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They had one episode when Baltar and the Eastern Army-guys from Terra took captive the Council of Twelve to escape the Galactica(wow, that's a lot of proper nouns), and they had one where one of Baltar's cronies set Starbuck up for murder. None of these seem anything like the premise of tonight's show.

Same here

Did you PM them? Those pop up right when they are sent to me, so they're hard to miss. I never even heard of this new rule (although my activity here has dropped). It's sad, I always liked Kin's ones.

OK, I'm also going to call BS on this one as well: 70% John Travolta - 67-66% some people nobody's heard of 65% Keanu Reeves - ok now I'm kicking there arses 61% Bruce Willis - now you're doing better 61% Kevin Bacon - then you fail'd it

From how the Cylons were talking, yes, it was. It was some cobbled-together thing they made to deal with the distance between their downloading stations and the fleet. And those who were onboard died for good. Guess they aren't so sure that they have souls after all.

Kinda like a certain VF1-D Minmay loving future Skull leader we all know. Seeing that Lee Adama has a life out side of his flight suit was great we need to see more of this type of episode. I agree they sometimes seem to be trying to cramm to much into every epispode. OMG there are more than 3 ships in the fleet. Well to all you Roslin haters just remember she can still die (hopefully) once her agenda has been revealed. She seems to have a big picture plan up her sleave and knows much more than her school teacher apperance lets on. Maybe the nanos will get her or she will be turned into a Cylon........ 365236[/snapback] i'm glad to see Lee doing more but he's no Apollo. and i think Baltar's anouncement that he wants power will be Roslyns undoing, which i'm ready to see. 365332[/snapback] Oh she's going to die, I'm still holding out for a cheap shot that make me LMAO instead of go Oh Noes! Baltar's too jacked up in the head to be a figurehead. He wants Roslyn to be a screen for him, so he can act with minimun blame and have few people question him.

If the first thing you say is make fun of me and die, you're going to get make fun of.

There now, you all have your Casi-freaking-opea character already. NOW QUIT YOUR WHINING!!!

Lucas doesn't seem to be too happy in that pic. I guess he wasn't thinking about the thousands he's gotten from just those guys.

Yeah, it's hands are far too small . Graham 363227[/snapback] But its arms are a mile long, litterally!

From everything I see, it's meant to be more of a car-based unit than portable - a smart idea, if you ask me, seeing as kids like to play these in the car alot.

It's either him or the Giant Douche. And I know you aren't going to vote for the douche, right?

Yeah, we all want the cool toys, but who here is willing to invest the time and capital to make them happen?!

And gosh I hated Cabin Fever. It was just retarded, I know they were trying to be funny at times, but they failed it. That's why I'm staying away from this one. Viceland you need to tell your girlfriend to chill, seriously. If she doesn't want to see it she can be somewhere else when you do. There's no good reason why she has to force you not to see it if she's a wuss.

Yes, OF COURSE!! I want to see lead flying all over the place, massive explosions, the Battlestars moving in sync based on offensive capabilities and defensive strengths. And I want to see transforming mecha show up in this show, alot like in Macross, eye-targeting lasers and all, and the next time someone gives Roslin crap I want to see her choke him/her out. And it's been since the miniseries since Adama killed a cylon with his bare hands, so he needs to kill like a number 6 unit, but this time with a spoon. Yeah, a spoon fight, because not many people can kill someone with just a spoon, and you are eternally a badass for doing it! Yeah, there's a lot I'd LIKE to see happen in this show, but chances are it isn't going down. They're trying to make it more character-driven and most of us aren't liking the characters, so hopefully they will increase the action.

LUDRICOUS SPEED GO! 120FPS? Does anyone really believe this?

Now I haven't, I caught them on TV, but that's good to know. I'll Netflix them all when season 2 is done, something to hold me over.

