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Please, those buildings are right oustide of LAX!

Honest question, what does rampaging Zents destroying the Republic have to do with whether or not the Invid are powerful? They must be more powerful than the Masters right, I mean, the Masters are clearly afraid of them once the Zents are gone and The Invid swoop in and conquer Earth easily whereas the Masters just floated around in space. Okay, so because the Regis mentions the Masters and the word "shadow" in the same sentence this is the definitive proof that shadow technology is directly related to the Masters? Again, maybe I'm just too imaginative. Are their more quotes that support this? 1) They might have had to flee because they were not as powerful as A) the Zents, and B) the mysterious Shadow villains that might be coming up. Either that or the Zents kicked their butts twice. Weren't the Invid the threat that created the need for the Zents in the first place? That must make them powerful right? You're totally confusing apathy for weakness. They took over all of the Earth they needed. The series never show them failing at anything. We don't see an episode where a base on Earth successfully repels an attack. Why would they bother attacking the moon also? There was nothing there they wanted, they fully expected humanity to get over the loss of the planet and move on... not keep fighting for it. They also knew they were strong enough that no matter what they threw at them they would easily repel them.

If only the heels on that thing were constructed of clear plastic....

Why can't the Zents have been fighting the Invid for a long time? Why did the Regis have to be referring to the Masters when talking about Shadow? I thought just about nothing was canon anymore and I don't see why having the Invid a powerful villain at some point in their past would really be an issue.

OH, i didn't see MOSPEADA stuff was acceptable too. Lansay Tread I want one of these Mastercard 1/48 VF-1A, who has pics?

Bandai 1/55 strike? I would put that after the VE-1 and the VT-1 and even below the Takatoku SDF-1 1/3000 scale.

i added myself and i think it's sweet.

Does anyone remember what the original retail price was on the 1/48s and the 1/60s? I'm trying to determine the MSRP of my collection for self-loathing purposes.

Yeah, but you knew it was only a matter of time before a thread identical to this was spawned by some newb who didn't realize there was a search function. I've been immersed in my collection lately (putting some in storage, selling others, rearranging displays) so I decided to do a review as I went through 'em all. The thing that got me really going was how bad the MPC's intakes are in fighter mode. If you compare the Taka it actually has a better looking fighter mode than the MPC! So we all know the 1/48 is goregeous but the 1/60 is horrible and I say SHAME on anyone who ever recommended this thing while simultaneously bad-mouthing the Toynami. Both of these toys deserve equal bad-mouthing. The later edition 1/60s started picking it up a bit (collapsible gun stock instead of removable forearm pieces) but they still have screw covers that pop off constantly and absolutely craptastic GERWALK modes. In fact, on the 1/60s that came with armor the GERWALK is almost useless since the armor makes twisting the legs out impossible. The battloid mode with it's large leg gap and super pointy cod aren't all that great either. The MPC has about the same number of issues ranging for horrid fighter mode to extremely limited poseability (although it's more stable than the 1/60).

The question about the Toynami alpha should really be deferred to the MPC thread since that's what it's mostly about. Lots of opinions and pics stated throughout. Lots of folks think they're garbage, I like 'em despite the fact I've had to return three of them (and I haven't heard anything about the last one I sent in for three weeks now). My collection is far from complete... and that's one of the little bugger's that's managed to allude me thus far. I feel kinda bad, I have one picture that has all the fighter modes in one jpeg but it's apparently too big for MW and that's why I had to split it up here. It makes it a lot harder to compare them I also have one pic that is all the battloid shots (front, side, back) but that was obviously too large also. Did someone say something about VF-1Ss? The Yammy 1/60, IMHO, is the worst 1S out there. Sure, it's got detail over the chunky variations but that head is sooooo damn ugly I can't get by it. Photo'd here is the 1990 Bandai VF-1S which previously had the ugliest 1S head before Yamato took the crown. At some point I'll have to add the taka VF-1S for comparison also.

This thread needed pictures so people could judge for themselves.

