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It's the same guy. Many animation framing companies recommend that lab. Give him a call and ask, he knows a lot about the anime cels from the 80's and how they were made. You can send a piece from your collection to him to evaluate. The man gives lectures around the world teaching on art preservation and restoration.

wow, yea I guess it's worth it if it's 1-200 dollars which I think that's his price range for some really key pieces. I want to have some cels separated from backgrounds that are stuck. He said to send them in to check them out to see what can be done.

https://www.srlabs.com/ Ron Stark, he's been doing it for over 40 years VERY informative. I learned a lot from him.

Thanks for the advice guys, what about sending it to this pro that does the preservation? He said the inspection is free but most times all pieces need to be treated and acid removed from the paper with some type of calcium treatment.

I agree and that definitely makes sense that’s what that professional guy told me that everyone would be doing it if it was a process that worked however I don’t think people would like to have their art pieces in resin even if it did work. I guess I can ask the company if this process will illuminate hydrolysis. It’s really a shame because you can preserve Nice piece and it can maybe last for 10 or 20 years or so and then start deteriorating from within possibly but I wonder how much life these cels/ back rounds currently have being in their mid-30s .. if they last another 50 years or so that would be pretty cool but who knows .. I guess really the best way to preserve them if they’re framed is to make sure that the celluloids Have ample space between them and the background as well as being in a room that is not really hot or humid And keeping it away from sunlight.

I'm still stuck on the idea of sealing art. I spoke with apparently the most professional animation art preservation dude around and he said it's a bad idea because if it deteriorates in the resin there is no turning back.. I think that the art can be preserved perfectly and last MANY more years in resin. Aside form discoloration being exposed to light it should be good. This company has a resin specifically made for sealing art and has UV protection as well. They suggested the art be sealed first to prevent any gases from being emitted from the background causing bubbles. I still strongly feel that it could be a good idea if done by a professional. There should be groups or resin experts that can do it. From what this animation preservation guy told me is that everyday is like playing with fire not having the cels/backgrounds treated and deacidified for they were not made to last at all. The backgrounds are not acid free paper and the paint from the cels emit a gas that will destroy all of it. I wonder how long they can last... I like to keep my key cels framed but in areas that are dark in the room, not directly in front of sunlight/artificial light. Thoughts? Sorry for bringing this up again I just keep thinking about it. https://www.artresin.com/blogs/artresin/should-i-seal-my-artwork-before-i-resin "Thanks for contacting us Yes!! You certainly can use ArtResin over your pieces! Now I would suggest using a pre-sealant on them prior to applying the resin. Many papers and sometimes inks can off-gas and create bubbles in the resin as it cures. By creating this barrier with your pre-sealant it will help to prevent this from happening. We do not favor any one sealant but I might suggest reaching out to your local craft store to see if they recommend one that will work well with your art. Here is our most recent blog on sealing your art, it should also be of help: https://www.artresin.com/blogs/artresin/should-i-seal-my-artwork-before-i-resin Our FAQ has a wealth of knowledge to help you get started: www.artresin.com/faq As always we suggest doing a trial run on a non masterpiece to be sure you will have to results you desire. "

When I get on my computer later tonight I’ll verify if it was used on the show or not

I wonder how hot and if it’s enough to damage the piece unless something could be put over the background prior to the resin being poured over it to prevent the heat from damaging it there must be a way to preserve this art permanently sunlight can’t damage it but you can get some type of “sunglasses“ they can go over like shades and that’s your leisure you can remove it to look at the art there must be a way to be able to display it without it deteriorating ...

You are right about the light factor maybe there could be an extra coat of some type of protection but I feel that if the background and the Cel weather slightly separated in different layers with in the resin or stuck together it would preserve it for such a long time like a very thin block of resin . It would definitely need to be tried on cheaper pieces just to experiment with it . It is just so frustrating that framing it is not really good and shortens the life of the art but the question is is some of these pieces still look really good even with vinegar syndrome after 36 years or so so I wonder how much longer they have before they completely disintegrate ..

