-
Posts
12896 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Gallery
Everything posted by Seto Kaiba
-
Even if the only piece of information we'd gotten were just that tiny tidbit, we'd still have gotten more from Macross Frontier's creators than Robotech fans have gotten from Harmony Gold about their latest abortion that may or may not actually be in production. Hell, they even made more of an effort with Shadow Chronicles, though even that was just three or four pieces of concept art, mostly for minor characters, and one tiny picture barely bigger than a postage stamp that depicted a fighter design they didn't even use. Are you still having difficulty seeing the difference here? I can explain in more depth if you are. No, it was just a polite suggestion... I would, after all, be quite concerned if this was making you uncomfortable, and thus suggested an alternate venue where factually unsound defenses of Robotech would be welcomed with open arms.
-
Hey... azrael is secretly Elmo Kridanik! Just think of it as "scalable marketing". The amount of effort and thought they put into their generally futile attempts to get someone to care about what they're doing nowadays seems to be inversely proportional to the size and desperation level of the fanbase. Now that they've whittled the fanbase down to almost nothing and ensured that those who are left are both devoted to the franchise no matter what and starved for new content, they know they can get by with the bare minimum amount of effort... a scrap of artwork and a cardboard box full of surplus merchandise. No no no... "protoculture" particles. After all, the fans'll believe anything so long as you say protoculture is at the bottom of it. It's so ill-defined that there's no problem with doing that either... Promoted with sketches, pre-production artwork, and frank discussion about what they were doing with the series... and it was a hell of a lot more than just one piece of art. The creators of Macross Frontier put a fair bit out there to stir up interest in their new show, whereas Robotech's "creators" can do no more than toss out a badly drawn picture of a Mospeada character and say "We have something that might be coming in 2011 but we're not allowed to show you anything relevant to it or even actually tell you anything about it". Can you see where this might be different? If not, then you might be more at home over on Robotech.com.
-
Indeed they did... very few of the designs Ippei Kuri created for the failed Robotech II: the Sentinels series were updated and reused in Shadow Chronicles, though Breetai's bucket was one they opted to keep. Like the other Macross holdovers, he appeared only briefly and was abruptly disposed of. The only things that really changed when he was updated was he's got the same spandex-clad superhero thing going on that all the other characters do, and his old uniform was replaced by the standard RTSC jumpsuit.
-
Two movies, the first of which came out last november, you can find more in the relevant news thread.
-
Now there's a desire I'll never be able to understand... I always found the designs that Tatsunoko helped create for Robotech II: the Sentinels appallingly ugly, and the Invid inorganics were at the top of the list. From a purely technical standpoint, there was nothing wrong with most of the attempts to revive Robotech except that they had the overall poor quality one would expect of a film produced on a shoestring budget by incompetent idiots. The bulk of the glaringly awful stuff was in the story, and the designs for the characters and mecha. Sure, the Shadow Chronicles movie was free of bucket-wearing Breetais, but the story arc itself is not. The aforementioned blue-skinned buckethead does show up in Prelude, where he's promptly killed off in an exercise intended to get as many leftover Macross characters out of the picture as possible. Exedore shows up and dies too, though he now looks like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons with slightly longer hair.
-
On a generally unrelated note, the handful of active members left on Robotech.com are now starting to spazz out because Harmony Gold added a tiny and dim "Coming Soon" graphic to the right of Shadow Chronicles on the series navigation bar.
-
Sure, I can try... though it's not something that was ever explained very thoroughly, so I'm resorting to skimming Macross Chronicle WorldGuide sheet 08B, which has a little bit about the Vajra maturation process. The chart provided shows roughly eight phases in the Vajra lifecycle... or at least the life cycle leading up to the khaki-colored hammerhead Vajra drones that seem to make up the bulk of the swarm. The chart doesn't cover how the big red ones, queens, or ships grow and develop. In the diagram, the Vajra lifecycle is depicted as starting with the queen laying lots of eggs in a hive, which we saw going on in Macross Frontier ep.13. From there, they hatch into those green legless squirrels like Ai-Kun, which eventually grow into the big version that looks kinda like an overlarge green hooded cobra (the kind that Ai-kun was when he tackled Ranka right before she left Island-1 with Brera). They then go into some phase I don't recall seeing that looks like a chrysalis, before becoming what Ai-kun was at the end of the series... a creature that looks like a miniature organic Big Zam with antennae. From there, they mature to the slightly larger versions of that form with the top-mounted beam gun (like the ones that were swarming all over the Islands and killed Michael Blanc), and then from there they grow into the big hammerhead ones we saw in the very first episode. If anyone cares to weigh in with an actual translation of the sheet, feel free... it's in Macross Chronicle issue #49 (pp23-24).
