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Honestly, I really don't think it matters one way or the other where Australia's concerned. It's such a small market, even compared to the anime industry in America, that in terms of the potential profits involved, it really isn't worth it for Australian distributors to license, translate, and dub shows directly from Japan. It's considerably cheaper and easier for distributors in Australia to obtain the regional distribution rights to the American distributor's finished product. It's why the Australian anime industry releases lag up to several years behind the American industry, and why there's such a preponderance of imported American TV on Australian networks... it's cheaper that way. So really, even if Harmony Gold doesn't have the legal wherewithal to trademark the name "Macross" in Australia, it really doesn't matter because almost all of your anime is coming secondhand from American distributors and is just being filtered by your regional distributors. EDIT: As the above concerns the entertainment industry in Oz, we wish to remind you that it in no way reflects the opinions, views, or beliefs of the Lollipop Guild. (I know, I know, reaching for the low-hanging fruit)

To say nothing of the fact that you're even newer to Macross than you are to web forums... Saraphys hit the nail on the head... there's so much drama and rampant stupidity coming from fans of the Robotech franchise and, to a lesser extent, Harmony Gold itself, that this thread will probably never find itself short of topics for discussion or targets for a well-deserved verbal thrashing.

About three minutes of silence... why? Well, compared to many of the seemingly nonsensical decisions made by Harmony Gold's creative staff in the past few years, the decision to shed the confused mess of licensed merchandise that accumulated while they weren't paying attention to what their licensees were doing with a continuity reboot is a fairly logical decision. It might not have gone over well with the fans who'd spent a fair bit of money collecting those comics, but it was done for sound reasons... issues of low quality aside, the vast majority of those comics contradict each other and the core continuity of the series. It'd be one thing if they could fit those stories into a coherent whole, but with few exceptions they're independent one-off stories, none of which jive with each other. Most of them are just cheap, low-quality comics churned out to squeeze a bit more cash from a dying property.

There are five songs: "Stage Fright", "The Man in My Life", "To Be in Love", "We Will Win", and "It's You". There's also a partial song that crops up in episode 28 called "The Right Move".

Nah, the gold standard for overdue is definitely Five Star Stories... we've been waiting for Book XIII for how long? Five years? More? Still, as interesting as Macross: the First is, I can definitely see why people're impatient for more of it... I'm eagerly awaiting translations beyond the first chapter.

Oh joy, let's see where this goes... with a location like "Tirol" in your profile I'm almost afraid this'll be the next Captain Christopher Donovan. Okay... that's really more a statement of opinion than anything else... and not a commonly-held opinion either. Even Robotech fans generally think the voice acting in Robotech is kind of weak, rife with poor casting decisions and awkward, heavily dated dialogue. My own rebuttal would consist of just three names... "Rebecca Forstadt", "Greg Finley", and "Cam Clarke". Awkward, stilted, borderline bad Trek fanfic dialogue aside, Rebecca Forstadt's portrayal of Minmei was painful on the ears even when she wasn't singing, Greg Finley's horrible faux-Russian accent was every bit as obnoxiously stereotypical as Star Trek's Pavel Chekhov, and Cam Clarke's kind of reedy nerd voice was just totally at odds with Max's reputation as a hotshot. Of course, when you put it in context against the American sci-fi/action cartoons of the day, they weren't exactly great either, so it might be said to compare favorably. Still, even by 1990s standards, the RT dub was atrocious. Again, I disagree. To a minor extent, Roy did fulfill some of the stereotypical aspects of the loudmouth American hotshot, but there were also a number of instances where that stereotype was subverted in Roy's case in Macross. Robotech's Roy is the very picture of the two-dimensional American hotshot pilot, especially outside the TV series. Macross takes an approach rather like Star Trek: the Next Generation, where most of the cast has an established ethnic background, but they never really play anyone off as the token foreigner or force anyone to stick out as the result of not being from "around here". The Robotech adaptation follows an approach more like the original Star Trek series, where most of the cast fits the comfortable white American mold, with a few highly visible stereotypical foreigners thrown in to make the cast sound multicultural... like Henry Gloval and Dr. Lang. Robotech's Minmei has five songs, two of which are repeated endlessly and the other three which are almost never used. Macross's Minmay had about eight songs, which affords them far greater variety. Was the new song good? Survey says "no". In the six years I was on Robotech.com only twice did I ever see anyone attempt to defend Minmei's singing as something other than an experience in auditory torture more fit for the ATF to use to break standoffs than as a form of entertainment. Generally speaking, even veteran Robotech fans reach for the mute button when Rebecca Forstadt starts crooning. She freely admits that she knows she's a lousy singer too, and claims they had to loosen her up with liquor before they could get her to sing. Factor in the fact that Robotech uses the same Minmei songs over and over again across three sagas and a movie, whereas Macross has a continual influx of new music, and the numbers get far, FAR less favorable for Robotech...