Thanks for the information hey I just had this crazy idea !! What if you could seal the Cel and background in resin!!!?!?! It would be preserved like forever you can have a matte finish to the resin or a glass you will never have to worry about it deteriorating ever !! Or like you see animal specimens or flowers that are in solid resin cubes they would last forever !! Any thoughts on that?

I spoke with a professional art restorator/conservator and we were discussing framing cels with backgrounds. He said that these Macross cels/drawings and backgrounds need to be deacidified with some type of calcium treatment or something like that. He said the paper that the backgrounds were on were not acid free. Also, he said acid free portfolio album's backing matte etc is not acid free. It is made acid free but once it touches the air the acid from the water in the air attaches to it so it's not truly acid free. I found all of this info to be very interesting cause I like to frame some good cels instead of keeping them in a dark storage room. Obviously not to be in any direct light but I assumed that just UV protection acrylic glass and separate between the multi-layered cels and background by a few mm would suffice. He said it doesn't.. It just really sucks that you have to worry about this stuff. He also mentioned that if the lines in the cel are turning brown that it's a sign that the cel is started to disintegrate. The treatment for each background and drawing to make it essentially acid free is around $80-120 a piece. I wonder how long these will last without getting to the "oh crap" stage. Most of every cel, background, drawing that I have seem to be in beautiful immaculate condition aside from the black lines turning brown on the cel. Cels stuck to backgrounds he said is a big big issue and it can deteriorate completely in a short period of time. I know this has been discussed many times, however, I feel like this is some new important information that I never knew ( or some of it) .Any thoughts?

I'd like to stop the discussion about me reselling cels, quit dogging me and that's it. Whenever I post a new cel someone almost immediately has a comment to say or refer to me as a "dirty scalper" etc.. I LOVE Macross and collecting the cels. I happen to resell/trade them from time to time that's it period.

Dude, whatever if I don't buy, 100% other ebay scalpers will like urbanthj. I have seen it then relisted quickly at a MUCH higher price. A lot of them I keep as well, they probably don't. I don't do it really to help others but in a way it really is beneficial like I said a cel that will sell for 30 I resell for 120 for example I'd be lucky to break even. Why? The proxy bidding fees, shipping, ebay sellers fees and shipping to the buyer what do ya make a few bux? Now that same 30 dollar cel if bought by a japanese scalper would sell it maybe for 300 and not incur a lot of the additional fees PLUS charge you shipping..

Exactly!! Hahaha., jk. Nothing wrong with buying, keeping some and selling the rest, what I do is beneficial at the end of the day. Gettin cels out of Japan and people outside of japan can buy at decent prices. No need to exlpain myself to anyone anyways. I am a huge Macross fan and love collecting nice cels, selling some too.

This one sold for over 23k a while back. Wow. https://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/item/itemInfoEn.html?index=266361

I just hold on to some and sell the rest, in a way like i said it's beneficial. people outside of japan can have the opportunity to buy some cels, In some cases I make some money back on expensive cels that I bought, it raises the value of everyone's cels here and the scalpers that are charging an arm and a leg it drives them away from the Macross cels.

The Max cel didn't have the background though, it was just the cel. I also wonder, I mean you can easily verify the authenticity of the cels on YJ as you can with Mandarake. I seriously wonder who is paying so much. The last Mandarake auction had Douga selling for such high prices. I'm thinking it was one person that was bidding on all of them. The storyboard for the last episode sold for over $6,000.00.

I am collecting. I did purchase many cels recently and am keeping the ones that I like. Some of the cheaper ones sold I decided to buy and resell, if not me uTHJ and others will list them at astronomical prices. Actually, a majority of the cels after they have been sold and I get almost exactly what I paid for them. for example, a cel that I paid 50 for with all expenses of getting it here I'm at 80+ if I resell for 120-150 after ebay expenses and shipping I break even or make a few bux so it's actually beneficial. A cel that I'd sell for 200, UTHJ or silverdrago would list for 400 or so. Also, when they sell for higher prices your cels values will go up as well.