I couldn't agree more. I said something to this effect on the RT website once and no one seemed to second my opinion. Apparently everyone there insists that the Invid just plain got beat... I didn't see it that way at all. There's also a predominant opinion that the Shadow Fighters could have succeeded in killing the Regis, this is another notion I sincerely doubt. When i first watched the original MOSPEADA and they mentioned they were having problems with the atmosphere I almost spat the soda I was drinking out in laughter. I prefer RT's notion that the captain is just going excessively fast because he knows his ship can't stand another attack. While I would prefer rape scenes be left to hentai I agree in a large part with what you're saying. Personally though, I like the upbeat overall message and I would worry the version of MOSPEADA your discussing would be overly bleak. Part of MOSPEADA's charm is its moments of campiness. If you stripped it of the camp and added cannibalism and rapists I think it'd be really hard to ever get that "Yeah, way to go!" feeling.

What was it? the link doesn't work anymore.

Speaking of the music, I'm not saying I liked the Robotech version of Lancer's songs but I did like the fact they spoke to quiet resistance. Belmont's songs are just kinda interesting "mmootttoooo cycle freeeakkk!!" whereas Lancer is kinda trying to spur rebellion. This worked out particularly well in the NY episode where the backdrop is Lancer singing about winning the fight while Scott and crew are out there winning the fight (IIRC). Also, there is a scene where they name her Aisha so it's not like some unexplained anomaly. They realize it means "princess" while eatiing Aisha Mandarin Oranges and think that's the perfect name for the mysterious beauty they have discovered (again IIRC). The group also does not speak Japanese (although they do, but they don't, you follow?) so to them it's just a pretty foreign name... along the lines of Mylene.

no, someone misread an advertisement stating "The latest VF-1A" for the "the last VF-1A"

LOL, you said that Macross' animation was soooo much better. oh man, i think you're serious too. Should we go through both series and pick out scenes where the animation is absolutely horrible because both have plenty of examples. To say that Macross' animation was soo much better seems downright silly to me. It's like saying "My 2 year old's drawing is sooooo much better than your 2 year old's drawing." Come to think of it though, more examples in Macross spring to mind. Remember when you'd be watching Max, then it'd be Ben, then it'd be Max again in a battle? Remember how the Glaug's arms would spin in circles? Remember that AWESOME scaling affect of the shuttles and SDF-1 approaching and leaving Earth?

Limited Edition I imagine it's a reference to the Low Vis and the clear FP covers.

I also prefer how Ariel as a malfunctioning spy in RT rather than Aisha's being needlessly bumbled in MOSPEADA. Of all the other nuances I usually prefer the original. Again, Lancer having one voice actor is a big plus to me. There's also a feeling in MOSPEADA that everyone knows Aisha is an alien and they're just kinda in moderate denial (although Stig is in a bit more serious denial). RT's characters are in an even greater state of denail/naivette and it's a little more shocking of a revelation. I think both versions work.

I'm not saying it won't take a long time to see some of those re-issues, and the LV certainly ought not be re-issued as it was sold as an LE, but the other 1As and 1Ss will eventually be out again. This is my prediction for you. They've made the investment in the molds, they've recovered their fixed costs, the profit margin on the variable costs is probably nice enough to warrant milking every dollar they can.

I wouldn't argue that MOSPEADA is better than Macross. I love 'em both for different reasons. MOSPEADA would have gotten higher marks in my book if the episodes carried into each other a bit more rather than being so serialized. Macross feels less disjointed and flows a bit more like a soap opera (horrible analogy but I hope you get the jist). They're my two favorites easily. The comment about Lancer having one voice actor in RT I fully support as well. It was a little too dramatic of a change in MOSPEADA.

All the chicks in the bath house was nice fan service too A link to download Love Live Alive was once available in another thread here... that's how I got it. No subtitles though I also thought Mint was much better in MOSPEADA than Annie in RT: TNG... still, she is pretty annoying at times. Rey/Rand still one of my favorite anime characters ever.

It looks like all 1/48s will be re-released eventually so you might be able to play that game indefinitely.

Flight of the Valks!

What is that little MOSPEADA ride armor in front of the blue Legioss? I thought I owned all the ride armor toys but I can't put a finger on that one. Can you provide a closer pic of it??

Anybody ever seen the aliens in Star Wars? Some of them look quite funny. In fact, don't the squid people come from a planet called Calamari? That's funny stuff. Still, I think Star Wars is one heck of a movie franchise so I wouldn't let something as silly as werewolf alien ruin my perception of a fictional universe. Not to start the Mac7 vs RT line again, 'cause really I don't want to do that, but I thought this was humorous since that was exactly my thought when Gamlin ate it... and then was magically resurrected the next episode.