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  1. Seto Kaiba
    Why not save you a trip? I had it all (preformatted no less) in a notepad file from when I was compiling it a ways back. Variable Fighter Master File: VF-1 Valkyrie (Vol.1) SVF-1 "Skulls" SVF-29 "Silver Wings" SVF-20 "Outlaws" "Angel Birds" Flight Demonstrator Squadron (the UN Spacy equiv. of the Blue Angels) SVF-122 "Big Aces" (a Zentradi squad) SVF-65 "Blue Knights" SVA-163 "Flying Fleas" SVF-46 "Gold Wings" SVF-51 "Yellowjackets" SVF-85 "Blue Falcons" Variable Fighter Master File: VF-1 Valkyrie (Vol.2) "Space Wing" SVF-50 "Spirits of the Sword" SVF-13 "Plungers" SVC-113 "Star Hunters" SVAW-12 "Prairie Dogs" SVF-43 "Grime Wolves" SVF-41 "Black Aces" SVF-74 "Grime Fighters" SVF-92 "Cleavers" SVF-124 "Moonshadows" SVFM-31 "Hawks" SVF-69 "Big Dippers" SVF-26 "Royal Cavaliers" SVF-56 "Griffons" SVF-77 "Seven Stars" SVF-113 "Great Bisons" SVF-144 "Cloverleaves" SVF-197 "Hammerheads" SVF-61 "War Babies" Variable Fighter Master File: VF-19 Excalibur SVF-663 "Muskets" SVF-569 "Lightnings" SVF-440 "Dullahans" SVFC-222 "Valkyries" SVF-73 "Sidewinders" SVF-166 "Tiger Waves" SVF-37 "Red Bulls" SVF-290 "Black Sabers" SVF-242 "Guardians" SVF-315 "Cheyennes" SVF-158 "Iron Riders" SVF-137 "Metal Robins" "Emerald Force" (Special Forces) "Sound Force" (Special Forces/Irregulars) SVF-523 "Sonic Riders" Variable Fighter Master File: VF-25 Messiah SVF-522 "Stampede Thunders" SVF-1202 "Fireballs" SVF-121 "Regulus" SVF-173 "Ripsnorters" "Angel Mates" Flight Demonstrator Squadron SVF-152 "Star Streaks" SVF-188 "Fire Stars" SVF-255 "Samurai Fighters" SVF-332 "Strato Falcons" SVF-502 "Electric Dragons" SVF-415 "Storm Birds" Variable Fighter Master File: VF-0 Phoenix VF-1 "Skulls" (UN Spacy) VF-8 "Vigilantes" (UN Navy) VF-11 "Bravers" (UN Spacy Technical Research and Development Force test unit) SVX-12 "Space Fighters" (UN Spacy, Orbital Weapons Test Squadron) VF-38 "Green Arrows" (UN Spacy) SVF-115 "Armors" (UN Spacy) VF-3 "Green Arrows" (UN Navy) VF-12 "Firebirds" (UN Navy) VMFAT-203 "Hawks" (UN Marines, Training Squadron) Tenjin Hidetaka: Art Works of Macross: VALKYRIES ~ Second Sortie SVF-1 "Skulls" SVF-569 "Lightnings" VMFAT-203 "Hawks" (UN Marines) SVF-124 "Moon Shooters" SVF-41 "Black Aces" VF-2 "Sonicbirds" (UN Navy) From the Squadrons book: Carrier Air Wing 1 (CVS-101 Prometheus) SVF-1 "Skulls" SVF-2 "Sonicbirds" SVF-20 "Outlaws" SVF-63 [uNNAMED] SVF-28 "Knightriders" Carrier Air Wing 9 (SDF-1 Macross) SVF-48 "Blue Hawks" SVF-38 "Green Arrows" SVF-6 [uNNAMED] SVF-22 [uNNAMED] SVF-13 [uNNAMED] SVF-44 "Gunpod Fighters" SVF-32 "Shooting Stars" Carrier Air Wing 14 (CVS-101 Prometheus) SVF-68 SVF-37 "Red Bulls" Other Units SVF-5 "Hustlers" (ARMD-1 H.J. Niven) SVF-34 "Kingfishers" (CVW-33) SVF-105 "Percivals" (ARMD-6 Constellation/CVW- SVF-54 "Bicorns" (CVW-11)* SVF-47 "Williams" (CVW-17)* VF-11 "Bravers" SVF-90 "Millennium Goblins" (ARMD-6 Constellation) VMS-38 "Night Stalkers" VMS-39 SVFR-7 "Screwhawks" SVF-50 "Spirits of the Sword" Variable Fighter's Aero Report SVF-41 "Black Aces" (UN Spacy VF-1J) SVF-145 "Easyriders" (UN Spacy, VF-1D) 9th Air Force, 723rd Tactical Fighter Wing (UN Spacy Air Force, VF-1J) VF-2 "Sonicbirds" (UN Navy, VF-1A) SVF-38 "Green Arrows" (UN Spacy, VF-1A) SVF-82 "Dirty Sluggers" (UN Spacy, VF-1J) SVF-212 "Black Knights" (UN Spacy, VF-1J) SVMAT-102 (UN Spacy Marines, VT-1) SVT-24 (UN Spacy, VT-1) SVF-184 "Iron Chiefs" (UN Spacy, VF-4A) SVMF-42 "Blue Phoenixes" (UN Spacy Marines, VF-4A) SVF-95 "White Rocks" (UN Spacy, VF-4A) 38th Air Force, 644th Tactical Fighter Wing (UN Spacy Air Force, VF-11C) SVF-72 "Black Eagles" (UN Spacy, VF-11C) SVF-110 "Mighty Wings" (UN Spacy, VF-11C) SVF-35 "Blue Steels" (UN Spacy, VF-11B) SVF-477 "Stingers" (UN Spacy, VF-11C) SVF-411 "Blue Lancers" (UN Spacy, VF-11B) SVA-145 "Cloud Dancers" (UN Spacy, VA-3) SVF-33 SVF-71 "Star Lions" (UN Spacy, VF-5000B) 28th Air Force, 313th Tactical Fighter Wing "Mosquitos" (UN Spacy Air Force, VF-5000B) SVF-124 "Moon Shooters" (UN Spacy, VF-17D) SVMF-45 "Luna Guards" (UN Spacy Marines, VF-17D)