It's not just that they're trying to suppress debate and the free expression of opinion among fans of Robotech, the real problem is their obvious ulterior motives for doing so. Given his behavior in the various legal threads on RT.com, Maverick reacts so violently to his assertions being questioned because he wants to be seen as a well-connected fan with inside knowledge and to exert his authority over others because his wife wears the pants at home. It's pretty much common knowledge that MEMO does because he's hoping if he sucks up to Harmony Gold enough he'll be the next fan to be offered a job by Harmony Gold. Doug Bendo does it because he's eager to stir up as much drama as possible to entice/goad people onto his podcast and try to validate his claim that he's the #1 Robotech fan and #1 authority on the Robotech universe. Pizza's motivations are unclear, but I'm relatively sure he's doing it because he knows that so long as he toadies up to MEMO he can do whatever he likes without being banned. Wait, you've found a Robotech fan with a cogent, well-reasoned argument in Robotech's favor? DON'T KEEP IT TO YOURSELF MAN! That's the holy grail we've been chasing for years! It's unheard of... like an honest politician or a client-friendly HMO. It's not just those, but I'm glad you see where I'm coming from here... You're correct... to a point. If our controversial friend Carl Macek had simply stuck to the facts instead of trying to exaggerate his role in the production process and make it appear as though he were the show's visionary creator (ala Gene Roddenberry) instead of just a moderately competent editor, Robotech would probably be held in higher regard than it is today. It can be excused to some extent while America remained largely ignorant of anime, but once the anime industry took off and the show's origins came to light, they should've let go of the pretense that they'd created the show. Instead, they made a relatively minor change of tack, maintaining that the story was entirely their creation, but that it was used to drastically improve three unrelated, inferior Japanese shows that would otherwise not be worth paying any heed to. This is the same strategy they're still using today... "Yes, we acknowledge that Robotech was made from Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada, but the story's all us and it's much much better than those crappy Japanese shows. You can look into them if you want, but Robotechs much better." I was an invited guest on his podcast when he discussed Gundam's various alternate universe shows (badly, with frequent errors)... he never even mentioned Flay's nudity, or the fact that Kira farts her later on in the series... which is shown on screen BTW.

If the next couple of issues turned out to be a Macross II binge to get the last couple of articles out of the way, I would just be thrilled... at this pace I'm almost afraid they're not going to finish Macross II because they wasted all that time dicking around with the VF-0, VF-1, and Sound Force garbage. Well, the footage seems to hint that the operator is a brainwashed Zentradi soldier, and the torso block looks a lot like the cockpit of a conventional Zentradi Army Regult. *shrug* I would've been astonished if it had gotten even half a sheet, since there's virtually no art for the mecha except a few diagrams of its armaments (the pop-out missile launchers in the leg, and the weird funnel-like missiles in the arm).

Even the simple fact that Robotech is a niche title that exists at the expense of a legitimate franchise isn't really necessary to demolish the majority of the arguments in Robotech's favor since they all usually boil down to one or more of the following: nostalgia-induced rose-tinted glasses, ignorance of the originals and real anime in general, and a xenophobic or lazy desire to avoid having to learn something about another culture. You should go back and read some of Carl Macek's old interviews sometime... on several occasions he tries to claim that the animation was made specifically for Robotech, and/or that the series is entirely his creation. Ignoring them doesn't fly anymore now that the existence of the originals is common knowledge... it wasn't thus back in the earlier years of Robotech. Now they try to handwave aside the originals as either utterly unimportant, nowhere near as good as the adaptation, or generally not worth watching. Especially when they pump Carl Macek for remarks on how he thinks he did a much better job with the story than the Japanese creators did, and remarks taken out of context to make it sound like Studio Nue thought Robotech was a superior story. See my clarification above.

