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*wince* Oh gods no... please no... at least they should wait a few more titles before they throw out another edition. My poor bookshelves can't take the strain!
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Yes, you are... the series chronology that fills in most of the Macross II backstory was never made completely available in the US thanks to the Turbografx-16 failing to penetrate the video game market here, and the kind of scattershot hobby magazine market. There were a number of major Zentradi conflicts in the Macross II backstory between the end of the first space war and the Mardook invasion. The big ones were in 2036 (Macross 2036), 2037 (Macross: Eternal Love Song), and 2054 (mentioned only). The 2054 Zentradi invasion of the Sol system was stopped dead at Pluto's orbit by a UN Spacy defense perimeters, but it took quite a toll on the fleet... ending with the UN Spacy capturing a factory satellite.
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Macross 35 production Committee project signing activities
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Bloody hell, you're right! Well, I guess some things never change.- 14 replies
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Macross 35 production Committee project signing activities
Seto Kaiba replied to Mari-ja's topic in Movies and TV Series
Actually, it looks like I misread it when I mentioned it to Mr March... the Japanese version of the petition makes as little sense as the badly fractured Babelfish English we got here, but I got the essence of it right the first time. The gist of it appears to be that the poster wants the 35th Anniversary series to have a new Macross 7 story about Basara, set four years after Dynamite 7 and involving around Basara getting invited to a music festival on Earth, which turns out to be a trap by the Protodeviln that involves Minmay somehow. All in all, the whole idea sounds surpassingly awful... the kind of thing I'm glad Kawamori would never do, and something I would need to be reincarnated as a Hindu deity to have enough thumbs to show my disapproval of.- 14 replies
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I'll second that emotion.
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To be fair, the VF-2JA probably deserved to get the shaft... it's so frigging minor even though it's an unconventional and interesting design. It'd be like them giving a cover to any of the other one-scene wonders like that messenger plane from Macross Galaxy, or the construction Valkyrie from Macross 7. Still, nice to see a nice big version of the Metal Siren painting...
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No, I don't think I am... I think you're making a conclusion there's a connection when there's no evidence any exists. Also, VF-4? I thought your point of inquiry was the VF-X3 Star Crusader from Macross: Remember Me. We know roughly when Kawamori designed the VF-X3 Star Crusader... because it's stylistically almost identical to work he was doing for BattleTech's JP release, which was done at the same time he was developing the other original VFs that went into the FamilySoft Macross game series. Late 1992, early 1993. We can point to exact dates for when some of the other VFs from those games had their line art done... the Stampede Valkyrie was November 1992, for a game that debuted about a year later in 1993. The rough version of the finished VF-4 was dated March 1995... so that's not a likely inspiration either, though he'd roughed out some stuff regarding battroid appearance that Ohata and Fujita either didn't have or didn't care for, because their VF-4 from the Macross: Eternal Love Song game looked nothing like it. Without a time machine? Not likely. Remember, Studio Nue wasn't involved in the development of Macross II, so it's unlikely the concept work of Studio Nue's staff would've been available to the Macross II creators. Likewise, the original VFs designed to be included in the FamilySoft games weren't finished until November 1992 according to the dates on the art in Kawamori's Macross Design Works book, and that's a year after the VF-XS Valkyrie II's art was printed in Animage, and the same month the final (6th) episode of Macross II was released... by which point that ship had SAILED.
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By "published in", I literally mean the art was published in a print resource... in this case, it was part of a Macross II teaser article in the hobby magazine Animage, in the #11 issue for 1991. I wouldn't really call it a "line art compendium", and the VF-XS was not printed in any Macross II art book, but the magazine was definitely publicly available for a whopping 600 yen! (There's a copy on eBay for ten bucks right now.)
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Heh... nice. Some of my buddies are gonna be thrilled there's been some love for the Metal Siren.
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Er... if I had to guess, I'd say the maintenance crew is probably responsible for painting the heraldry and markings of the units whose Valkyries they're responsible for. Most of the VFs in Macross seem to have pretty standardized markings, and custom paintjobs seem to be something only "elite" units like Skull Squadron do. If I had to guess, I'd say custom paint is probably either something restricted to the elite (as a "perk") or something the pilots have to do themselves. I can't imagine they'd be able to put in a work order for the kind of explicit decoration we've seen in books like the Macross Model Hobby Handbook and on Canaria's VB-6 and Maruyama's VF-171EX in Macross Frontier... unless the NUNS has the most lenient sexual harassment policy in the history of the galaxy.
