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But a tank is better? Isn't it true that Kawamori didn't actually design the original destroids? Is it possible that he has simply excluded them (or relegated them to museum status) as simply acknowledgement that they were never his babies? Yeah, he's gone nuts with new valk designs but he always stated that was his passion. There inclusion in MacZero seems to be his way of making all of this okay by implying that they were just early technology that became obsolete. The problem is that doesn't really make sense. In fact, a destroid makes WAY more sense in space combat than a transformable jet. Think about it, if you were on a colony ship due to spend 99% of its existence outside of the atmosphere wouldn't you have the majority of your arsenal be composed of vehicles that were built without the restrictions of atmospheric combat? Macross can't do that though because then it would be like Gundam and I think that's the real reason we've seen the demise of the destroid. Another show already has cornered the market on big, human-shaped, robots. Think what the destroids would be like if they had evolved... they would be completely friggin' awesome and in a show based on space combat you'd wonder why everyone wasn't floating around in space in destroids more reminscent of GBP'ed Valks than the ol' clunkers of the original show.

No other valks but if you have another SDF-1 this might help:

DYRL paint schemes = teh lame. I don't own any of the following- Hikkie 1S Hikkie 1A Max 1A Hayao 1A

LV1 goes for about $300. Really pristine never opened ones can fetch up to $400 but it's been a while since I saw that happen.

Effective in terms of the animation is impossible to determine since we weren't given a hero destroid pilot. They were mobile defense platforms on the SDF-1 though and I have to imagine that's more effective (less cost effective) than fixed ones. There are lots of arguments for and against destroids but they HAVE to be cheaper than Valks to build and they HAVE to be more versatile in combat than a tank. I really see no reason why they wouldn't exist at all. I'd be happy to see them in their standard cameo-type role. If it's a worry about streets and buildings why not just have smaller Destroids?

The Steatlh giftset might get pretty rare also.

<- Praying against mecha knife fights but also remembering some pretty crazy stuff from the final Macross episodes (like giant cigars, turkey legs, etc.). If this happens it won't be the end of the world, it just won't be something I love.

What really wouldn't seem right is how big a Mospeada Legioss would be at 1/60 scale. It would make the VF-1 seem LARGE. The idea back in the 80s, amongst certain designers at least, was that with technology came the ability to make everything we have now much smaller and much better simultaneously. It seems that Macross kind of started in that direction before swinging back the opposite way to "bigger is better"

$300 can get you a decent hooker in some places... ya know, from what I hear.

If you don't mind my asking, what kind of a price are you talking about?

People made "credit card valks" out of stripped Stealths if that helps you out. I still think it's wrong to consider the Meteor Buster anything more than a custom even if it is a custom based off of Kawamori's input and given out as a prize by a magazine.

http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?show...l=meteor+buster Try clicking that for the Meteor Buster thread

No, I think that's a very cool scene, but a bayonet is different from a separate knife. It turns the expended gun you have from a bludgeoning weapon to a stabbing weapon. Also, it wasn't like the bad guy was shown being unaffected by all of Isamu's bullets only to finally be injured by his bayonet.

Oh God, I hope that's a Manga only thing or that they handle it very carefully.

I didn't think the Meteor Busters was a Yamato product, I thought they (a magazine) were just giving away a custom Yammy 1/48 based on a Kawamori drawing or something. To be fair, he did list three items but I was just about to point out he had a Mospeada item in there too:

Considered cheap compared to other dealers? Yes. Considered cheap compared to other toys? No.

I think there might be a compelling story in Eugimon's Omega Pants <TM> Wrong thread?

While that may be true in general, I think most people on these boards have seen more of Southern Cross and Mospeada than many other animes out there. Also, I thought this board got all agro on people for posting download sites to licensed material? LOL, these probably don't count because of HG involvement though!

I'm definitely planning on buying one but I was waiting until they got to MPC prices (like $55 shipped). Part of me refuses to believe they're actually WORSE than Toynami's offerings. There's also some strange backstory on who made them and how though as Toynami seems to be blaming Aoshima for the problems and Aoshima seems to be blaming Toynami (so says some mod at RT.com though... so take that for what it's worth).

Agreed, both are much better in their original Japanese incarnations but Southern Cross is completely different. Mospeada's changes are a lot more minor and tend to flesh out the inbit a bit more (they're not really parasitic creatures, they're rebuilding the Earth).

Imagine you, right now, driving down the street. This may not be true of you but also imagine you stand very averse to physical violence after years of war. Now imagine your car transformed into a forty foot tall robot just in time to be attacked by a 40' alien soldier. That's a bit more jarring than being on a space colony where you know all sorts of aliens are out to get you and you're in training to be a soldier when you get a sudden opportunity to act as one. Now, since Alto in episode one ends in what is a clear homage to a scene from Hikaru in the first Macross series I'd say it's hard to paint Hikaru as some do-nothing panzy in the beginning of Macross. I'd say he had a lot more going on.

Tentacles!!!! j/k

Huh? You prefer all white valks with one stripe of color because they are LESS bland?

I thought it looked more like the colony found the bugs. Don't we see the bug kick on? It seems to me like the elintseeker entered the bug's area which set them off. It didn't seem to me like th bugs were out in space pursuing anything.

while that is pretty cool and very artistic.... I wouldn't really vote for it as a scheme... it's a bit too conspicuous for my shelves.