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Yeah. it was meh this year compared to last year's. there weren't any pornstars on Saturday, too. Just Jessica Alba and that was an adventure just trying to survive the sardines-like squashing of the fans just to get a glimpse of her. I'll post some pics later, as I'm still trying to free up space, but here are the stuff from the Yamato-USA booth. No valkyries, tho.

jawsome!!!

errr, i don't know what you mean. The GitS-movie dubs were some of the best dubs ever done. The japanese-dubs for the movie was pretty dull in comparison. The only weak vocal in SAC was Crispin Freeman's Togusa.

The dubs were mostly excellent and in-character. Only Togusa' s dub was rather weak and lame compared to the Movie's original dub-actor. It's pretty much as good as the movie's dub. Almost the same voice-actors. But like I said, Crispin Freeman's Togusa was just really weak. Dunno why they didn't get the original dub-actor (christopher joyce) to reprise the role. But if you'd hated the movie's dubs, then you'll prolly also hate the Gits-Sac dubs.

got mine on Friday. have a thread about it at animeondvd.com http://forums.animeondvd.com/showflat.php?...sb=5&o=&fpart=1

yeah. Those were from the DYRL-game for consoles.

got this from arstechnica.

ok, with this yammie-stands, can one do DYRL-launch or not?

yeah. those legs make it look worse than weird. it looks like a really gay arm-slave/aestivalis mecha. heh!

Mari. before she became a hottie.

yes. happy 20th to DYRL!!! gawd, some members here are prolly younger than DYRL. lol!

rol!

I don't like the looping stock-footage mecha animation in M7. You know what I'm talking about. The VF-17 and the VF-19 were primary culprits during transformations/posing. The Soundforce mecha, too. It's like they took a cheap page from magical-shows like Sailor Moon to come up with that repeating animation-footage. And the way they made Milia's VF-22 blush and giggle and stuff in one episode (i think it's in the extra-episodes), C'MON! That's really crossing the line there. I don't remember Macross-TV having as much looping ridiculously-looking stock-footage of transformations (if any at all) and other stuff like the stuff you get in M7.

Minmay-DYRL is just very pretty. Simple design, but very effective. yeah. i'm a minmay-fanboy.

there is only one Minmay!

I highly suggest that you take 0080-War in the Pocket a spin since you like 08th MS Team already. It's only 6-eps and the character designs were by Mikimoto and were really good. The story is much better than 08th-MS Team, actually. Far more emotional and realistic ending.

Those vendors are just dumbasses. lol! Why the heck would anyone sell bootleg-dvd's in a convention sponsored by Bandai??? lol! dumb people.

Fyi. Bandai Entertainment Cracks Down on DVD Piracy and Intellectual Property Infringement

Okay, wondering what Gonzo-art is. I guess it's stuff like on this page: http://www.gonzo.co.jp/english/titles/index.html From those examples, I say: some of it looks nice ('wish you were here') but a lot of it is too big-eyed. Any particular designers? And/or I'm just curious and would appreciate if you could elaborate on the wow-effect. OT, but Gonzo-art is the stuff you see in titles like Full Metal Panic, Kiddy Grade, Gatekeepers, etc, etc. Almost all Gonzo-titles characters look eerily similar to each other. Give or take the differences in clothing and the length/color of hair. Compared to Mikimoto's work, where Hal's pretty varied in Macross/DYRL, Gundam-0080, and Macross-II/Macross-7.