Well, there's that... but by that extension there ought to be four or five more U.N. Spacy mechanic sheets in Chronicle's Macross II section. As of yet, they haven't covered the VF-2SS w/ Super Armed Packs, the VF-2JA, the Metal Siren, the VF-XX Zentradi Valkyrie (except in passing), the GERWALKroid, the Gloria, the standard battleship, the light carrier/rescue ship, and the little background mecha. My guess would be: UNS 01A VF-2SS UNS 01B VF-2SS w/ Super Armed Pack UNS 02A VF-2JA UNS 03A VA-1SS UNS 04A Destroids UNS 05A U.N. Spacy Weapons (background mecha) UNS 06A Macross Cannon & Heracles UNS 07A Gloria, Battleship & Rescue Ship Well, unsatisfying name or no... it's lumped in with the Zentradi-use mecha of the Mardook forces, which means the debate over exactly what scale the pilot must be is effectively solved. Must be a VERY cramped cockpit in there... my guess would be Regult-style.

As the addition of voice actors who'd previously worked on Star Trek and Star Wars was, along with the blatant and pointless cheesecake, a ridiculously transparent attempt to make the Shadow Chronicles movie appeal to groups more mainstream than the small and rapidly dwindling Robotech fanbase, a tactic that failed spectacularly, I think it safe to say that the return of "Rick Hunter" was probably the bigger draw for its target audience. Granted, Mark Hamill is a big name in sci-fi because of Star Wars, but he hasn't really done much for the genre since the 80s, and his character dies after only half a dozen lines in the first fifteen minutes of the movie. The one who hoggest most of the screen time was virtual nobody Chase Masterson (probably by dint of being cheaper)... whose sole Star Trek acting credential was to play a ditsy minor recurring bar girl on Star Trek: Deep Space 9. Exactly... this is the line we're drawing here. We're not using the Japanese definition of the word, which would apply to any animated show. Rather, we're using the conventionally-accepted Western usage of the word to refer specifically to animation done in the Japanese style. Two for two... we're using the term "bootleg" pejoratively here. We're well aware Robotech isn't literally a bootleg, but we call it one because of Harmony Gold's frequent attempts to ignore the existence of the originals, handwave them aside as inferior to their slipshod adaptation, and their occasional attempts to pretend that everything in Robotech was their idea. lol, I've known Saraphys for a while, and he's pretty much taken to heart the commonly-held stereotype (abroad) that Americans tend to be on the stupid side... of course considering my own experiences with my fellow Americans, I'm inclined to agree to a somewhat less extreme extent that the stupids do tend to outnumber the intelligent, decent folks by a rather frightening margin.

It's nothing special... Robotech.com used to have a fair few people capable of that same feat, but most of them got sick of waiting for Harmony Gold to stop giving each other piggyback rides and produce a sequel that didn't suck, and the few who remained got on the wrong side of the deadly dimwit duo of Maverick_LSC and MEMO1DOMINION for daring to voice uncomfortable truths about Harmony Gold's ability to use material from Macross that left Harmony Gold and the dimwit duo looking decidedly foolish. Beats me, I don't know jack about most sports... the only ones I follow are the ones I don't completely suck at... mostly martial arts and golf. What DR Movie does for Studio Ghibli and company is exactly what I said it was... the most tedious, time-consuming and generally unrewarding part of the animation process: tweening. They're VERY good at tweening. Producing their own key animation or CG... not so much.

A thousand apologies... It's not entirely fair to say that a show animated in Korea can't be anime, since rather a lot of the more tedious parts of the animation process (tweening) are frequently done by South Korean studios as a cost-cutting measure. It is rather an ironic choice for Harmony Gold to select a Korean studio to do ALL of the animation work, considering Korea's reputation for treating the intellectual property of Japanese studios with light-fingered contempt... a methodology that lines up well with Harmony Gold's own business plan, I guess. All the same, we'd be hard pressed to justify calling it anime, because while it may be loosely based on something that was created in Japan, and a Japanese studio might've been consulted in the earliest phases of pre-production, the actual creative work was done in the US by US writers who understand neither the style nor the process. It falls into that odd category of "imitation anime"... animation produced outside of Japan that imitates many of the stylistic choices usually associated with anime. Western audiences usually have little in the way of patience for shows that try to ape the anime style, though some have had reasonable success in America, though usually only because of tie-ins to well-established franchises (DC's Teen Titans, Transformers Animated). The French seem to have had an anomalous degree of success imitating the anime style for their kid's programming (Totally Spies, W.I.T.C.H., Wakfu), but it generally ends up getting condemned by most anime-watching audiences. I expect that Harmony Gold decided that calling a spade a spade and advertising it as "imitation anime" probably wasn't going to sell the movie, so they left the "imitation" part out. The choice to refer to it as an OVA was probably because it lacks the negative connotations associated with the term "direct-to-DVD movie".

