of the rulings apparently only pertain directly to the domestic rights but they could affect international rights if it turns out that HG is claiming rights to derivatives that Tatsunoko couldn't possibly grant, or conversely, if BW/Nue lack rights to any derivatives at all.

Regardless of what the courts say, the argument will end if the various parties come to an agreement. I think it'll also probably end if there are any more Macross products released in North America and if HG fails to get them stopped. That is, we can argue about what the courts say (especially when we're trying to decipher translations of Japanese legal writing), but when we see what they do/don't do, we'll have the answers. Anyway, I may be forgetting what's been said before, but if we agree that Studio Nue possesses the Moral Right of authorship, does that mean that they could stop (retroactively?) the editing and modification of Macross to fit it into Robotech? See Article 20 here. Edit: Hm--I guess that depends on the whether the memorandum with BW and Nue gave TP full author's right outside of Japan.

I don't know, but the Chronology just has Hm. Just saw bsu legato's post--where is that from about the "transmissions emanating from a black hole"?

I'm skeptical of your argument, wrylac, but if you're right, then Tatsunoko is probably going to find itself engaged by Bandai either in negotiations or further legal battles. After all, Bandai is actively involved in producing "Macross derivatives" in the form of an OAV and a video game, and while they may not care about the international market, your interpretation would mean a direct threat to their current investments in the Japanese market.

It was originally sold under the Matchbox brand name, then with a Harmony Gold label, and finally by Playmates as part of the Exo-Squad line. Neither Bandai nor Takatoku ever sold that particular toy. As for the original creator of the molds and/or manufacturer, I'm not sure. Some of the Matchbox stuff is known to be repainted/remodeled versions of the Takatoku toys (1/3000 and 1/6300 SDF-1, 3" destroids, Monster) and I think (some of) those were actually manufactured by Bandai. So it's conceivable that Bandai also made some of the other Matchbox stuff, but if they did, it's probably printed somewhere on the toy.

I've been wondering if there might be a correlation between liking/hating M7 and liking/hating other anime. For example, even though I wasn't crazy about the initial eps., I could at least tolerate them. Now, could that be related to the fact that I do like Sailor Moon, Kimagure Orange Road, Ranma 1/2, Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, Dirty Pair (the little that I've seen), and I think Ah My Goddess and Tenchi Muyo are at least "okay"? All are kinda silly and many of them are character-oriented school comedies. I like a lot of other stuff, but of the lot, those anime seem like they might be the best indicators of whether you'll like M7 or not.