-
Granted, many do... but merely acknowledging that the characters and set pieces that they so ardently molest are not of their own creation is not the same thing as showing respect for the original work. In virtually all cases, it's nothing more than a simple disclaimer intended to keep the lawyers away, inserted simply out of habit or because the website on which the fan-fiction is hosted requires it to ensure their asses are covered. Of course, if fan-fiction writers actually respected the integrity of the original work, we wouldn't have things like Mary Sues and author-insert fan-fiction, or at least they wouldn't be as common. Not always... and, of course, there are plenty of sites that use fan-fiction hosting to help keep their operating expenses down and/or turn a profit via banner ads and various stats-tracking tools. Again, the not-for-profit nature of most fan-fiction still really boils down to keeping the rights-holder's lawyers off the fan-fiction writer's back. And you'll never hear me say otherwise... though, as I said, addressing Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles as the first real sequel to Robotech's TV series is done on the grounds that, unlike all the attempts that preceded it, Shadow Chronicles was completed and released according to plan. Subjective judgments of quality and the show's dubious claims of originality are immaterial in the face of the fact that it's the only Robotech to ever be finished and released normally. Of course, once we delve into the realm of the actual content and it immediately becomes evident that the movie is a godawful mess shat out by a clique of "writers" who ought to be forbidden near a writing implement again for the rest of their natural lives. That it was "inspired" (ripped off from) the reimagined Battlestar Galactica and made up of characters and set pieces shamelessly poached from Robotech II: the Sentinels certainly does nothing to make it an attractive option for the prospective viewer, but you'd have a hard (impossible) time finding a Robotech sequel that isn't a crime against cinema or at the very least painful and nauseating to watch.
-
I'd be inclined to agree with what you have to say, though I wouldn't be quite so hasty as to lay the blame for EVERY obstacle the Robotech franchise has encountered at Harmony Gold's door. All the same, there's no denying that the overwhelming majority of the problems besetting the Robotech franchise are the result of their ineptitude and arrogance. The heart of their problem will always be beyond their control. That the show itself is composed of source material they don't own is, above all other concerns, going to limit the potential avenues for continuing the series dramatically. Everything else that's standing in their way is the result of a set of business practices that are practically an itemized list of things no business should ever do, and thus is their own fault. Now, you raise a valid point here... it's a question of how you define "success". By any rational standard, Robotech II: the Sentinels was a failure. The final product we got wasn't what they'd intended to make. It was hastily slapped together by Harmony Gold as a means of salvaging what they could from the project as it came crashing down around their ears, put out to recoup the losses incurred by the project's failure. Now, whether or not you want to call Harmony Gold's unwillingness to continue the story with a sequel a failure for the story arc as a whole, the fact remains that, for better or worse, the Shadow Chronicles movie was the result of a project that was carried all the way through to completion and released. It was, in the most basic terms, a success, whereas Sentinels was a failure. Putting aside subjective judgments of the content, there's a world of difference between kicking a literal abortion out the door and releasing a completed product. Not sure about the higher production standards... even for its day Sentinels was animated rather poorly. Just as with Shadow Chronicles, they definitely did NOT get their studio's first string animators. And the hilarious thing is that Yune has still achieved far more in his brief tenure as creative director than Macek did in something like fifteen years.
