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aha! behold! Chaos Bringer! i haz it now! and is really damn huge! pretty kewl spiffy plastic-packaging, actually. $59.99 from amzn a few weeks ago...

hey now! he did have his G1-voice when he uttered Prime's name in the 0.5secs alloted vocal-time he had. that's about it, tho. ; and, oh yeah. the nearest Target and Wally's over here are just overflowing with Generations Kup now. still no Wreck-Gar or Warpath, tho.

well, if he did it like the way Vash the Stampede did, maybe he'll be alot more likable and stuff. LOVE AND PEACE!

Well, you know, there are several proper ways to use a term besides it's dictionary-meaning. It might actually even have different meaning based on context, usage and stuff. Like, you know, the term "kappa". or "Otaku". or whatever else japanese-terms that have multiple meanings and usage and stuff... "Definitive purpose" meaning "no other options left". "Pacify" fits only Basara, but not the other Macross-pilots. So the term fails for comparison's sake. Maybe if we're comparing Basara with the Macross-babes instead, it'll have a better chance for usage. If it's the only viable option left, then yes it's a kamikaze. If there are actually other viable and available options left, then no. Definitely not a kamikaze. It'll just be a lazy usage of the kamikaze-term. That's fine with me.

you are willfully not reading the other part of my post? here's the pertinent section again: That should be clear enough for the usage of the term "kamikaze". It's not that I dislike Basara at all. I think I mentioned that I actually like him better than Alto I'm just giving you some rebuttal for the "heroic" aspect of the other Macross-pilots to contrast with what you posted about them to compare to Basara.

Try to read my post above you to hopefully make sense of what I was trying to convey to you.

I think you're just hung up on some dictionary-meaning. Read the listing again. The "kamikaze" death-dive and such refers to the last desperate no-other-options attack available to those Macross-pilots. Whether to rescue the lead-girl or destroy the enemy or both. That is quite clear on the listings I've made. Maybe you overlooked it? In contrast, Basara always have other available options. Yet, he decides not to use them every time and he just stupidly charge in the middle of the battles. That is just not heroic and I just cannot consider that a "kamikaze" something in the context similar to what the other macross-heroes did. The theme Renato opined was that those other Macross-pilots didn't do anything heroic more than Basara. I listed some of the stuff I remember as a rebuttal. Maybe you both consider Basara interjecting himself as a peacenik in the middle of a raging battle to sing a song as "heroic". I just don't. Especially in contrast to what the other Macross-pilots did do. Is that clear enough for you?

go do some of your own research, then. that said, maybe you should provide some rebuttal on the heroic listings I'd made and/or try to paint Basara as a heroic figure instead?

:sigh: not all kamikaze pilots died in ww2, you know...

No. Like I said, you do not know what you're talking about.

are you that dense to be aware or know of the context in how I used it in my listing of the heroic acts?

with a definitive purpose...

I do not think you know what you're talking about.

:sigh: Maybe you should rewatch it and find out who actually was protecting Mylene in ep28. That said, not even sure why you're putting that type of "rescue" with the other known Macross-rescues. It was neither heroic nor intense like the other Macross-rescues. That kind of "rescuing" from M7 is just too juvenile to even consider. I mean, you know, Alto's rescue of Ranka in ep1 was just many many many much much much more awesome sauce in comparison. and i'm way way too neutral/borderline-dislike on both Alto and Frontier. well, you should find out. maybe it's just not out in Japan, yet, but I don't think it's geoblocked. bonus: I tell you what. Basara got nothing against this fave circle-glasses-wearing extreme-peacenik character of mine. and he's not even a pony...:

As I've listed, to be a Macross hero, the lead dude is supposed to rescue the maiden (Minmay/Misa/Sara/Ishtar/Myung) or destroy the enemy (Bodolza, Sharon) via kamikaze. Basara doesn't really do any of that. His repeated interjection are not even heroic in nature or definition. It's just selfish indulgence. Even with the battles in M7 that are all pretty much comically animated and choreographed in looping recycled stock-footages. In the end, what he does in M7 are all stuff designed to appeal to useless shenanigans. Twilight Sparkle and Pinky Pie and the rest of MLP:FIM crew does a much much better job of doing that and they're all ponies.

roflmao! those were really funny stuff. until you blind yourself with your Basara-love. If you really wanna be serious about the hero-thing, tho, here's how you should do it: Hikaru (TV): kamikaze rescue of Misa in Alaska Base. Hikaru (DYRL): kamikaze assassination of Bodolza. Hibiki (II): kamikaze rescue (or kidnapping) of Ishtar. then Sylvie kamikaze rescues him. Oy, Vey! Isamu (Plus tv/movie): kamikaze death-dive to destroy Sharon. Shin: Kamikaze death-dive to spring Sara. vs Basara: Whale Bukake so, you know, there's that kamikaze-pattern among the lead-dudes of Macross-franchise. except for Basara. As to why I didn't include Alto. well, I got way too bored watching Frontier that I actually thought Basara was alot more interesting than him and the stupid shipping-wars by the Frontier-fans. ;

i think M7 anime is very awesome. for a 10-year-old kid. and/or somebody with a 10-year-old-kid mindset. or something... oh, and I think Sivil's really a trap.

uhhm, how exactly do you think bootlegs are made of??? that said, you can prolly get better macross-art on your own to silkscreen your own "basement-dvd". better quality translations, too. unless, of course, you and your friends are so much into spending/buying hk-engrish bootlegs...

YO! Amazon's Unicron is back on pre-order ($59.99): http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Anniversary-Limited-Unicron-Kranix/dp/B004ZKT4KI better hurry before the scalpers get 'em again!

crap! posted in the wrong tf-thread. ; anyway, hopefully i get my TF3-order (bd/dvd edition) delivered tomorrow, even tho it's slated for monday. really thought i should've just went out and bought it locally today. for $2 less...

I don't see where my reply was in anyway unclear or difficult to understand, but let's try it this way: All official DYRL dvd editions (both remastered and not-remastered) are only playable by Region-2 dvd-players. The only dvd that will play on US-players are bootlegs of the fansubs.

"Fleet" is nice. Too bad it's not canon anymore.

No. Only Region-2. I think it'll be easier for you to just get the fansub of the remastered-edition. It's still out and about.

lol! The only time Basara had some "cummin'" for him was when the space whale went bukake on his VF-19...

that's nice and all, but what's taking you so long to decide? are you really buying one or are you just trolling us? regardless, we are expecting that you are going to post pics of whichever you bought.