Keith

I don't think it was a simple lack of armor, but a total cheapening out on materials all together (like the toynami's). If they had better armor, they would have only cracked to pieces in side that armor. Plus they couldn't even kill an old man!

Most of the pilots on the battlefield weren't even allowed faces, much less voices. Except that one guy screaming into his helmet while they sucked his spiritia out, and he was a metric buttload of pilots' face. I doubt Gamlin was calling in just to be a whiny crybaby. It's safe to assume Basara WAS a nuisance. It's safe to assume nothing of the sort. Had Basara been that large of a problem, pilots would have been in an upgroar, nothing happened, and obviously Gamlin was the only one with a problem. Docker, Physica, & Kinryu all seemed to get by fine. Gamlin however had a strict sense of "order," and an unknown on the battlefield more than anything is what bugged him. I never got the impression he actually LIKED Basara's music, though. He just ceased to hate Basara with the burning heat of a thousand suns and acknowledged that Basara DID have talent, even if he didn't care for the music. And yet Gamlin would be the first in line to hear Mylene... And that still doesn't change the fact that they used Basara as an instrument of torture. Aside from the fact that never happend you mean? Random thought: given that the usual view of rock music is "louder = better", it's highly possible Chiba had things turned up way too loud for Gamlin and was causing him physical pain. Doubtful, he was still a doctor afterall. I'm just saying that adults typically acknowledge that the world isn't an ideal place, and that idealism often has to be set aside for reality(like Hikaru setting his "war = bad" idealism aside for the defense of the Macross, and ultimately humanity itself). And I'm just saying that the concept of following an ideal doesn't make something "kiddie." Rampant idealism is typically a sign of a kiddie show. I thought rampant violence was a typical sign of a kiddie show. Basara never questions the idea that there's a non-violent solution to everything. What's more, he never questions that the solution is people listening to his song. He either blames everyone around him when his singing fails or assumes he just isn't good enough. The opposite could just as easily be said. Most characters in many series never even entertain the notion that there's a non-violent solution to everything. It's far more common to just pull the trigger & be done with it. And the reason he never questions that the solution is that people listen to his song is the core of what Macross has always been about. If one person shares their emotions with another (through the medium of music), they will be able to move that persons heart. In the original series, it was instigated through music, then carried out through full exposure to human culture/way of life. The Zentradi decided they would rather enjoy the new feelings & things they were experiencing, than destroy it & continue roving the galaxy. That's what lead to the rebellion of the Britai Adoclas fleet. The same applies here, Basara know's that regardless of whether people like his music or not, if they can feel the emotion he's putting into it, they'll understand what he's trying to say. Gamlin & Mylene were interesting because they were placed there to grow to the point Basara had already been at. But the focus was on Basara, not Gamlin and Mylene's adaption to him. Those story angles were sacrificed several times for the sake of more Basara. And why exactly shouldn't the focus be on Basara? As I said, Gamlin & Mylene were secondary characters who's purpose it was to grow past the specific skeptacism that certain people would have to such a situation. And in that task they succeeded. QUOTE As I said, Basara had no conflicts, problems, etc, because he already had his sh!t together from the start. Everyone else was playing catch up. That hardly makes him a flat character. Yes, it does. He's a static and unchanging fixture in the show. What need was there for him to change. He was right, he knew he was right, and it was everyone else around him who had to change to realise that. Basara's growth was that of effectiveness. He started out with an ideal, and grew in strength enough to realise that ideal. I'm just saying that Basara's character could've been developed through backstory without altering his character signifigantly. A single flashback of him trying to move a mountain with his song isn't my idea of character development, or even establishment. And yet it was, that single bit defines exactly who Basara is. Doesn't matter where he comes from, doesn't matter where he's going, Basara is Basara. QUOTE Macross 7 also only pursued one major point. SDF Macross had many concurrent major threads. Some were fully realized, others were truncated or abandoned. Fair enough. Personally, I don't think Mac7's version would fit in the setting of SDF Macross. Despite the fact that the groundwork was already layed down for it? You'll recall that the Zentradi mistook Kaifun's movie antics for an ancient secret weapon. And while I've lost since lost the newsgroup article. There was an old post by one of the Macross Plus translaters who claimed that he heard from the Nue staff that many aspects of 7 were originally intended for the initial 52 episode layout of SDF Macross. While I obvioulsy can't comfirm that, I've always found it interesting. Because it is explained that they have never known such things and as such would be fearful of it as is typical of most people who become afraid of something they don't understand... Did I mention the fact that they were giant space aliens who were freaked out by sex & music? You can't call one seriouisly hard sci-fi, & the other silly, without coming off as a hypocrite. Really? Ask a few pilots and then get back to me on that one.... Conventions are only conventions because they're the accepted norm. That doesn't make them the only way to do things, or even the right way to do things. Saying that using a flight stick shaped like one thing is more viable than using a flight stick shaped like another thing specifically based on what's normal & what's uncommon is...silly. QUOTE(Keith @ Aug 12 2006, 01:36 AM) And then you go and claim the AFOS to be more believable, despite its complete & total lack of mechanical parts? None of the powers (aside from possessoin) are anything that wasn't already shown to be possible with already existing Protoculture technology. For all intents & purposes, they're bio-engineered self aware battleships, be them suped up past anything given to the Zentradi. Ahh, but they were'nt ships were they, they were Monsters... Had they been similar to Sivil, but capable of taking over any mechanical device or could "become" as powerful as a captial ship, I would have liked them better, but that is my preference. The AFOS doesn't need mechanical parts to do it's job, so why would the PC have grown them?. Actually, they were as powerful as any capitol ship, that was the point. The protocutlre simply blended their advanced warship technology, with their advanced genetics technology, and created living weapons. The Evil series (bodies which were possessed by the Protodevelin) were no more "monsters' than the Zentradi. For a similar convention, look at Farscape. Biologically created ships with weapons are a convention in that seires, and not considered "space monsters," nor should the Protodevelin be considered here. All of the abilities they showed (aside from possession, which wasn't in their original design). were biological representations of features already existing in overtech. Space Fold, Barrier shields, energy weapons, all pre-existing tech. The AFOS's design was also along similar lines. You'll recall the research scientists on the carrier commenting how its organs are similar to the technology found in the Macross. Had the Protoculture not fallen, likely all of their technology would have gone that route. Well since you brought up the GI Joe show.... Kinda sounds familiar huh? Not at all similar, had censors allowed them to kill characters there, they would have. As is, they were restricted to having parachutes & exploding robots due to broadcast standards. Anime has no such conventions in place. You really must stop trying to assume what my expectations are... You see your description of Basara is not dramatic, he only sings really well. Where as your description of the character who must overcome obstacles is more dramatic. My daughter never had much time for dramatic characters, but ones who were flashy or could sing well...she had plenty of time for. Hence my point. Actually, Basara's abilities have little to do with how well he signs. His power comes from his passion, not from his voice. Music is only the medium through which he applies it. Basara could just as easily have the same effect if his passion was knitting, carpentry, screwing, peeing, or killing. Since Macross's theme has always been music, that's the chosen way he expresses himself. But if you strip away the songs you still have the passion, and that's what's creating the anima spiritia. True. Had the show that started it all been given 52 episodes, it would have faced the same issues. That doesn't mean it would be any less annoying... All I'm saying is that 9 out of 10 anime series have just as much recycled footage, be it launch sequences, henshin poses, special attacks, or what not. 7 shouldn't be judged any more harsly than them, especially since 7 didn't rely on a clip show episode to stay on budget, when the average for a series that long is to have at least 2 clip shows. Hell, look at the SEED's, there are more recycled animations & clip shows than anything previous. Huh? They were light years away and able to communicate regularly, exactly how did they get abandoned Are you sure you watched this show? The Galaxy network keeps all of the colony fleets in contact with each other & earth through fold communications (fold communications have existed since the first series). Assumedly, the technology allows instantanious transmission in much the same way that fold travel allows instantanious travel. Anyway, the U.N. Spacy brass decided to sacrifice the 7 fleet to the Protodevelin, since they were the only thing that the Protodevelin seemed to take interest in. Max however went against orders, and decided to keep fighting against the Protodevelin anyway. I'm not quite sure about that last one. Artist = Firebomber. Idol = Jammingbirds. If they were so similar, then why all the debates? Clearly a change was made. IMO it was that the target audience was a younger age for Mac 7 than SDFM and thus what worked for one audience doesn't work for another. Because people get too wrapped up in the superficial aspects. Shooting verses singing, a hero who gung-kills as opposed to one who sings. To deny this reality is only to fool one's self. And to dislike something because it looks different, despite being the same, is to be prejudice None were principal characters, they were supporting at best, except for Gigil and frankly I was never drawn in enough to his tragedy to really care that he died. Physica was given some background, but only in an attempt to garner the audience's sympathy. Kind of too little too late. In SDF you have 2 main characters and a few related characters who die. You get to know Kakizaki and Roy and when they fall you have an emotional response to it. When Admiral Hayse goes up with the Grand Canon you can empathyse with Misa, I never developed any care for the fates of Kinyru, Physica or Gigil. I felt for Sivil and even a bit of sympathy for Basra's attempts to revive her, but not much more than that. Kakizaki was hardly more of a main character than Kinryu or Physica, and definately less of one than Gigil. As for the rest, that's more personal preference than anything. The same thing goes for the Megaroad 13 populace. OK they possibly died... and? It's like watching a Star Trek episode, it's an interesting piece of information that explains part of the story, but has no real impact on the viewer. You can't dismiss the tragedy, but you don't really care about the people either, because the viewer was completely insulated from the incident. It's not like you were introduced to the millions of people on Earth who died either. One is hardly less tragic than the other.