-
Y'know... that completely slipped by me until you pointed it out. It would be pretty easy to read that as a subtle dig at what Tommy's done with Robotech since he was given the post of creative director back in 2001. True, he did what Macek couldn't and actually managed to get Robotech's first animated sequel successfully released, but it's no stretch at all to call it a legitimized piece of Sentinels fan-fiction, since the entire movie is made from characters and set pieces poached without shame from both the Sentinels TV series materials and the comic books. Now that's a dubious statement... especially given that every time Harmony Gold has put up a poll about what saga is the favorite, the result is inevitably the Macross Saga by an enormous margin. What the Robotech fans want, as anyone who's interacted with them as much as I have can tell you, is for future Robotech shows to basically be Macross in everything but name. They want the continuing adventures of Rick and Lisa Hunter, of Max and Miriya Sterling, and the other mooks who survived the end of the Macross Saga. They've been dangling Rick Hunter out there like a particularly grizzled carrot to get people interested in the Shadow Chronicles movie. With regard to the Macross sequels, the Robotech fans largely don't want 'em because they've been told by Harmony Gold that they're inferior to Robotech, and are blinded by nostalgia, or just find something offensive about Japanese cultural references in the shows. They want more comfortably Americanized shows in the same vein as Macross, but under the Robotech name. Whereas Macross fans are generally operating in the realm of "I like the sequels, except (NAME)", where (NAME) almost invariably is either Macross II or Macross 7. Never... if memory serves, Rebecca Forstadt said on her blog that she was rather ashamed of the quality of her vocal performance in Robotech and that even when they were originally recording her singing she knew she was bad at it... and that they had to get her a bit buzzed before she could record her songs.
-
Of course... that poor cobra bit into him and discovered to its peril that his body was made up of 70% bullsh*t instead of water like a normal person's. Let's not unintentionally perpetuate the lie by calling it "Carl's vision". It was, after all, a poorly coordinated effort done entirely at the insistence of the network and their toy partner. None of the important creative decisions in Robotech were made by the hack we knew as Carl Macek, they all occurred far, FAR above his head. So speaks a foolish fellow who doesn't understand the industry he works in... typical of a Robotech staffer. Time and time again, the anime industry's consumers have made it very clear that they want a viewing experience as close to what the original Japanese audience got as is possible. That's why shows like Robotech are considered by the majority to be substandard and the names of the companies that make them are watchwords for failure and incompetence. Can you blame them? It's practically a thrown gauntlet as far as the integrity of the author's work is concerned. To change parts of the author's vision and then claim the result still reflects the original author's intent, or to claim that the rewrite is a superior work to the original as Macek did is the very height of arrogance, and could only be taken as an insult by those responsible for the original. Even after it's canceled, they'll still be saying that... They also did a lot of hard drinking, if some of the earlier VA and writer interviews are to be believed... due in no small measure to there being a bar in close proximity to the studio. Said bar apparently played a large role in getting Rebecca Forstadt liquored up enough to record Minmei's singing bits. Sure you can... the internet produces thousands of talentless fan-fiction writers every year, many of whom have no respect whatsoever for the works they bastardize. The lot of them are already operating on Macek's level in terms of both creativity (or rather, the lack thereof) and artistic integrity. At the end of the day, Robotech is nothing more than a badly written piece of Macross-Southern Cross-Mospeada crossover fan-fiction granted partial legitimacy via a licensing agreement. The man couldn't save his own company, or even his own do-nothing job at Harmony Gold... how could a man like that possibly save the entire industry he spent his career failing in?
-
Wow... these people are clearly earlobe-deep in denial about the fact that Robotech had pretty much no significant impact on the anime industry and just a 25 year old anachronism that some extremely thick real estate company just won't let go of. This whole "Robotech was responsible for creating the American anime industry" line is just more bullshit Macek started back in the 90s to make himself out to be the Gene Roddenberry of anime. The man was a habitual liar, prone to telling his audience anything they wanted to hear once he thought he could make himself famous by painting himself as anime's great messiah. Actually, it's quite easy to understand why these people keep insisting that Carl Macek somehow single-handedly created the entire American anime industry. The elaborate facade of deceptions they've built around Macek's role in the formation of the industry are part of the web of lies that keep the self-deluded Robotech fans thinking that Robotech was an important, influential show ahead of its time instead of just another squirt in the crowd that nobody gave a toss about even in 1985. If they don't push aside the contributions of every person and show that came before (and after, for that matter) then the illusion that Robotech actually mattered at one point quickly falls apart. Faulty assumptions, of course... but an essential part of the illusion that has kept them in jobs despite having accomplished less in 25 years than Studio Nue accomplishes in six months. Unless they can convince people that Robotech mattered at some point and that it could matter again, there's no reason for anyone to pay attention to it. In several of his later interviews, after he'd gotten it into his head that he was a creative genius fit to rival George Lucas or Gene Roddenberry, Carl Macek tried to claim that even the creators of Macross felt that Robotech was far superior to their own work, and even that they were striving to imitate Robotech in future sequels by placing reduced emphasis on music. A statement about as far from the truth as it's possible to get, and a lie which depends entirely on keeping Robotech fans completely ignorant of Macross. That's a damn lie... we all know Al Gore created the internet. Don't forget Tatsunoko Productions, Studio Nue, and Big West... according to Macek they're all such big Robotech fans that they wanted to imitate Robotech when they made more Macross shows.