Well, the VF-2SS Valkyrie II mechanic sheet published in Macross Chronicle identifies four separate color schemes for the fighter, completely ignoring the stuff from the Moon Festival. The four color schemes mentioned are: Nexx Gilbert colors: Blue stripe Sylvie Gena colors: Red stripe Men's Battroid: Green stripe Women's Battroid: Yellow stripe In the third episode of Macross II ("Festival"), Faerie Team removes their Super Armed Packs and adopts two new color schemes for their Valkyries. Those schemes are: Sylvie Gena colors: Red with a white stripe, and a trailing red light stream (reverse of her usual colors) Faerie Team colors: Yellow with a white stripe (reverse of woman's battroid colors). Each member of the squad has their own trailing light stream color. Amy Lock's is yellow, Nastassia Toht's is blue, and Saori Kujoh's is green. Nexx Gilbert has his usual colors, though he's accompanied by a quartet of Valkyrie II's that appear to be done up in a light seafoam green (or it might just be the blue tint the footage adopts for the space scenes). It's entirely possible they were meant to be reversed-out versons of the usual men's color scheme, which would make them green with a white stripe. For reasons unknown, Nastassia was operating a VF-2SS with a red stripe (Sylvie's colors) when they switched fighters after the Mardook aborted their attempt to capture the Metal Siren, so Sylvie uses her usual colors during the following episode. Other than that, there are no other color schemes that I can think of off the top of my head.

Well, the unimaginative names aren't the fault of Chronicle's writers... they're just using the same names given for the mecha in This is Animation Special #5: Macross II. The shortage of stats is kind of lame, since I didn't exactly need to look far to find them. I'd be curious to see what they're calling that transformable mecha, since it doesn't get a name in TIAS. Didn't they have their own squadron in the games? The "Dancing Skulls" or something along those lines? Wait... the GERWALKroid from Macross II? I can't imagine what that could mean for the sheet, since they've already covered the Macross II destroids. Aside from the GERWALKroid and the VF-XX Zentradi Valkyrie, they've run out of U.N. Spacy background mecha from Macross II... what the hell could they possibly fill the sheet with? I'm gonna be extremely hacked off if they try to cram one or both of the other main VFs (VF-2JA Icarus and VA-1SS Metal Siren) onto that sheet along with the GERWALKroid and the Zentradi Valkyrie. I wonder if it's going to be a filler sheet with some of the dubiously civilian stuff like the target and camera drones, the orbital sound system satellites, and/or the VTOL jets and ambulances used for various purposes.

Nah... I'd say our dear friend Donovan is much more like the Al Sharpton of the Robotech fandom, he'll blow any criticism or insult directed towards Harmony Gold or Robotech out of proportion and make a lot of pointless noise about how Robotech fans are the victims of unfair discrimination so he can continue to pretend he's a crusader for justice instead of a cack-handed twit with a tenuous grip on reality. Heh... that'd be a step up for him. Until I pointed it out, he had no idea that the beautiful woman who he thought he was writing to was a picture gleaned from a department store catalog and that the responses he'd been receiving for six months (at seven bucks a pop) were mass-produced templates copied out by part-time workers in a modest flat somewhere in the Ukraine. I'll wager it's because he's scared that you'll all turn out to be like me... fact-driven people who don't buy his liberal bullshit (usually consisting of how the Army is full of nothing but a dumping ground for violent offenders) or his attempts to substitute his fanfic RPG for official canon.

