Keith

Maybe we're being unfair of the reusage of LLA. The whole thing is 50 minutes, with like 90% of that being TV footage. so 10 minutes of LLA original footage (which I think is a fair estimate) could maybe be part of one montage, or maybe bridge new animation bits. I'm being really generous here giving HG the benefit of the doubt....really generaous. Assuming they toss out the camping scene since there's no way in hell that would fit in with TSC without a valid excuse of why Stik (scott) & Aisha (ariel) ditched their shiny new spandex outfits, that's even less new footage for them to choose from. All they're really left with is Yellow riding up past some Inbit wrechage & trash, a couple interviews,a couple conert scenes (incomplete since they're mixed with stock TV footage), and Yellow's cabin. So either one of two things are going to happen. This will be mostly new animation with some bridging LLA footage. Or it will be mostly LLA including the stock Mospeada footage in which case they should just close up shop now and tell their fanbase Robotech has been over for 20 years, sorry for wasting their time .

You guys need to stop convoluting things. The Vs engine: -Federation Vs Zeon -Gundam Vs Zeta -Alliance Vs Zaft -Alliance Vs Zaft II -Gundam Vs Gundam, -Gundam Vs Gundam Next -Gundam Vs Gundam Next Plus & -Gundam Extreme Vs (current) is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT engine from the PSP Battle series. ' -Gunam Battle Tactics -Gundam Battle Royal -Gundam Battle Chronicle -Gundam Battle Universe -Gundam Assault Survive And the Macross engine spawned from Battle Universe -Macross Ace Frontier -Macross Ultimate Frontier --Macross Trial Frontier -Macross Triangle Frontier --Macross Last Frontier (Current). No doubt Battle Tactics was inspired by the original Federation Vs Zeon's home version campaign mode, but it's an entirely different play engine that spawned all later PSP Gundam Battle Games & Ace Frontier, with subsequent Macross games using a very much customized "Macross-centric' engine. To put it bluntly, to call Last (or even Trial) Frontier simply "upsized PSP games" is to completely ignore all the love that went the all new HD renders for the Valkyries, Vajra & capitol ships. These are far from the PSP models, which while great for that hardware, don't have a quarter of the detail that's in the PS3 versions. You also imply that the Vs engine is superior, which is debatlable as far as Gundam is concerned, but flat out wrong in regards to a Macross game. The Vs engine excells at one thing, high speed arcadey matches. The Battle/Macross Engine has full misson based levels, in depth weapon selection (you're stuck with your standard loadouts in VS) and upgradability, you fight targets as small as gun turrets and as large as the captiol ships they're attatched too, etc. Vs as of current (haven't played Extreme yet) still has cramped single stages that focus more of simple shoot & dodge mechanics than anything else. While the addition of charged attacks has been nice in the Vs games (Gundam X's satellite cannon for exmaple), melee is still trash, and mobile armor/transformable suits are still based on dash meter hogging dash moves rather than true transformations (like in the Battle/Macross games). My point is, Macross wouldn't work with the VS engine, missiles would have to be simplified to crap like in the first VFX or Robotech Battlecry (a simple burst of missiles with each button tap), and transformations would be locked into battroid except for when you double tap dash. Fighter would be fairly useless with that engine, and I don't see how they'd pull off the necessit for Gerwalk. While the original Battle Tactics was an archaic slight improvement on the old mission based Fed vs Zeon campaign mode, it's evolved into very deep show re-enacting scenario missions. As of current, the Vs games still have a tiny roster, while the last several Gundam Battle games have still had a couple hundred plus Mobile Suits, and the PSP Macross games have been prety comprehensive as well in regards to pilot & mecha choices. Basically, smaller stages, stock pilot/mecha choices, crap melee attacks, and twitch gameplay = Vs Deeper missions, bigger stages, bigger variety in enemy type and variety, awesome weapon selection and usage (ITANO FREAKIN' CIRCUS), SP attacks, suppeort characters, smart-ish A.I. wingmen, custom soundtracks, fast packs/armor, etc, Macross/Battle/Assault engine. Again, actually take a look at last frontier, while it does slow down a bit (still a demo build afterall, all the fine detail in vernier control, wing lights, missile ports opening & launching, fast pack usage and ejections level detail, and the freakin' flak coming off of those Vajra ships. Hell, even the launch scenes which have custom animation depending on whether you're in the atmosphere & space are beautiful. You guys are acting like this is Another Century Episode with its shite old school clunky control scheme. Don't get me wrong here, I do enjoy the Vs gamees, but if you think about it seriously, that won't work for Macross at all. And nothing I've seen of Extreme so far makes me think it's prettier than Tiral & Last Frontier.

Have they started jealously bashing Sayonara Tsubasa over on the rt.com forums yet? Can't bother myself to look.