-
Now, what I found amusing about the non-video coverage of the event that I've seen via their Facebook pages and Twitter was that while Harmony Gold was gushing about how the panel's line was huge, the room itself was only about 2/3 full during the presentation, putting a pretty sizable dent in their bragging rights. From the pictures I've seen on Robotech.com, it looks like, for all the protesting about the size of the line, the RT panel's turnout was actually lower than last year's. For me, just the thought of being in the same room with a creepy, obsessive idiot like MEMO creeps me right the hell out. Having to watch him hero-worship Tommy Yune from the audience would probably send me scurrying to the nearest trash can to throw up. And there we have it, kiddies... substituting endless lamenting over Macek's death for providing actual content, just as predicted. I wonder how long it'll be before they blame the collapse of the "new" feature or Shadow Rising on his untimely death. So, business as usual... Shadow Rising is still on indefinite hiatus while they wait for someone with actual talent to fix the mess that ham-handed hacks they've had for creative directors and licensees made. Yep, business as usual... all hype, no substance. Rest in peace, Carl Macek... your legacy of lies and wild exaggerations will live for as long as Harmony Gold thinks they can make a buck off Robotech.
-
Someone wanna summarize the bullshit-a-thon for us so those of us with no patience for watching Tommy Yune stammer and pretend he isn't wildly incompetent?
-
--V No such luck, I'm afraid... since all things Robotech tend to fly right under the general public's radar, and the Robotech: Invasion videogame was rather unpopular even among Robotech fans, it's unlikely that you'll find a decent walkthrough for the game on any mainstream gaming site. Your best bet is probably to dig up an archived copy of RobotechResearch's coverage using the Internet Wayback Machine and other sites like it to see what can be recovered that way. When I checked the Wayback machine, the most recent archival copy of the walkthroughs was made on 14 July 2008, and had complete walkthroughs for only the first seven missions of the game.
-
Character Art Appreciation Thread III
Seto Kaiba replied to Vepariga's topic in Movies and TV Series
It looks like a trace of a page from Mikimoto's Macross: the First. If you wanna see that exact same scene drawn by Mikimoto himself, it's in Macross: the First Vol.1. -
Or it could just as easily be meaningless window-dressing drawn by Tommy to show in lieu of actual content. After all, it's been his standard practice for years to toss up a new piece of art every few months when the griping about having nothing new gets too loud. So, imagine the most logical scenario? Gotcha. Given Harmony Gold's track record with the franchise over these past 25 years, it was to be expected that Robotech's big 25th anniversary bash would end up being all hype and no substance. Who'd criticize you for that? Most, if not all, of the VAs who worked on Robotech 25 years ago have gone on to do good work on a variety of good shows. The only time that working on one show is enough to mark you for life and ruin your career is if that show is Star Trek or Star Wars. The sane fans aren't bad people, they're just overly nostalgic or have bad taste. So, business as usual... and they're already implicitly using Carl's death as an excuse for having nothing new to show for 25 years of faffing about.
-
Exactly... this latest announcement that an unspecified Robotech "production" is going to be released in 2011 smacks of a knee-jerk attempt to convince the fandom their failure to follow up on the "success" of Shadow Chronicles isn't going to be the start of another slide into inactivity and failure like Sentinels and RT3K were. Yes, the statement that Harmony Gold put Shadow Rising on hold while they waited for Warner Bros to raise the franchise's image in the eyes of potential investors came from the mouth of Tommy Yune. McKeever was the one who initially said it was on hiatus, and then came back to say that hiatus doesn't mean what general convention and common sense say it means. Richard Epcar confirmed the movie was on indefinite hiatus, and he also said that resumption of work was on a "don't call us, we'll call you" basis. As to why this latest announcement has come dribbling out of the corner of McKeever's mouth instead of from someone who actually matters, who cares? With a track record like Harmony Gold's, it'll either be a pathetic joke that only the most deluded of die-hard fans will try to defend, or it'll be canceled as a money pit and quietly ignored while Robotech fans pretend it was a blockbuster epic in the making that fell victim to circumstance, like they're presently trying to do with Robotech 3000. Yeah, you'd expect that would be a pretty big news item, but there's absolutely nothing to indicate that anything of value actually happened. I'm unsurprised that nothing has been posted in the AX thread on Robotech.com, since that particular hive of scum and villainy is all but dead these days. Our predictions of only a few months previous have come true in a most startling way, with the site's traffic having dropped off to almost nothing thanks to Maverick and MEMO banning or otherwise driving away anyone who was a long-time contributor or even remotely inclined to actually discuss Robotech itself. Whatever it is, it's almost certainly by Toynami, so it's probably George Sohn's turds in the box instead.