It's not like it would be any kind of a loss for him or any of the others... the odds of him ever using it are at best minimal. About the best he could hope for would be to end up like Maverick_LSC, whose harridan of a wife treats his Robotech hobby as something shameful to be concealed from their family, friends, and neighbors. (Now if only she could extend the same treatment to her husband himself, we'd all be better off) Otherwise, the best he could do would be to follow in the footsteps of Jeebers*, whose only social interaction with women comes from trying (and failing) to flirt with the rare and plainly uninterested women on Rt.com and paying $7 a letter to write to "women" at long-distance dating services in the former Soviet Union. * Jeebers is well-known for his insistence that he's an expert on every field from acoustics to zoology, his attempts to pass off his ultra-left-wing political views as irrefutable fact, and his total inability to distinguish between official canon and the material he came up with for his "original" Robotech RPG, which is just D20 Future with many names changed. To be fair, the Warzone used to be quite good... but then Steve got fed up with the continual infighting over the political and religious discussions, so he banned everything resembling intelligent discussion. That ban was one of the first changes which heralded the start of the very short, very abrupt slide into the abyss for Robotech.com. Y'know, I've known Neptunekittie for something close to six years now, and I still have great difficulty believing she's supposed to be about ten years my senior. She used to be in the minority over there as someone who couldn't be arsed to write coherently or check her spelling, but now it's getting more and more common for Robotech fans to display the thought processes and literacy levels of a gang of dyslexic third-graders. Of course, these are adults who still cling to a Santa Claus-like belief that either Tommy Yune or Carl Macek will descend from on high and deliver the promised sequel that will make Robotech popular and successful for the first time since 1985, so it shouldn't really come as a big surprise. Back in the day, I was naive enough to believe there was probably a good reason why they couldn't be arsed to write like someone even half their age. Nowadays, I just assume that the "85ers" ate a lot of lead-based paint chips... probably from their low-quality Matchbox Robotech toys. Typical preachy Robotech fan, that one... he gets all up in arms whenever someone dares criticize Robotech or its creators for any reason, but when ill-informed crap is flung at Macross fans, it's totally okay. No, we're not putting RT fans on the back of the fan bus, we're putting the lot of them on the short bus instead.

It looks like we all came to more or less the same estimate of ~12 missiles overall for the VF-17's launcher assemblies, and I'd wager the same (or similar) figure probably applies to the VF-22 (which, I guess, would mean Guld probably launched his entire complement of micro-missiles in that rage-fueled attempt to destroy Isamu's YF-19) since it's a similarly cramped fuselage. In the animation, those micro-missile launchers are always going to be (to use Kouta Hirano's word) "Cosmoguns" which hold exactly enough ammunition to run out either when it's dramatic or right after the last enemy is dead. Eh, weren't the antipersonnel-scale spirita beam weapons used in the latter part of the manga offshoots of that technology anyway?

The answers to your questions are: Easy... he's a "true" Robotech fan. Intelligence is a rare commodity among Robotech fans, and spewing uninformed hate at the mention of Macross and anime in general comes with the territory. Yes, he has... he watched it on Veoh or bought a bootleg, I forget which. Either way, his initial reaction to the show on RobotechX was to label Alto a transvestite and condemn Bobby for being gay, then leaping to condemn the entirety of the series as "pro-gay propaganda". After being told to stop acting like an ass, he accused everyone present of being "pro-gay sympathizers" and that we were working to legislate homosexuality on everyone in the world in the near future. No. Generally speaking, only the most belligerent, immature, illiterate, ignorant, and downright revolting examples of Robotech fandom try to play the "all anime is pedophilia" card, and they usually tactfully forget that the age difference between Alto and Ranka or Hikaru and Minmay is much smaller than that between Robotech's Rick and Minmei, and that had he done anything with Minmei, Rick WOULD have been a child molester. He's going on a remark Tommy made about Harmony Gold trying to cut a deal with Big West, and being rebuffed. (Reportedly Harmony Gold basically just wanted to rub it in that any future Macross licenses have to go through them because of the trademark and hope that Big West'd cave) That's the other card the most ignorant of their number play... the "Macross is ripping off show X" card. Usually it's a very general observation on par with "well they both have spaceships" or "they both have giant robots that transform into jets" or other generic malarkey along those lines. A lot of them try accusing Macross of copying Gundam as though the relationship between the two shows wasn't common knowledge. Might just be the crappy quality of the bootleg he bought since he doesn't have a computer and has to do all of his posting from a video game console. The guy's a first-class moron who spent his first few weeks over on RT.com under his previous name of "Wraith_knight" (he made a clone account to get away from all the hate he provoked) trying to say Macross wasn't a more prolific franchise than Robotech because he wasn't aware of any of the Macross shows after DYRL... he later tried to claim that wasn't true and he was just "testing" me, but anybody and their dog could see it was bullshit.