I honestly don't see why they didn't just design these for the DS. The extra screen & touch would have helped with the smaller size. With that said, I'm still not sure if I want to pick this up, as I love Alpha 3, but a big part of my love has to do with all of the licensed characters & mecha.

I think this says it all: "And on the other end of the spectrum it seemed like the creative directors were trying to put their own, unique spin on the production and make it "their own," rather than be compared to the past and the creators who originally made their mark on this legendary series. " As that was always the problem with robotech to begin with. Strangely enough, this has not detered me from wanting to buy this one bit, and if anything, it's making me want to re-watch the Sentinels in all its gay 70's spandex & handlebar mustache-ness. Just what is it that draws me to these robotech sequels?

Does it at least tie up its own story, or does it leave things open there too?

To be fair, they had a lot ot make up for after the flatchested manly women of the Sentinels. I'll still buy it, and I'll still stick it next to Space Gandam V on my Shelf.

he endagered the lives of the actual fighter pilots early on by getting in between the line of fire while they were attempting to fight, forcing them to break and leave themselves open to an attack. Gamlin complains about this for some time. 424536[/snapback] No, he pissed off Gamlin by being an unknown on the battlefield, he never endangered anybody. Gamlin has no one to blame but himself for is own distraction. Didn't the populace, or everyone but the VF pilots of the New Macross 5 fleet get destroyed too? And wasn't the planet Rax also destroyed? (As in the entire planet is no more, not like the limited-to-the-surface destruction of Earth.) The populace was used for Spiritia, the military was used as Varuta soldiers, and the ships were gutted for usable technology. Except the leg missiles. Which were only used in a hasty moment to protect someone else. And got in their way. On the other hand, he DID use himeslf as a shield for civilian targets a few times You'll note no one aside from Gamlin complained about Basara being on the battlefield. He didn't actually get into anyones way, the only shots he blocekd were those of the Varutal. What, you never saw "Rape-inator: Robotic Tentacles of Doom"? I generally assume every possible porn concept has been explored at least once Nope, musta missed that kiddie show The AFOS had also been "stored" with much less care. While the protodeviln were encased in ice, the AFOS was sitting exposed on the sea floor. The AFOS was stored to be found. It was intentionally left relatively out in the open. Once human tech became advanced enough to find it (cyclops radar), it would prove as a test. Chiba used Basara's song for psychological torture on Gamlin. Because Gamlin had a stick up his ass for the first 3rd of the series. He was right along with everyone else singing Planet Dance & Light the Light later on. It's idealistic. Particularly the manner in which it's attained. What's life without ideals? It's called a flat character. One of my major gripes with Macross 7 is that Basara has no character growth, either in "real-time" or backstory. Were he a secondary character, this would be acceptable. But he's not interesting enough to be the lead, and he steals camera time from far more compelling characters. Gamlin and Mylene would've both made far better main characters Gamlin & Mylene were interesting because they were placed there to grow to the point Basara had already been at. As I said, Basara had no conflicts, problems, etc, because he already had his sh!t together from the start. Everyone else was playing catch up. That hardly makes him a flat character. As for backstory, enough was revealed about him to understand him. He's obviously the kind of guy who doesn't speak about himself, some people are like that. Plus there's Kawamori's penchant for mysteries & un-resolved endings. Macross 7 also only pursued one major point. SDF Macross had many concurrent major threads. Some were fully realized, others were truncated or abandoned. And I'd argue that the music angle WAS developed quite adequately in the original series, for the setting it was in. At the end of the series Minmay admits she doesn't have her emotion for singing yet, but she wants to find it. Kamjin throwing culture shock in her face finally woke her up. She wanted to achieve that ideal emotion to share with people. Macross 7 fully realizes Minmay's dream. I also don't see how 7 had any fewer major threads than Macross. And the "corruption" of said infiltrators by the "good guys." Sivil and Gigile were both influenced by Basara far earlier than their companions were. I'd still debate that the shows are from the same mold, though. Gigil especially had some great moments, and definately stands as my favorite Macross bad guy.