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No, that's all me bro... just ask MEMO. I can't believe we've ended up with another thread devoted to "Look at what [Harmony Gold/Robotech fans] did this time, aren't they stupid?". Thought we'd got past this nonsense. The idiots thrive on the attention, deny it to them and the problem'll go away.
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Yeah... looking at the air date charts, the Macross Plus OVA got its second episode a few days before Macross 7 episode 12 went to air. Must've been some REAL mood whiplash going back and forth between Macross Plus's more serious tone and Macross 7 when Macross Plus episode 2. Just goes to show Kawamori and company's propensity for doing the unexpected and mixing it up. I couldn't begin to guess what we're going to get when the new series airs, but it'll be a fun ride for sure.
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Technically, yes... but Macross Plus preceded Macross 7 in release order by what, about two months? (August vs. October?) That'd be a hell of a case of mood whiplash for someone going from Macross Plus episode 1 to Macross 7 episode 1.
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Er... gents, isn't it a bit early to be boldly proclaiming what the next Macross series will and won't include? To be, trying to predict what Studio Nue will do with the next Macross series is a bit of a trick, since one thing Macross has made a habit of is dramatically mixing it up. They followed Macross Plus, one of the most serious and straightforward titles in the metaseries, with Macross 7... a hotblooded, over-the-top spectacle where a guitarist fights space demons with the power of rock. I don't see any point in forming convoluted expectations of the series when Kawamori and co. will almost certainly blindside us with something else entirely. As I see it, why look a gift horse in the mouth? We're getting a new Macross series, and I doubt it'll disappoint no matter where Kawamori and company take it.
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's part of a retrofit that was started on the Macross with the intention of bringing her up to spec with the mass-production Macross class ships (like the ill-fated Million Star), with the intention of returning her to active service with the fleet. The retrofit project was abandoned after another postwar influx of new overtechnology effectively rendered the upgrades obsolete. (Exactly which war was the one that ended the project, they don't say... the most likely candidate was the May-December 2054 war.)
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No official word on that, AFAIK... but Macross II's creators stopped just short of bluntly declaring the Mardook to be a second big group of Protoculture who fled the collapse of their civilization to start over, like the ones who built the Altira in DYRL?, so it might have been the original Meltrandi systems on the Macross responding to her genome. According to Macross II's director, Ken'ichi Yatagai, the reason for that is that the Macross's alien early warning systems are still active, so the cannon occasionally discharges if it detects hostiles.
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Yes... the Takachihof VC-079 Civilian Valkyrie, fighter and GERWALK modes only. In-continuity, it was actually the second non-military VF developed by the Takachihof group. SNN's is a modestly customized version kitted out with various camera systems, while the stock model is used for everything from a leisure craft to transportation to what amounts to a postwar DNR. Yep! The lucky survivors were the ones who were conveniently about six kilometers underground in Grand Cannon I (Alaska), Grand Cannon III (Africa) and Grand Cannon V (South America). Between the people who survived thanks to an underground hidey-hole and the people who survived thanks to being in orbital space colonies and on the moon, the survivors numbered a rough 1 million souls. That number was subsequently beefed up with mass cloning of humans that began about three months after the war (May 2010).
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VF-4S Lightning III Miriya Jenius version anyone?
Seto Kaiba replied to YF-29 Durandal's topic in Toys
But the -J type of the VF-1S was also a partial upgrade over the stock unit... so that makes no sense. "In your mind" and "In actuality" may not necessarily be the same thing. In this case, definitely not... -S variants being issued to "elite" pilots is a comparative rarity, not the rule. The toy companies are gonna make toys based on designs that already exist, for the most part, so if they were gonna do a Milia VF-4 it'd be her VF-4G from Macross M3, which is still damn nice. Any love for the VF-4 from the toy companies is a good thing. -
VF-4S Lightning III Miriya Jenius version anyone?