-
Ooo! I cracked the code! The new production is a new Microsoft PowerPoint slideshow to replace the one they've been using non-stop since 2006! No, I'm pretty sure the fluid that filled my mouth when I saw a somewhat battered looking cardboard box with the Southern Cross Army crest on it was vomit, not saliva. Hey, maybe now that Toynami's managed to reduce interest in the masterpiece collection from a max of 15,000 unit to a mere 5,000, they're going to cut it still further and do a Masterpiece Hovertank! They couldn't sell outta those if they limited the run to 20 units.
-
Now there's something I hadn't considered... maybe they DID license that cheap Chinese knockoff of Macross and Gundam as some of their fans were hoping.
-
Good grief, are they still trying to get people to buy that tired old line? It's pissing into the wind, to be sure. It's a choice between taking that at face value and being all surprised when 2011 rolls around and they have nothing to show for it, or going with the line that Tommy let slip and the VAs confirmed... that the movie's on hold while Harmony Gold waits for Warner's live-action movie to fix the franchise's poor reputation. They'd initially promised they'd release Shadow Rising in 2009, and see what happened to that. No, this is almost certainly just more noise about Shadow Rising that will likely amount to nothing. I'd rate the chances of it being another new edition of the Shadow Chronicles movie much higher than it being something actually new. Maybe Warner and Maguire Entertainment finally gave up and decided to do Robotech's live-action movie as an shoestring budget direct-to-DVD movie like Starship Troopers 2.
-
The Last Airbender - Thoughts?
Seto Kaiba replied to Mechamaniac's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Now, before I begin posting my thoughts about The Last Airbender, I would like to first qualify my statements by saying that I'm not a fan of Nickelodeon's Avatar: the Last Airbender cartoon. In fact, the sum total of my exposure to the characters and setting consist of maybe three minutes of animation witnessed while channel surfing, and the revolting shipping fanart posted on /co/. As such, I'm writing from the viewpoint of the outsider, a casual viewer going into the movie knowing nothing of the mythos or the story of the fantasy universe. I can't exactly say I was an objective outsider, since I expected the movie to be over-hyped rubbish as soon as I heard our good friend Mister M. Night Alphabetsoup was involved. That said, take it away... myself. Oh god... where to begin? I'd heard some things about the movie in chatroom last night, and the impression I'd gotten was that I was in for another so-bad-it's-funny Wire-Fu action flick with pretentions to being a serious fantasy story. Since I already had a half-day at the office for various reasons, I phoned my girlfriend up and dragged her along to the cinema so we could both catch a cheap laugh and she'd stop complaining I never take her anywhere. Now, without giving away any spoilers that might offend those who actually want to see our boy M. Night's latest unintentionally hilarious train wreck, the best I can say for the story is that it's BAD. I get the feeling that M. Night sat down with a screenplay summary of the TV series and said something to the effect of "Woah, poo! There's too much stuff here to make a two hour movie!" and then, in the misguided belief that he's some kind of genius, resolved to make it all fit anyway. The fruit of his labors is something I can't help but compare to Frankenstein's monster. It's a shambling mess composed of salvaged parts from something that was once whole and wholesome. A lurching abomination that very plainly should not be. The only suitable analogy I can think of to describe the way this movie vomits huge quantities of exposition at the horrified viewer is to say that the experience is like trying to fill a teacup with a firehose. There's just SO MUCH coming SO FAST that there's just no way for the audience to take it all in. Rather than gradually build up the universe's mythos over the course of a few installments, Shamalamadingdog resolved not to gamble on a sequel being made, and crammed three movies worth of exposition into an hour and forty-five minutes. The young actors are clearly NOT up to the task of vomiting out these huge torrents of exposition, and it all comes across rather flat and emotionless, like the whole movie's being performed by the guys who shout line prompts from offstage instead of the actual actors. The screenplay itself feels like it was written by someone who'd only ever read about the show's story on Wikipedia, since scene changes occur with an almost audible "clunk", and many scenes meant to be emotional just come off as being narm. The movie's devoid of actual emotion, and as a result even the obviously crowbarred-in romance subplot feels almost we're watching aliens try to