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LOL... just when people start breathing sighs of relief Scream Man brings the cold hard rain of reality to their parades. The one toy I have with any significant yellowing is my SuperOstrich. So sad but fortunately it's minimal and only in a couple spots. Who knew that those little windows in the boxes could be so damaging...

Jeebus, the next time I hear about a Bay Area bank bein' robbed I know I'm gonna check & see if Fortress_Maximus has been on the forums lately...

You're arguing semantics and people are defending semantics. It doesn't seem like any one is debating whether or not the Alpha is or isn't quality. Sounds universal that everyone was let down by it.

I read both versions of that as well a while back.

Exactly... I'll be one of those fools too... and I'll be posting a big review I'm sure. As to the whole "quality control" seems like an argument over people's definitions more than the toys. There's no argument they have problems. Are they design problems? Are they problems when the toy was being built? Are they problems with the choices of materials? What do we call the different problems? Manufacture problems? Quality problems? Design problems? The Alpha has problems everywhere. The design of the locking mechanisms is imperfect because it doesn't allow any room for the inevitable manufacture problems, the manufacture problems may be related to the choice of materials, etc. Basically, trying to pinpoint the problem and put a label on it is an effort in futility. That all said, when you do win the lottery and get a really cool Alpha it does pay off. I've bought a ton of Alphas and the few I have the seem to have been built just right are beautiful display pieces. Sure, they could be better in lots of ways still but had they all worked out as well as the best examples out there then I imagine the fan reaction would have been MUCH better. There are lots of ways for Toynami to screw up the Cyclone but if they don't it could be really wonderful. I have my own theories but I'm trying to stay really open-minded here.

Well, I'm no Toynami lover but I do own many and not a single one is yellowed. I have treated all my toys the same and only one shows yellowing... a 1/60 VF-1A CF TRU (only on two landing gear doors though). I've seen a 1/48 go for sale with "slight yellowing" but I believe it had been used in a store display so it would be under the worst conditions (constant light) possible. Leave any toy in the sun or under light constantly and it will yellow

Given the current sentiment of the board: "I'll never buy a Yamato first run product again" "Everything costs too much" "These companies are intentionally going out of their way to screw us" "Every piece on my toy breaks" It should be anything but surprising to see negativity immediately upon the discussion of any new toy. I think it's healthy though, set your hopes real low and maybe your expectations will be surpassed.

Vince & Reinhardt actually wear "pantaloons" instead of tights.

I tried to say that and i said "Broccoli"

So Valkyrie is to transformable fighter as Kleenex is to tissue (that's a nod for those of you who remember taking your SATs)

This was in a thread here once upon a time. I remember gawking over it before.

Yeah, I asked about the head shot but nobody answered

The green Alpha historically in toys has always been attributed to Yellow although yes, Rey does fly it occasionally. Rey also flies the Beta a couple times. The problem with his ride armor is that it's just a less cool version of Stig's. What would be cool is if you could swap Stig's head with Rey's and they included the two pieces for the arms to convert the Ride Armor into whichever you liked (obviously you'd need a more robust sticker sheet as well). Do I think that would ever happen? No... not it a toy, just models. Unlike most my other reviews that take several months to come out, I'll preorder these to get them pretty quick and do as thorough a review as possible on my site.

The Gakken Tread (Lansey Tread) is 1/72 scale and is tiny. That toy would be absolutely useless in Toynami's hands. Check out my review of the 1/72 Alpha if you need to know why the 1/72 Beta would be so usless by clicking here. Robotech.com made a big deal out of the Cyclones and Shadow Fighters on their page but no mention of the Beta. I think Mog has the right attitude just yet.

Yep, when I read Eugimon's first post I was like "Yeah, I totally see what he's talking about." So, I decided to scour my pic collection for stills of the Alpha/Beta to prove what his point was. Unfortunately, I only have one still of the two combined (most my stills of the Beta are it in battloid kicking butt). Here's the one still I have... looks like it pretty closely resembles the Toynami. That's probably just because the two combined looked better in some episodes than in others. As was said, LOTS of anime magic in Mospeada...

So the rules are all Macross toys made by Yamato? Or is it all Macross toys in general? If it's all Macross toys in general the Takatoku 1/100 series (except Max) and an ultra minty VF-1A HCM at a bargain price are the only things I'm lacking (of stuff that exists that I want) . There's also one old Mospeada toy I haven't tracked down. Beyond that it's whatever comes out!

Toynami is certainly an anomaly at the moment. We see the Beta and then it vanishes and is completely replaced by the Macross figures. Then Macross figures vanish and are completely replaced by New Gen stuff. Seems to me that Toynami isn't capable of carrying more than one big production at a time. If they're going back to Robotech to take advantage of Shadow Chronicles then it may take a while for them to get back to Macross... I don't know though, the Macross line seems too cheap and easy to ditch and it doesn't seem like it's selling to bad either.

The poseable hands on the VF-1 series blow away anything done by Yamato to date. They might not be the best poseable hands on any toy ever but they work pretty darn well. If the Alpha hands were remolded out of a different material they'd be stellar (although I don't have one in front of me so I think they may be lacking in the wrist articulation field). I'm happy with swappable hands though but I would like for one set of hands to work in both modes.

Ooh, looks like there might be a targeting scope hidden away in the right chest piece.. I'm a little confused about where the front shocks are going to go, the Armor mode pics don't seem to show them anywhere (on the models and toys they're very promient over the arms). I think the wonkiness is mostly contributable to the fact the bike looks a bit too small for the rider.

Nice how they didn't transform that Alpha correctly (nice wing Noob)!!! I was thinking about it, with more Alphas coming out that just makes more likelihood for the Betas at some point. I really hope we get one as it will validate my owning so damn many Alphas... Out of curiosity, what did you want to see in this toy that isn't present that is bumming you out? I can't tell from your comment if you just don't like the Beta (which is a big box with wings) or if you think this toy makes the fact it is a big box with wings too apparent.

11lbs 11oz??? Was he late? Obviously congratulations. Edit - she? Yeah, I'm an idiot... I think I was too busy staring at the weight!

Gakken made models also. I don't own any but Totoro's pic would be, if it's correct, the picture of the Gakken model, not the toy you're thinking of. I believe the toy is 1/8 scale, not 1/12 scale.

You know, for their size Kaiyodo did pretty well for the detail on their destroids. I totally think a 1/60 scale Destroid would be fine.

Anyone looking for Lancer's swords in New Gen (or Mospeada) won't see them. His ride armor has them but they're never in the animation. I don't like the Cyclones as toys. Honestly, the MPC Alpha is a step-up from Imai's kit and I'm sure the Cyclone will also be much better than the model kit. That said, 10 to 20 years later a toy should be a TON better than that model and once again Toynami's mild improvements just won't be enough. That said, there's no way this will be a three volume MPC, we'll see Fuke and Rey no doubt, as well as a Vince in synchro attire. It's very depressing to see that the Shadow figures are just the exact same Alphas with different hands/heads/paint jobs. I don't see an obvious improvement in any way... except they knew to take pictures to hide the arched back. Let's hope there's improvement that fixes that. Obviously no ball joints at the hip and I doubt they took the diecast out of the forearms so don't expect anything good from Shadow toys.

NOOOOO!!!!! <gasp gasp> NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Lancer better have real friggin' swords.