That's a rather roundabout way of looking past M7's faults. In the first place, why would anyone even compare the animation-quality of M7 to SDF-TV when SDF-TV was more than 10-12 years older than M7. Try to compare the shows with it's peers, give or take 3-5 years differential. Not a 10+ years differential. A 10+ years differential will almost always be a significant step-up in animation and technology. That's a complete given. Even the stories are different. We were spoiled with SDF-TV and Macross Plus types of stories, respectively. Then M7 brought us down with what essentially comes down to as some weird band-story in space. You M7-fans like it that way. Others just don't. There really is almost no merit in M7 compare with it's peers. Be it animation, characterizations, plot, music, or whatever. The only merit I can think of is it has the Macross-monicker attached to it. That's just about it. It's really a disappointing series. EVA's not the only significant show of the mid-90's in terms of theme and character-development. Nadesico blows out EVA in pretty much everything, including the Rei-vs-Ruri argument, (well except the Asuka-argument ). At any rate, one can easily follow Akito Tenkawa's development compare to Basara's development or lack thereof. As for comparing M7, EVA and Nadesico shows, Nadesico and M7 both share the peacenik themes, and yet Nadesico pulls it off better with humor and smart cynicism and parodies, and even better songs, whereas M7 pulls it's peacenik-theme off to nowhere. Nadesico's character death-tragedies were better than M7's character death-tragedies. The psuedo-political backstory is better in Nadesico than in M7. I dunno who you're referring to, but I never said there were no reasons to like M7. I'd even stated already that I tolerate M7 because of Max and Miria. I further said that M7 was just severely lacking in comparison with it's peers. I appreciate that you guys like M7. Really, I do. It's a great thing to be fan of any show. But just try not to pull of non-sequitur comparisons between a 20+ year-old show (SDF-TV) and a 9+ year-old show (M7) in terms of animation and what have yah. Each show should just be compared to it's peers.

fwiw, I think Hal just need to update his character-art and designs. I want a more updated Ishtar-like designs from Hal. Zero actually had good character-designs on par with the other anime right now. It doesn't have the wow-effect of Gonzo-art, but it's also not as generic and much-abused like Gonzo-art.

And this makes sense because...? It doesn't make sense to you? It makes sense that compare to the other animation of the mid-90's time, M7 was just severely lacking in comparison. Heck! For pure animation and designs category... EVA had an atrocious pseudo-"mecha", yet the animation was great. Gundam Wing blows the mechas of M7 out of the water on just designs alone. G-Gundam had an atrocious storyline and debasing of Gundam-mecha, yet as corny as the G-Gundam mechas were, the M7 mechas were even more cornier. Nadesico's a parody of Macross, yet the Aestivalis blows EVA, Gundam and M7 in terms of the mechas and story/characterizations. That never happened before. DYRL animation and designs still blows Zeta-Gundam and CCA off the water. M7 completely blew the lead that Macross-Plus gave the franchise in animation, designs, characters, and story-plot over the other anime-series of the same period. And for all the animation-mistakes and stuff of SDF-TV, it's still a way better story and characters to watch, follow, and emphatize than with First Gundam or any of it's peers (southern cross, mospeada, orguss, dunbine, etc), and even with the great Zeta-Gundam story. Can't really say the same with M7 in comparison to it's peers. It's all about the money. I tolerated it in SDF M cause the story was great, and there is a measure of great art. Same thing goes towards M7. Dunno about the money thing, but I only tolerate M7 because of Max and Miria.

why don't you pick them up from me? my price is $11 each(wholesale) and we could use your support getting to the 100 stand mark. click the link in my sig if you're interested. damn! i should've known about your offer earlier. already blew my budget for the month of july.

True, but I would argue that your conclusion only applies to SDF-M and thats only because of RT. Other than that Gundam is WAY more popular than Macross. Making comparisons to the two outside of Japan is difficult because of so many other variables like liscencing, marketing, and distribution. Therein lies the problem. licensing, marketing and distribution. especially here in the States. Macross-franchise is pretty much hobbled by HG. Yes, we got the animeigo-sets, but we don't have DYRL nor Macross Zero. We also don't see the Yammies in Toys-R-Us and other retail stores for proper exposure. Instead, we get those super-sucky hg-branded MPCs and poo. We even got a shitty Macross Plus movie-edition vhs-dump video with hard-subs. In contrast, Gundam-franchise doesn't have any of that problem. Go to a wal-mart and you'll see a bunch of Gundam-related merchandizes. The Gundam-dvd's are all pretty much swanky in video and features. *sigh*