"Funloving lesbian" - now there's a phase for yah! But anyways, alot of what I'm basing this asumption off of is Fisk and the fact that the last time someone shot a CO on that show they threw her in the brig. Now Fisk had the courtesy to warn Tigh that Cain was a little unstable - or maybe so stable that a bullet awaited any attempt to derail her goal, whichever you prefer. Seeing as the bridge crew was there when it happened (the one guy she shot) I believe they'd be happy to see her go too. So seeing as Fisk is against Cain's actions, I don't see him taking out Adama or anyone else. The coup will work perfectly fine with the bridge crew on board - yes maybe most of the pilots like her, but they aren't running the ship. Now, about Starbuck, like I said, even when they found the one Cylon because she did whatever, they didn't kill them outright, so why would they Starbuck? They might think she's a sleeper too. And if Cain was able to get Tirol and Helo off the Galactica, why can't Adama get Starbuck off the Pegasus? Because her people are more hardcore? Ha, if anything, that would make them more likely to flow the orders of the highest guy giving them. I never though she'd be allowed anywhere near that ship afterwards (again, remember the last time someone shot a CO) much less CAG, but Adama would probably do like he wanted in the first place, avoid integration of the crews. It would give the Pegasus some space. And then she wouldn't be flying for months, not just 30 days, although when you're starring down a seemingly infinite army, flight duty might seem like punishment. And why not have Lee do it? Look at the previews for the next episode, he's already trying to talk Starbuck out of it, or at least questioning it. The only time he shot someone was because the guy was about to kill Cally, who already had a round in her. He didn't shoot Tigh, when Lee decided it was a good time to point a gun at him. Lee will make sure she doesn't get killed, whether or not he would help her walk right out of there is questionable. And do I expect the Pegasus crew to just jump on board? Yes. Look what happened when Roslin was jailed and that marshall law stuff went down - Adama got up, said it's time to end this sh!t, and it ended. If they were able to follow Cain knowing and seeing what she did, there isn't much reason to believe that they'd get all choked up to see her take a round. Liberal? HAHAHA awesome! And I consider myself strong conservative. But don't tell me you don't see the flow of the show here - the Cylons arguing over why they had the "right" to kill their "parents", the colonials trying to rebuild their previous form of goverment and society, they both are trying to do more than just survive than justifies their right to exist. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's the preception that I get from watching the show, that's what motivates them. Let's say that the human's win, cylons are gone, what's to say that they're not going to be the architechs of their own destruction again? Let's say the Cylons win, humans are gone, what's to stop them from factioning and destroying each other like the humans? I see both sides asking themselves these questions. Now Cain seems to have the f-them-up mentality, which is perfectly good in a number of programs, doesn't seem to make sense in this one. While the colonial fleet is scraping to get by, she seems to think that she can find supplies whenever and that people are expendable. That doesn't add up when their civilization is a couple of nukes away from extinction. If she left 15 ships to the wind, what's really to stop her from setting 15 times that many if she thinks a bigger, more important target is out there, and that's why she needs to go. She's going to get innocent people killed in the future, and in the present she's going to kill Adama. If you subscribe to the survival-theory she should go, if you subscribe to the maintain-morality-theory she needs to go. Hilter was on the Eastern Front WW1, so yah, he was kicking butt, and WW2, he used treaties and lightning-fast invasions to expand his empire, so who does that sound like? No more of this Nazi-Hitler crap, this isn't some HS political blog. For now on, if you're quoting real-world events in this thread, it must be in BC times and something obscure, so we have to look it up and therefore be smarter for the experience. But again, when Adama got up there and yelled "I KNOW WHERE EARTH IS AND WE'LL GO THERE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE SUPER" that's the impression that I got, that when they got to Earth they believe everything will be super. EDIT(forgot) - Then again, I could be dead wrong - Adama has been harbering hatred for Starbuck and wants Lee to make sure she dies, Fisk is really a Cylon and is moving to take over the Galactica for himself (but I'm holding out for it being Gaeta, he's got Cylon written all over his goofy face) and Roslin ODs on weed leaving Baltar as prez, but hey, I'm going off of my own perception of the story they're trying to tell.

