M'Kyuun

Definitely, some may contest to the belief that the vf-0 is a prototype platform of new technologies that the vf-1 might implement in their production but will never be introduced because of cost factor which in a realistic standpoint is possible. This happens all the time from x-planes to futuristic car prototypes. 314735[/snapback] Way to cover for timeline inconsistencies! I agree wholeheartedly...companies cut corners all the time due to design, material, and manufacturing costs. Applied to the VF-0 and VF-1, Mr. Kawamori most likely designed the Zero as a larger, bumpier fighter so as to emphasize the more streamlined, compact design of the VF-1. It makes sense. What I do like on the VF-0 over the Vf-1 is the chining, contemporary angled panels, and the head design. Both are great designs, and deserve shelf space.

I gotta disagree with the upgrade part man. The canopy is more bulbous, the plane is bigger, has "interim" engines that are not as reliable as the VF-1 engines, (much like the TF-30 on the F-14A ...until the FINALLY got the long awaited more reliable much more powerful GEF110), has more drag, has a normal HUD, heavier, and possibly slower due to drag and weight. The VF-1 has glass canopy HUD, more reliable engines, sleeker, less drag, more advanced transformation(though not by much), more armor options, and looks more aerodynamically sound...seriously the VF-0 to VF-1 to me is like comparing an F-15 to an F-22. The VF-0 is the bridge between the gap of the modern fighter and variable fighter. But hell I'm a sucker for vintage fighters...and the VF-0 looks vintage and badass to me. 314467[/snapback] Shin, Dude, you definitely know your specs, and most certainly the VF-1 is a superior aircraft; however, my comment was merely aimed at the VF-0's appearance, i.e, angled panels, panel lines, exhausts, etc. all created to give a contemporary "stealth" appearance inherent in nearly every American fighter/ bomber since the F-117. Since stealth technology was still deep black when Shoji Kawamori designed the VF-1 back in the early 80's, he did not incorporate those external features into that particular design. Thus, in my mind, it was an upgrade in design from only an aesthetic point of view. To a non-Macross fan who knows anything about military planes, the VF-1 looks dated next to the more contemporary looking VF-0. However in all other respects, the VF-1 is the better design. Thanks for the comments; guess I needed to clarify my position. Also, personally I love both designs, although the VF-0 gains points with me for the reasons stated above. It's all about the angles, man!!!!!

I'm for the SV-51. Despite its spindly appearance, it represents something new and different, which interests me. While I like the VF-0, to me it is just a VF-1 upgraded to today's aircraft aesthetics, making it prettier in my opinion, than the VF-1, but still basically a VF-1 by transformation and basic look. I wish Mr. Kawamori had put a little more imagination into the VF-1's predecessor, making it a unique transforming design. Alas, it's his baby. I'm just glad Yamato still shows interest in the license, and I will most likely add a VF-0 to my collection should they produce them. And yes, Graham, the "needle" on the front is a pitot tube used to indicate airspeed(I work on planes for the USAF)

I'm a rather eclectic collector, but not really a completist. I buy what I like, and my interests, though many, are primarily Lego( which I've been collecting nonstop since 1975, or thereabout, and for which I am rapidly running out of storage ), Star Wars figures and Lego sets(of course, 'cause they're awesome), Transformers (Takara MP Prime and the Binaltech line are, IMHO, what Takara should have been making all along, but I digress), and transformable Valkyries, esp Yammies. Since my folks were never sci-fi fans, much to my chagrin, I never got into collecting SW until Hasbro started releasing figures in 1995. I haven't stopped since, and I have a respectable collection, though far from complete, of MISB figures. Sorry no pics...almost everything outside of my Lego mess is boxed or wrapped up in plastic to keep it nice for the day when I finally own a house with lots and lots of shelves to display everything.

I'll admit, choice of car's what got me. The xB just makes me skin crawl.

13 Years USAF, aircraft hydraulics specialist, currently serving at Fairchild AFB, WA

Hi everyone. I've been following these forums for years, but i felt content to just kick back and enjoy the banter...until today. I also dig transformable bikes(the more realistic, the better), but still like the stuff in general. Keeping within the topic, I found something interesting while perusing the Microman section of the Takara-USA website. It's more along the lines of ride-armor than transformable, but apropos nonetheless. As an aside, I bought a Microman Batman, which is a similar figure in the line. This thing is only approx 4" tall, but features something like 30 points of articulation and some decent detailing. GI-Joes everywhere are hiding their little plastic heads in shame. Anyway, take a look if it sounds interesting. http://www.takara-usa.com/microman/inf_mf_01.html