Thanks VF5SS I wish I had seen your video before transforming my 17 as I was cussing up a storm trying to get that chest plate loose, but after seeing do it, all I can do is say SOB . But not to you, you sir are no SOB but a genius, I am just mad at myself because in transforming it, I damaged the shoulder part a bit. And to Charger69 I did like your joke, sorry it looked like I was being sarcastic, my dry sense of humor can be misleading at times. Didn't mean to make you feel bad.