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Why does he have to ruin the pictures with watermarks?
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Somebody already did that a long time ago. robotech-love live alive (michael bradley edition).wmv
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Kramer should go work for 4kids. He could be their Executive Repurposer in Charge of Anime Butchery and stand up to the Japanese trying to make him bow to them.
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1. Macross was better than the other anime used for butchered dubs at the time. Mospeada and Southern Cross are good shows too. 2. The quality of Robotech's dubbing and music was better than other butchered dubs at the time. 3. The story of Robotech was debatably better than the story of other butchered dubs at the time. I think it was. They use these facts and the time that Robotech aired to try to establish a relationship between the cause of Robotech and the effect of more dubbed anime becoming available. They assume the audience from Robotech were the audience for dubbed anime. people who watch untranslated or subtitled anime are nobodies. Robotech proved there was a market for anime even when it failed. Robotech's success was directly responsible for distributors starting up such as Streamline Pictures, AnimEigo, US Renditions, US Manga Corps, AD Vision, Viz Video, and Manga Video and without Robotech they wouldn't have existed and/or would not have customers. Robotech had some kind of influence on the quality of anime in Japan in the late 80s and 90s. Carl Macek invented the Internet so without him you'd never be able to get anime when Robotech came out, most of Books Nippan, Laser Perceptions, Nikaku Animart, and Kimono My House's customers were Robotech fans. everyone thought anime was garbage before Robotech, but Robotech showed them it was good, but only through the filter of repurposing.
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They go on to talk about how accurate translations are bowing to The Japanese, Robotech touches everyone, but yet at the same time nobody would have any anime without Robotech. So, if I understand Kramer and Forstadt correctly, Robotech is the gateway to more "freely adapted" dubs and we should be thankful for them because without butchered anime we wouldn't have any more anime, which they want butchered as well? WTF and remember, if you speak Nihongo you don't exist! It's true Macek was reponsible for giving those people voice acting careers. I guess that explains why they're so willing to go along with all of this.
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Yay, another abortive animation! Something stinks here Commander and it's not in the ventilation system. It's... This summer... prepare to be amazed... by the.. worst animation you've ever seen (Robotech theme)... by creative master Tommy Yune and Carl Macek as consultant... wave hi Carl (gets his hand waved as he's propped up in a chair with his sunglasses)... with animation by DR Movie, assistant animator of Macross Plus... The Best Is Yet To Come.
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Robotech "fans" will love that. Hollywood movie actors are their favorite thing ever next to trying to fade the success of Macross by putting down Japanese culture. I bet they're still pumped by Spider-Man's involvement. That means it's going to get the budget of Spider-Man, right?
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The important thing is after you watch it, don't get on the Internet and act like you really saw the implied off-camera parts of Robotech and how much more epic than Macross you thought it was or make excuses for Robotech like "well you gotta understand the restrictions they were/are under" to try to make it sound like it's more entertaining to a modern audience than it is and that Harmony Gold is doing their best. Robotech is what it is. It's confusing but interesting.
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Harmony Gold is like a convenience store that wants Wal Mart's customers and has this plan for how they're going to make people think they're Wal Mart by selling clothing, bikes, and TVs next to the soda cooler even though their regular customers are tripping over stuff trying to get a soda and the hotdog warmer is gone.
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Robotech Art 3, page 43-44 "Matchbox's net yearly earnings were approximately $150 million. Hasbro and Mattel were in the $800 million to $1.2 billion dollar range. A typical corporate budget for a company like Matchbox or Mattel would allow for fifteen percent of their total earnings to be devoted to advertising. It is a formula which has been standard (plus or minus a few points) for many years. It is easy to see that Matchbox's total yearly earnings were roughly equal to the amount of money that a company like Hasbro or Mattel would spend on advertising alone. It made it hard to compete." The 65 episode thing was a desire to make more money, not a rule. 65 episode shows were more appealing to TV stations. Harmony Gold saw Macross as being too small to be worth the money they'd get back.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3945 Yeah, he's pretty much the originator of how Robotech turned out as opposed to Macross. Tatsunoko in the 80s was a scam. It was a way for poor studios to get their animation made. Then that animation would get sold to HG.