It wasn't always thus... back before Maverick and MEMO decided they were experts on everything from the legal disputes over Macross to the inner workings of Warner Bros and adopted their current policy of banning anyone who pointed out their all-too-obvious bullshit there used to be a small but vocal community within the greater Robotech.com community made up of people who knew what they were talking about and weren't above little things like doing research. Unfortunately, by their very nature the members of that little community ended up as the main opposition to the relentless campaign of bullshit, misdirection, and fraud being perpetrated against the fanbase by pathological liars and wanna-be insiders MEMO1DOMINION and Maverick_LSC. Now that the deadly duo of dangerous dimwits (with added alliterative appeal) have managed to ban almost everyone who dared to disagree with their pants-on-head imbecilic assertions, the Robotech.com community has found itself shorn of its first, last, and only line of defense against the armies of ignorant twats who make up the majority of the site's population these days. Without that small cadre of experts running around behind the lines, there's no way for anyone to get a straight answer anymore. Now even simple questions like "how big was the SDF-1" are fodder for debates that run for hundreds of posts, and there're half a dozen different threads debating the whereabouts and size of the nonexistent SDF-2.

Not really, no... I think "horrific" and "downright disgusting" would probably be better words to describe a nightmare scenario like that. Of course, Tommy would probably poo out a kidney trying to find a way to fit Macross Zero into the his rebooted Robotech continuity (the "Yune-iverse"), since that'd require scrapping most of the new Wildstorm comics to accommodate the new origins of the VF-1, effectively losing much of the continuity reboot material in the process.

Didn't we already get some of that in the Glossary Sheets? I know they covered a few of the characters from the VF-X and/or VF-X 2 game.

Nah, the well hasn't dried up completely... since they still haven't reissued the Maia Sterling VF/A-6ZX Shadow fighter MPC that was recalled by the manufacturer, they'll probably reissue that and milk their Alpha and Beta for a while yet. I'd say at the very least we can expect a Marcus Rush VF/A-6IX MPC and obviously black Beta fighters for both, and at least one "Super Shadow Fighter" with the corresponding "Synchro Beta" under some character's name (probably Marcus and Alex). After that, they can still turn around and shake down Southern Cross for some MPC designs, or maybe start in with masterpiece collection editions of the enemy mecha. They've got enough crap to keep their merchandising limping along for a while yet. Whether this latest period of inactivity during the all-important 25th Anniversary will reflect poorly on them in the eyes of their investors... it's a given they don't have anything special for this occasion.

For Harmony Gold, failure's not a some-of-the-time thing it's an all-the-time thing. (Now read that back in a Phil Ken Sebben voice) At this point, pretty much everything Robotech is one big Chinese fire drill intended to simulate signs of life for the benefit of the casual observer and the optimistic fan. Nothing will actually come of the things they do, it's just pointless motion and noise to keep their hands busy so the head office doesn't decide that they're dead weight and cut them loose. It depends what you count as actual news... the announcement of the project's existence and the working name "Shadow Rising" date back to '07, right after the DVD release of the Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles movie. Since that point, the only real news we've had about it has been the announcement (and subsequent retraction) that the project was on hiatus by Kevin McKeever in either late May or early June '08, and Tommy Yune's Spring '09 correction that the movie IS in fact on hold, so Harmony Gold can twiddle their collective thumbs and wait for Warner Brothers and the live-action movie to improve the franchise's prospects in the eyes of its potential investors. Other than that, there was reportedly a brief little "teaser trailer" which was shown at conventions and had turned out to be made from recycled Shadow Chronicles footage.

And without covering half the crap I was hoping it would... You say that like it's a bad thing... Well, not exactly the most interesting assortment, what must be our fourth New Macross-class ship A sheet by now, one of the ugliest Valkyries in all of Macross, and more misc. background rubbish. It's really kind of depressing that with ten issues to go, we're still getting rather a lot of filler while some of the more interesting designs languish without having even received an A sheet yet. Okay, Macross 7-era Max Jenius and Exsedol Folmo I can live with... this isn't too bad. They're some of the only sane characters in the show. I wonder if they'll play the TV series angle with this one, or if they're going to use the DYRLized one we catch snippets of in Macross 7. Okay, so we're gonna get something about the in-universe status of DYRL... there's my reason to buy this issue. Viper will be fairly happy then...