Go hate somewhere else!

lol

The PSP games have captured something that's rarely done in gaming, successfully making you feel like you're playing through the actual events of the show. Last Frontier ups that a notch by including a new animation window that synch's up scenes from the movies to the action as it goes on. It's hard to explain, but it's incredibly well done. Add to that the awesome graphics upgrade, and I can't wait to see a full Macross game done this way. I'll gladly take a retread of events being played through like this, over a game where you play a new story any day. Both seeing it in action, and using it in game really improved my view of the YF-29. Exactly for the reasons you've said, it perfectly blends the VF-4 with the YF-19 using VF-25 stylings.

It wasn't him who said something to the effect of "you can view it this way or that way, but the storyline follows the TV series." It's been so damn long.

Quick correction As for the whole issue of canon, while it's possible he may change his mind, Kawamori has remained pretty staunch about keeping hte original TV series as canon, don't see why he'd change his mind here.

Yeah, there's a bit of slowdown with all the flak & missiles flying from giant capitol ships & whatnot, but it is still a demo build of the game so I wouldn't worry too much. About the ending

The Tornado pack cannons and the YF-29 counterparts are beautiful, I can't imagine that there isn't some game shop in Hong Kong that doesn't have a demo setup. It'd be a shame for you to miss out on at least trying this version. Also, the guy in that video has no idea how to play the game, poor fool not using Gerwalk to avoid crashing into the ground, and jumping head first into every enemy SP attack

Did you just travel in time from the past? Because the game came out tuesday

Just finished the movie, and DAAAAAMMMMNNNN!!! My new favorite movie. So much awesomeness contained in less than 2 hours should be against the law. I'm still processing everything, but talk about a great way to one up previous works. Anyone who hates this movie should just quit watching anime right now, you obviously don't deserve to.

What am I up to right now? -Re-reads news about Love Live Alive being recycled into new robotech project -Checks out shiny new Sayonara no Tsubasa bluray -Laughs hysterically at robotech fans It's good to be a macross fan

Got mine earlier. Some quick thoughts: Game = AWESOME!! As expected, it only covers Itsuwari no Utahime & Sayonara no Tsubasa, but it plays perfectly, everything is beautiful, and once you see how much flak comes from any given Vajra capitol ship, you'll know that this is what everything before was building up to. OMG!! Also, plays more like MUF than MTF, I'm guessing the newer missile lock mechanic wasn't super popular. There are 10 stages, 5 for each movie, an like the demo last year the first round of stages have locked characters/mecha, and once you beat them all, you can play with mecha/characters you've unlocked. There's a decent amount of Trophies, and so far no sign of being able to level up mecha. Also, the YF-29 is teh hotness!! I haven't watched the movie yet, but I did check out some of the extra's, and peak at a couple scenes. The encodingi s phenominal, this is probably the prettiest bluray, anime or otherwise, I've ever seen. I'll probably watch the movie this afternoon. Don't waste time with sh!tty youtube riips, you need to see this proper to appreciate it.

"It was you fans, I learned it by watching YOU!" lol.

I think it's best to leave the two seperate, that way we don't have to deal with Count Ibly, the white light ships, the fact that the Cylon's only screwed with humans from Caprica, and left most of the other worlds they came across genocide free, and worst of all, Galactica 1980.

Has anyone seen any flat cover scans of the LE box or the regular edition sleeve anywhere yet?

I disagree, I hate when they try to run shows infinitum until they get canceled or the crew gives up on them. Give me a good story with a set beginning, middle, and end any day.

Can Schwartzenager play Tetsuo? His one liners would be hilarious.

Sonf of Cyberpunk-anarchy? May be a bit too tempting for the studio to pass up...ugh

Do it, it's hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt_vJyTiXUQ Finally, some gameplay footage, this is the 3rd stage. And finally we know why a full console game will take a while, they're making the effort to synch up actual animation scenes with the stages...BRILLIANT!! I can't wait to play DYRL & 7 stages like this, simply beautiful.

Considering how they treat the original series rights holders, does it really surprise you how they'd treat anyone else?

I actually liked it, nice little nod to Escaflowne & all. Besides, you're going to tell me Kara popping up out of nowhere at the end of 4.1 wasn't one wasn't right up there as one of the best scenes, right along with the jump into New Caprica orbit to launch vipers? I don't even want to know what broadcast watchers went through waiting for that to be resolved. I actually liked what they did with the ending arc of the series. Only place the show really dragged for me was New Caprica, and stupid fatsuit Apollo..

Are you suggesting that Rick Hunter's dad turned to the darkside of the Protoculture and became Jonothan Wolf? BRILLIANT!! Jonathan Wolf: Roy never told you what happened to your father did he? Rick Hunter: He told me enough, he told me you killed him. Jonathan Wolf: I am your father!' Rick Hunter: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! That's not true, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!! Roy: There is another.... Edwards: If Rick Hunter won't be turned to the Darkside... Jonathan Wolf: Your feelings betray you and your...brother. Scott Bernard: Somehow I've known, somehow I've always known...