nah there were tons of casualties, ya just never hear of any of them since they weren't in the cast 424453[/snapback] Kinyru, Physica, & Gigil were the 3 big main cast deaths. With the implied loss of the populace of the Megaroad-13.

That doesn't prove it was "more" or "as" sophisticated or dramatic as SDF. It did reveal more about Protoculture, but mostly to justify the space monsters. The revelations that directly relate back to SDF is the further explanation about the Supervision Army and the Civil War. I'm still trying to figure out how giant aliens who are freaked out by sex & music is more mature than space monsters in general. You make an awfully large assumption about what I write off... I found the fact that a civilian having a state of the art military fighter that has been customized to be flown using a guitar and that the same civilian was not arrested for flying said aircraft into a military operation, thus endangering pilots, to be "kiddie" as only children would accept that (I won't comment on the Kai's "face" or the Sound Force fighters as that's just redundant). Then you apparently missed the part of the series where all that was explained. Max himself hoping for a solution for the fighting that had gone on sanctioned the project years before. Ray, after his friend Stephen died, retired from the military, & wandered around the universe drunk. He crossed path's with Basara, & came up with the general idea after witnissing his determination. Ray got in touch with Kinryu who had been assigned to the 7 fleet, who in turn got in touch with Max, who apparently also had Chiba chewing his ear off about a similar concept. All things came together, Akusho was attached to City 7 as a training ground, Chiba had the custom VF-19 Kai worked up, and Ray instructed Basara on how to fly. While Basara was a civillian pilot, he was sanctioned in a military Project (Project M Specifically). I also fail to see where anything Basara did wad "endangering" anybody. He had no live ammo, and even in the early stages before he was "effective," he still drew fire away from the other pilots. Any Arguments regarding "faces" is just inane, mecha having humanoid faces, and or having a camera eye make no difference whatsoever, and comes more down to personal preferance. Hell, Gundam's have been running around with Samurai armor masks since the beginning. The same goes for the guitar shaped control stick, big deal, it still uses the basics of a standard control scheme. I found the notion of "giant" monsters grown to wage war is more of a throw back to Dancougar and Mazinger and those types of shows. I found the AFOS much more believable as a bio-engineered weapon than the PD. Thus making Macross 7 aimed more at a "kiddie" audience than not. Nothing you've said here implies anything of a "kiddie" nature. Hell, by that logic, all tenticle rape hentai is "kiddie" because it doesn't feature robots or more standard humanoid aliens? And then you go and claim the AFOS to be more believable, despite its complete & total lack of mechanical parts? None of the powers (aside from possessoin) are anything that wasn't already shown to be possible with already existing Protoculture technology. For all intents & purposes, they're bio-engineered self aware battleships, be them suped up past anything given to the Zentradi. The anti-war sentiment in threaded throughout all the Macross shows, in SDF the sentiment was displayed by showing the devastating affects of wars, not Hikaru flying around shouting into his radio to "Listen to my message!". No, instead you had Hikaru being forced to compromise his ideals in order to protect his friends. A necessary decision given the circumstances, but one that's not necessary in 7, as Basara is someone who doesn't compromise his beliefs for anything, and it just so happens that the technology that exists by the time of 7 means he doesn't have to try. As for the "devastating effects of war," I still fail to see how you're finding more in SDF Macross than 7. Aside from the bombardment of Earth, there really "aren't" more. I fail to see how someone saying "listen to my song," is somehow worse than someone pulling a trigger, & killing someone. As for the "devastationg effects of wars," the point of 7 was to end a conflict without having to have anyone on either side die, it was specifically goal oriented against further "devastationg effects of wars." Unfortunately for your assumption, I don't write off Macross 7, I simply categorize it as a children's show and enjoy it for what it is. I give it no more expectation than I would any other superior animated kids show. Thus your pigeon hole attempt does not apply to me... And the only area where it fails that expectation, is tha the main character tries to motivate his opposition "not" to fight instead of killing them? How again is that more childish? Macross 7 is one of the rare occurances of a main character who isn't unsure of himself, isn't moody & brooding, doesn't have to overcome some major shortcoming, & doesn't compromise himself to suit a situation, instead, he chooses to change the situation. Does that make the show somehow childish? If so, I don't see how. I never made any technical complaints against macross 7. The only ones I could make are the blatantly recycled battle footage and maybe the character design of the twin PD, whatever their names were. The lack of personality in those last two had far more worse to do than their designs, but luckily they don't have enough screen time to be a problem. The only true major difference in tone between the two shows, was that the original series presented an ideal that they hadn't quite achieved, while Macross 7 went that extra length & fully achieved it. And say what you will about recycled launch sequences & explosions, but in 52 episodes, there was not even one clip show. That's almost unheard of even today. Please do go on, Ive become intrigued... 424326[/snapback] Sure, -Bridge Bunnies - Check -Love triangle - Check (several actually) -Abandonment by the U.N. Spacy brass - Check -Ineffectiveness & surviving by the skin of their teeth against a more advanced threat - Check -Enemy infiltration into the civillian populace - Check -Crazy mis-folds - Check -The distinguishing between an "artist & an idol - Check etc. Just about every major & minor theme that was covered in Macross TV is still present in 7.