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Ippei Kuri (Yoshida Toyoharu) is the creator of Robotech and his name is in the credits of Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles. I don't like Shadow Chronicles, but if you're going for officially canon there it is.
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They might as well have in the last Robotech movie, when Scott finally finds Rick Hunter, he points and says "Look, there's Rick!" and we see the music video of Never Gonna Give You Up to the final end credits of Robotech. Harmony Gold ends their USA operation later that year after insisting the ending is canon.
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They could both be referencing one thing, but TFTM was out in August 1986. Since earlier that year from what I've read, negotiations continued with Matchbox to restart Sentinels. Then it was determined it was too late to resume production. Macek says in RA3 they were in negotiations throughout 1986. but it seems weird to me that it would go on for that many months and then HG doesn't do the rewritten video until after August so it could be syndicated with the other movies and then go to home video in 1987. If it was after August, then I guess it looks like Ardwight went to see TFTM. Ron Friedman couldn't have seen Sentinels because it wasn't even out yet. edit: I just remembered that a month before TFTM came out, Robotech The Movie used the scrolling crawl of text effect from Star Wars in its credits. It would not be out of the ordinary for HG to copy things from other movies.
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I just got Mospeada Complete Art Works from amazon.co.jp. Except for 24 color pages in the back, this book is full of pictures of linart about 3 inches wide. At the begining (end) there's an interview, then pictures of the album covers and some small screenshots from Love Live Alive. The first 2 parts make up a little over half of it and has characters and locations. There's an episode file, with designs from each episode, and a character file, designs of the characters which begins with that cool picture of Houquet and Mint by Mercy Rabbit. Besides many pictures of the main characters, there's designs for the incidental characters in many of the episodes and locations in the towns they went to. There's even the bird and the dancers from the New York episode. The linart is tiny, but if you have other artbooks you're used to this by now. There's the mines, the fireworks launchers, the jeep, the knives, the sleeping bags, one of the dinosaurs, and the animals in the woods. The next part is mecha... I just realized this book reads left to right, even though the table of contents is in the "back". So I guess I should say the middle section is mecha. The chapter starts with another picture by Mercy Rabbit of a Legioss with it's back against a building, using it for cover, with Rey and Houquet in their Mospeadas below it. This section takes up most of the rest of the book and has a good amount of detail on the variable fighters and the ships. I can only see one page with some prototype pictures. The rest is the usual Legioss, Mospeada, ships, and Inbit picture complete with details about the transformations and the cockpits. There's a size comparison for the ships, the fighters, and the Inbit. It would be nice if there were more details about the interiors of those ships, but they do show some interior locations. There's pictures of the helmet, the ride armor, and the guns. At the begining of the book is a color section. There's a page with screenshots of the opening. Then some color pictures of the Mospeada, the Legioss, and the Horizont. There's a couple of pages with color pictures of the characters. There are many pages of Mospeada toys. I don't understand the need for this section. I wish they'd included more art like the ones at the begining of the chapters instead and put it in the color section. It would increase the attractiveness of this book a lot for people not just here for the technical stats. At the end of this section is screenshots of the eyecatch and ending. Overall, I'm satisfied with this book despite it's technicalness and the IMO useless toy section. A lot of it is new to me either because it is new or because I only have Artmic Design Works and not Animedia Mospeada Color Graffiti. I hope they exhaust the old designs soon so they can make one that focuses on newer art of the characters and mecha. It would be a good book if the awesome cover of Mospeada Complete Art Works and the pictures by Mercy Rabbit are any indication of what modern artists of Mospeada can do.
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Ardwight Chamberlain, a Robotech ADR writer, rewrote the script for the Sentinels video.