The quote is "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN TO FADE AWAY!" WATCH YOUR HIGHLANDER MAN! Although I think you get the award for Longest Used Avatar - you still have that generic Bruce pic the board has pre-loaded. I don't think even Shawn has had his for that long! Yeah, you can still do that I think, but the ones Shawn or whomever came up with I find more amusing. I think I had "Listen to MY song!" or that was one of the ones I asked for an opinion on. The people I miss - SuperOstrich, he was a cool guy. It seems like moder-dom is instant death for most MWers. SkullOne, he was AgentOne before Major Focker even started posting much less actually AgentOne. Sometimes he just got a little too carried away and the mods got tired of it. Lebhead, another good guy, but then he started his Protoculture board and apparently stopped hanging around us to be with THE COOL KIDS?! I think the best poster I miss though is Opus - the dude was making the first ever retail Robotech game!! He's the reason why most of us bought a N64, but because he was only working on it with like 3 other guys (screw GameTek ) it never happened. Okay, now that I'm done with those losers, now on to the thing I REALLY miss - I know all you vet members remember The Longest Thread. I, and I know many of you as well, use MW as a place to goof off a little, and that was just the place to do it. How big did the thing get, like 300 pages? It was at least a page a day. But I think the mods got tired of problems that arouse so it was axed.

Also, what the hell's the rank structure in this joint? They got a colonel as an XO and a commander as a CO - Tigh should be running the ship!? For awhile I was just thinking that Tigh was a Marine or something, but then Adama's son would outrank him as a Capt! It's looney toones up there in space, I tell ya!

I got the thing set right according to time.gov but it's still off by an hour. Minor detail, but still, I'm curious.

Some things I don't get about your guys' reasoning: Adama sacrificing Starbuck? More than anything, they'd think she's a Cyclon and capture her. It's happened with the last two. Then Adama, as the head military officer again, will have full authority to do with her what he wants. Full flight status may be unlikely for awhile, but she won't be shot or abused. Cain justified in her treatment of civilians + prisoner Cylon? If you think that, you're missing the biggest point of the show. Roslin especially has been pushing the fact that most people define a civilization as "better" than others is not just their skill and tech, but their morals and how they fair in extreme circumstances. Even the original show hit on this alot, it just wasn't such an uphill battle in their own fleet as it is for the remake. This is why many gravitate towards her, especially Lee Adama with his "schoolboy" (forgive the pun) mentality coincides with that ideology. Cain, on the other had, threw those higher morals away like they were in-laws - about as quickly as possible. While if she didn't have that whole kill-whomever-defies-me mentality she would be livable, but even then she'd be an anchor that ties the fleet to the colonies when they really need to get out of there. Don't judge Roslin as too vicious - remember, while it is obvious that Zerek wants her dead she hasn't done him in yet. Although Zerek's the emo kid of the show he's not as dangerous as Cain. The worst Roslin's been doing is a little too much weed. The fleet running to hide? It would be a nice extra, but they, like the colonial fleet in the original, think of Earth as their last great hope. They'd just show up, catch up on about 3000+ years of history, and Earth will help them open a can of whoopass on the Cylons. And why not? The colonies' planetary defenses were capable of defending against invasion(well presumably, until a Cylon got into the network via Baltar's pants) so why shouldn't Earth be on par, if not better off than them? Whether or not they are or not we'd probably never find out. Adamlyn? Rosama? Now you guys are just getting bored. Find some good video games to play or something. Although truth be told, it seems they took the grandfather-like Adama for the original and made Adama and Roslin for this remake. Who here doesn't think Tigh is total poo? It seems like many of you don't think too highly of him, but it's obvious that, from that flashback episode and what we've seen of him, is that the last Cylon war was not too kind to him and he's been using alcohol as a crutch, but there's been many real-world men traumatized in the same fashion. I can see why Adama still thinks he's useful - he's got a feel to how the cylons move, like when the cylons boarded he knew where they would hit. Whether it's natural or because he's 1 of 2 vets from the last war doesn't really matter. He's also pretty good with people, he got vital info from Fist and he got those engines for the home-made Viper. Again, whether or not it's natural or because he's a drunk doesn't really matter. I hope we start to see more of Adama and his past because to me he's more of a blank slate than anyone important on the show. He doesn't show emotion that often.

I got Sandisk 4GB Sansa player for about $170 and after getting a connection issue resolved I love it. I got about 3 days worth of music in a device as big as two of my fingers, which runs off a AAA battery for 19 hours. It does the subscription services stuff and because it's flash-based you can run with it. Although it's possible, I haven't seen dvd audio getting any real support, so I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

And here I was thinking you were cool with bums AgentOne - most are crazy, and some are vets. I thought you liked people who went crazy from death?! Plus I could see you dressing up as a homeless man just to get into bumfights.