So will this be related to the aweful 90's made for the USA network cartoon that took place in the Future with yet another "McCloud," but never actually showed anyones heads being cut off?

Hmm, I always thought the western storytelling concept was to do completely unstrung together episode of the week shows for as long as possible until they won't make money anymore, while the Japanese took a more direct beginning, middle, & end stance. I'm glad this guy corrected me

From your comments I gleen that you are saying that Macross 7 is as thought provoking and dramatic as SDF Macross? Comparatively speaking, SDF Macross is far more sophisticated in its story and execution than Macross 7, IMO. However, I enjoyed several aspects of Mac 7 too, just not as many as the first series. Mac 7 to me, is kinda like what Gundam Seed is to many old school Gundam fans. Very popular right now, but not what MS Gundam started out as. 424227[/snapback] Wait, you're saying that Macross 7 isn't as throught provoking, sophisticated, or dramatic as the original series? Unlike the myriad of AU Gundam, Macross 7 "did" maintain the core of what Macross has always been about, while evolving the original concepts presented. Hell, in a rare Kawamori moment, we also got some pretty nice backstory on the original Protoculture conflict, and you know how he loves just leaving things mysterious. The only real arguments against Macross 7 come from those who A: See singing in a cockpit & immediately write the show off, B: See more of an anti-war sentiment in a show they think is supposed to emphasive militaristic battles, or C: See what they construe as "space monsters," not taking into account that they're actually biological evolution of already existing Macross technology, and write it off. And because of that, people such as yourself write the show off as "kiddie," despite the fact that it's far more "kiddie" to have the token G.I. Joe never ending fight. The truth is, SDF Macross had more than its share of goofy moments & bad animation, with nearly any technical complaint you can make against 7 being applicable to it as well. At the same time Macross 7 has more than its share of drama & serious tone. -Big space battles - Check -Max doing his usual thing - Check -Hot alien chicks - Check -Planetary destruction - Check -Transforming robots - Check -Giant aliens - Check -Well written main character deaths - Check The list goes if you'd like.

That makes at least 2 Gundam 0079 cast members who've died relatively young of cancer. Makes you wonder if there was something in the studio.... Apparently he was Yellow in Mospeada too. What a great range of characters.

Ah, but passable translations already exist for the whole series, there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't be out on a (non-handheld) collection. We were supposed to get the Sega Ages version done a couple years ago, but looks like that fell through. BTW, don't forget there's also a Capcom Classics volume 2 coming out, and we can all finally play the crappy original street fighter again! (well, those of us who don't have psp's).

Maybe the CG studio was holding out with the "good" renders until HG coughed up the money to pay them. Just as the mythical screenings were a ruse to get a licensor, perhaps the final CG will be improved now that the cash exists to fund it. I for one can't wait to see how they make those cat robots crumble apart with modern technology!