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I don't don't know why, but I'm going to try to talk about the real Robotech again. Robotech could go either way, original or not original. When you consider Harmony Gold can't create, the main thing that makes Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles not like Robotech is the new concepts rooted in Sentinels instead of the original show. Robotech is about combining Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada. The combination, as people appreciated it, is supposed to make the illusion of a larger universe while letting what the Japanese created show through. What we get in Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles is Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada done like bad Marvel Comics. We all know Marvel could easily make these shows. Thats not interesting and it's not what made Robotech interesting. The character and mecha designs do not showcase the work of the Japanese. The story is not derived from Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada, instead being a plotpoint from Sentinels which itself introduces concepts, the Sentinels, disconnected from the three original shows that make up the concept of Robotech. If you're going to make a land vehicle, why not use the ones from Southern Cross? If you're going to make a Conbat fighter, why not just use the Conbat? The work of Ammonite and Artmic doesn't need to be fixed to make Robotech more embarassed of it's origins. Also, episode 85 is supposed to be an ending for both Scott and Rick. His fate was to be the same as Hikaru's, again just showing the story elements the Japanese created but combining them. What happened to them? I'd incorporate Southern Cross and guess it was something to do with the Masters or Zor, but you wouldn't show it onscreen or you'd destroy both Rick and Scott's ending.
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When you watch Sentinels, realize every line of dialogue Chamberlain wrote accuses another character of something, usually stupidity and the whole video is children arguing. Gaze into Vince's bulging eyes and see forever. Watch Lisa slice open her finger on her chin. Rock out to the awesome music of Shadow Chronicles. Experience the vertigo of the opening credits and puke. When Daryl Taylor dies, feel the impact of his death deep in your heart, moving you to tears. Realize Shadow Chronicles looks like a sequel to the Sentinels video in it's art design and animation. Watch as Vince does something to the neutron S missiles that contradict the entire reason they make black holes. Learn that suicide is the answer and emo is sexy.
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Did you see the Robotech the Movie poster at his funeral? I think his fans and business associates are way ahead of me in tastelessness which is what I was saying with that. Sorry if it was too mean.
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Carl's still working there. Tommy: "Hey Carl. How it's going there buddy? What do you think of my Shadow Rising script?" Carl: "..." Tommy: "It's fine as I wrote it? Thank you very much. You know, that's a good idea. This time we can write the final screenplay ourselves since we have experience from the last movie. So, what new products should we make this year?" Carl: "..." Tommy: "Absolutely. It's too early with the economy the way it is. We don't want to spoil the brand with confusing products. Time for the next meeting. Want me to help you up?" Carl "..."
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But that's their style! You just don't understand the dramatic and artistic stylization of professional artists like Rob and Tommy. Painters of Light do the teaching, not the learning. They're already become masters and the money proves it. Besides, doesn't being a comic book artist mean your drawings are hardcore awesome to even get the job? Good idea of Harmony Gold to hire one. If Tommy can draw a Speed Racer comic why not have him design a Robotech movie next?
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Tommy hasn't read Loomis. All he's doing is he draws some starched clothes and then a head on it from some reference.
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The page with Mint may be of interest to Mospeada fans. Robotech collectors will want a copy, but hopefully someone scans it. It's significant because Harmony Gold and Robotech fans hate Annie. They'd rather ignore the characters they don't want to use for Shadow Chronicles and this is a little confusing. The characters they want to ignore are also the most interesting ones.
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Hey guys. I've been excommunicated from Robotech fandom by a respected fan leader and the next Howard Stern of podcasting who's currently trolling our board. I'm a Macross purist. So I figured I'd post at the evil villian's base where we plot to corrupt Robotech with naked little girls like the ones you can see in Macross, Southern Cross, Mospeada, and Robotech Remastered. Then we're going to turn Robotech into an anime heavily influenced by Macross that it wasn't before. I will continue to study the evil language Japanese for the cause.
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US Renditions, Central Park Media, and AnimEigo were based on ways of selling Japanese animation like Harmony Gold's as being the wrong way to go. Streamline Pictures was about showing Totoro and Akira in theaters. I don't think they were related to Robotech. Robotech was based on some anime. That's the relation between Robotech and anime. That's why a lot of anime fans know about it.