Seto Kaiba replied to YF-29 Durandal's topic in Toys
Less than you'd think, actually... the majority of VFs don't indulge in that particular practice, both in terms of the number of VF models and the total number of VFs out there in-universe. The VF-1 is the only one of the UN Spacy's main variable fighters in Macross's main timeline that actually indulged in that practice. The VF-22S doesn't fit the pattern because the -S was the ONLY general production variant (the letterless VF-22 was a trial production model), and that was a limited production plane. The VF-0, VF-17, and VF-19 were all limited production fighters because they were test units, special forces units, or bounced from main VF status for various reasons (respectively). As of 2059, the New UN Spacy hasn't even adopted the VF-25 yet, since it's in low rate initial production and evaluation. The VF-1's successors, the VF-4, VF-5000, VF-11, and VF-171 don't indulge in that practice. Nor, for that matter, do many secondary VFs like the VF-9, VF-14, VA-3, VA-110, VB-6, VF-27, etc. Likewise, Macross II initially rolls with this idea, but it quickly tosses it after the VF-1 platform is retired, when -S variants like the VF-4S and VF-2SS ended up the default unit for everyone. *impressed whistle* Very nice. -
Shin Kudo would put a lie to this in Macross Zero... he walks in his VF-0 in GERWALK. Ah, yeah... the GERWALKroid. Described in official material literally as a "poor man's Valkyrie", basically a VF without having a transformation mechanism. Close air support unit, kind of like a chopper, and loaded for bear with internal missiles.
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Personally, I think a LOT of my fellow fans here would agree the VF-4 has been sorely neglected. I'm no toy collector, being that I own only four Macross VF toys (the WHAM SDF-1, DX Macross Quarter, Isamu's YF-29 DX, and the old Bandai VF-2SS), but I'd personally love to see some love for the following... though YMMV as to whether or not the ones I'm listing actually deserve it: VF-5000 Star Mirage (Either the Max/Milia -B type or the Liza Hoyly -G type) VA-110 Variable Glaug (Moaramia's from Macross M3... that was a player character mecha from a canon game) VF-1SR Attack Valkyrie (main character mecha from Macross 2036) VF-2SS Valkyrie II (duh) VA-1SS Metal Siren (also a main character mecha from Macross II) VF-19ACTIVE Nothung (main character mecha from Macross R) VF-1X++ Valkyrie Plus (same as above) VF-0 Kai "Zeak" (same as above) SV-52 Gamma "Oryol" (same as above) VF-XS Valkyrie II (just for the heck of it) VA-3 Invader (baddie mecha from D7, briefly a main character mecha from VF-X2)
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Seto Kaiba replied to YF-29 Durandal's topic in Toys
Only a couple of VFs actually do that... there are just as many that don't even have a -S variant. Planetary defense doesn't stop at the Karman line, y'know... and Earth did have a fair number of potentially violent Zentradi living on its surface, and the inevitable did happen more than once. -
Not likely to happen anytime soon... to my great dismay. It's one of many neglected VFs. That's exactly how I've always read it... Kawamori's not a "sole creator" anyway, it's not like his word is gospel for Macross as a whole. He just wants to tell his story, and doesn't want to be boxed in by every little detail of work he did thirty years ago. He's doing his own eccentric thing and the rest of the staff make it fit.
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"Looks like" doesn't mean "actually has". Mind you, the VF-2SS Valkyrie II, like the VF-4S I recently corrected you on elsewhere, is optimized for operations in a particular regime. The VF-2SS is optimized for combat in space, and with virtually all of its armaments tied up in the Super Armed Pack, it wouldn't achieve much in atmospheric combat. Nothing I've yet seen in canon sources has suggested the VF-2SS can use the Super Armed Pack in atmosphere. Without it, its sole armament is a pair of beam cannons in the head. Yeah, a few folks keep bringing that up... and persistently forget (or perhaps willfully ignore) that while Kawamori says that every now and again, the Macross franchise as a whole doesn't seem to be paying him a lot of mind and is cheerfully investing a lot of effort in outlining inter-title continuity via Macross Chronicle and the like. Macross II fans, of course, can cheerfully thumb our noses at Kawamori's view because the Macross II creators DID define an official continuity, canon, etc. This seems to be less an actual point and more something people try to throw around to stifle anything resembling an actual discussion.
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Both the VF-11 and the VF-17 are all-regime fighters... they can operate equally well in space and atmosphere. The VF-2SS can't, because it was optimized for space combat and neglects atmospheric performance as a result.
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