Not really, I suspect not many Japanese adults would admit to watching much anime as it is looked down on in society because of the Otaku Killer. However I hear that such notions are waning as the years pass. So you are left with kids who would enthusiastically support a show directed to their demographic. Let's face it Mac 7 is a very good kids show... 423272[/snapback] Psst, 9 & 1/2 anime series are directed at kids, the original Macross series was, and your implication would seem to imply Macross 7 is somehow different in that nature, which it is not.

Who's to say his VF-1S was completely totalled. May have only needed repairs, something that'd be pretty high priority consideirng his rank. As for being Macronized/Micronized, who's to say he wasn't Macronized after the treaty, & before the wedding. A bit of a stretch yes, since he wasn't actually "seen" there during the ceramonies, or anywhere else until the final battle...but hey, why not. And lastly, perhaps Milia didn't come at him with that fury until that particular fight. It's not unreasonable to think that the Metlran would have had ample opportunity to attack the Macross during the Month between Hikaru & Misa's being captured, and then being found on Earth.

That is an awesome scene, though as a first time watcher, I won't ruin future episodes for you, but look forward to episode 26.

Keep in mind, though the ADV DVD's are less prone to "cracking" (hopefully), the Japanese audio on them is inferior to the AnimEigo release. It has a lot more noise in it.

Actually, the only one that doesn't fit is the one of Hikaru & Misa kissing in Britai's ship. All the rest would fit quite nicely, though there'd obviously have to be more animation to feed them in with. A battle between Max & Milia in space would fit during the period Misa & Hikaru were on Earth. And their wedding could fit somewhere durring the preparations to take on the Bodolza fleet, perhaps a bit before their launch. As for Milia she only became mayor within a couple years of the start of 7. Before that she was still Military, and was Gamlin's flight instructer. If you haven't already, check out the "Top Gamlin" short, as aside from showing the above, it's the only place to catch her custom VF-11. She only decided to leave the military & become mayor because she didn't want to be "ranked" lower than Max in the fleet. As mayor of City 7, she was the head of the civilian populace, and (in her eyes at least), held an equal rank to Max. Milia's VF-1 obviously had the 1X-Plus upgrades, unlike the other civillian/ex-military VF-1's in the city. I don't think Max would have been so nostalgic about keeping his though, he seems more like the "trade up to bigger & better technology" kinda guy. He did afterall opt for a new VF-22. Of course when Milia found out, he had to get her one too Dynamite showed a pretty well stocked black market for weapons, so it's not too far out of a notion to believe that those Monster pilots who wanted to keep it pristine could have gotten a hold of some live ammo.

It's not so much "how long have they been in the gunbuster," as it was how long they took to detonate the bomb. Obviously things didn't go according to plan, and only thanks to Noriko's improv did they succeed. The extra time spent however caused them to miss far more "real time" than they had planned. For them however, it would have been a matter of minutes.

There are some quick shots of Max's VF-1S in the "extra" DYRL scenes shown in 7. I love how Kawamori took the opportunity to animate some of the scenes that were cut from the film, and insert them into the episode prologues. Minmei Video does have a quick shot of a fight Max & Milia had in the film, prior to the Macross reaching Earth (when Max was lead of the Skull in Roy & Hikaru's absence). There's also a nice scene shown in a later episode where Hikaru, Max, & Kakizaki (in Valkyries) are attending the actual treaty signing between Global & Britai. As for favorite song, definately a tie somehwere between Holy Lonely Light, Power to the Dream, Totsugeki Love Heart, Sweet Fantasy, Wild Life, & Starlight Dream....it's hard to pick...

Oh come on, Escape from LA wasn't "that" bad. Now the funny thing would be if this, & the Metal Gear movie hit theaters at the same time

Note on folds: There are actually two types shown in Macross. The first being the more commonly recognized point to point fold, where the space between two points is completely folded, allowing instananious travel. The second being more of a long distance fold, where the space between two points is "mostly" folded, but some distance between is travelled, assumedly this is the version where a time dialation takes place. The difference between the two would be the initial fold that took the Macross & South Atalia out into space, while the other would be represented by the longer trip Britai took to meet up with the Bodolza fleet (with Hikaru & gang as prisoners), or Isamu's fold from Eden to Earth.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next project turned out to be a movie, though if it is going to be an OVA, hopefully it'll be more of the 13 episode variety, as the 4-5 episode OVA's always seem too short.