understand human behavior by imitating scenes they saw on TV. To add to the movie's woes, the CG effects used to display the "bending", the universe's magic du jour, are laughably bad... even amateurish. After about an hour or so of seemingly random crap happening in succession, I started to get the distinct impression the movie was desperately rummaging around to find something that would make it live up to its pretentious claims of being an epic fantasy story. The gleeful idiocy of the cast and seemingly arbitrary and pointless events that make up most of the story reduce M. Night Shamwow's "serious business" fantasy story to unintentional comedy in short order. The dialogue jumps back and forth between "Here, let me state the obvious" and parroting the same line over and over again, almost as though it's a cue to change scenes. If we were to take this at face value, M. Night is either a talentless berk or he bought a gradeschooler's creative writing assignment after it earned a "VERY POOR, SEE ME AFTER CLASS" from the teacher. There's a lot of stuff that I'd like to criticize about the setting itself, but I can't be sure that it wasn't that way originally and M. Night just managed to make it worse in his adaptation. Particularly the six-legged flying water buffalo or whatever the hell that thing is, Ang's (sp?) glowing blue buzz cut, and the nagging feeling that all of these white people are probably supposed to have been played by Asians to go with the faux-Chinese setting. If this wasn't a film clearly intended to be taken seriously, I would be lauding M. Night for an excellent work of ironic parody of generic fantasy fiction and wire-fu movies. In place of that, all I can say is that The Last Airbender feels like the result of an attempt to combine the impenetrable depth of Lord of the Rings with the same sort of quirky-yet-dark style of the later Harry Potter movies on a faux-Chinese backdrop right out of Disney's Mulan. It's not a good movie by any means. It's not even a so-bad-it's-funny movie. It's just all bad, all the time. The sort of movie where you leave the theater wondering why you just paid eight bucks to be confused by a strange Indian man. -
It's not just you... part of the reason I decided not to renew my account when it came up for renewal a few months ago was the steady decline in the quality of their service. They seem to have been cutting back for a while now. I guess the prevalence of ad-blockers and rising bandwidth usage finally started to get to them. I can't say you'll have any better luck with their competitors, since I've heard a lot of noise about MegaUpload's pop-up ad windows and the banner ads on MediaFire being detected as malware by several antivirus programs.
-
Eh... while I would be interested in seeing a new animated Macross series based on Macross: the First, or at least its design aesthetic (which appears to be a merger of Mikimoto's earlier work on Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Macross: Do You Remember Love?, and the Macross 2036), I'd rather it wasn't a reboot. If they absolutely HAVE to treat it as the start of something entirely new for Macross, I would rather they used it as the basis of a new alternate universe, in much the same way Gundam has done over the years. It's not like having the show set partly (or fully) in the past is going to hurt the integrity of the narrative. Obviously the fact that the events depicted in Macross: the First are set in what is, from our perspective, last year hasn't hurt the book any. Likewise, having major plot-critical events occur in the past (from a modern-day perspective) hasn't hurt Star Trek. Star Trek II: the Wrath of Khan is every bit enjoyable after 1993 as it was before, despite the fact that we didn't have world war against an army of genetically engineered supermen that year. Of course, we can always cheat like Kawamori did and view the whole thing as fictionalized versions of real events within the universe, in which case any contradictions or conflicts or any issues springing from having an oddly anachronistic future are all gravy since it's all down to dramatic license on the part of that future TV show's creators.
-
Indeed... and it would be better for both parties to just let it die quietly and never do business with each other again. True, their initial run of Macross Saga-based Masterpiece Collection toys sold okay during the brief resurgence of interest in Robotech that followed the opening of Robotech.com in 2001, but interest in the toy line dropped off as soon as they'd finished covering the Macross Saga. Once they'd exhausted that, most fans no longer had a reason to care. The way Toynami handled the recall of the Maia Sterling VF/A-6ZX killed what was left of the fanbase's interest in the toy by reissuing it with an entirely different set of severe defects after promising not to build the reissue in the same factory and then going back on their word.