  2. Seto Kaiba
    Okay, mystery solved... you've conflated typo'd "SVC" into "SCV". Welcome to acronym hell, population... almost everybody at some point. SCV is a depreciated/unofficial hull classification symbol used for the ARMD-class space carriers in the Sky Angels VF-1 technical manual, and fan shorthand for "space carrier" in some threads here on MW. SVC is a UN Spacy squadron classification symbol for a space-based composite squadron (the kind of group whose job it is being the adversaries in simulated combat). The SVC-8 Blue Roses are an (apparently unofficial) squadron for which the paint scheme was featured in the October 2002 issue of Model Graphix magazine on a VF-1S Strike Valkyrie. I don't believe they've appeared anywhere official, but they have showed up in a few other issues of the magazine. EDIT: I just realized the "SCV" thing is probably a typo, since you copied it out as SVC-8 in your second post. I put together a similar list of squadrons on another forum already, containing everything from the Master File books out thus far and the VF Aero Report in TIA M+. There's a lot of 'em, but only one that has just a number 8... the UN Navy squad VF-8 Vigilantes in the VF-0 book. EDIT 2: The November issue of same also has some models done in the SVC-8 Blue Roses scheme.
  3. Seto Kaiba
    Erm... what's the source you found a reference to "SCV-8 Blue Roses" in? I ask because that's not a Macross squadron designation... Macross largely uses a US Navy-inspired designation system, while the only usage of "SCV" that leaps to mind was in an unofficial tech manual (Sky Angels) as an alternate hull classification symbol for the ARMD-class space carriers. SCV/ARMD-8 was listed as the carrier Midway. EDIT: Variable Fighter Master File: VF-0 Phoenix lists the squadron VF-8 as the "Vigilantes". EDIT 2: The only google results I'm coming up with for "SCV-8" is one of the alternate license plates for the popemobile.
  4. Seto Kaiba
    Y'gotta remember, az, that the perceived situation is just as important to selling a product as the reality is. That's marketing in a nutshell. In a purely objective sense, it doesn't matter a damn whether Agrama was guilty or innocent... but the subjective views that backers and prospective backers take of the situation can have a dramatic effect on whether they contribute and how much they contribute. The behavior of the chief executive reflects upon the company he heads, after all. People are going to be a lot less interested in backing a project by a company whose owner has the reputation of being a sleazy scumbag who's got himself caught in shady dealings involving large amounts of money, regardless of whether that reputation is actually merited. So, yes, with Harmony Gold's reputation already in the toilet and Frank's badly in question, they NEED to reaffirm to the backers that the man at the top isn't tax-evading crook that everyone has had legitimate cause to think he is for the last nine years. You wouldn't, for instance, hire an accountant whose resume listed his last held position as CFO for Enron... regardless of whether or not he was involved in their book-cooking scandal. It's a game of perceptions, not facts, on that front.
  5. Seto Kaiba
    Harmony Gold apparently felt it was necessary to remind the backers (for what has to be the fifth or sixth time) that Frank Agrama was acquitted by the Italian courts on charges of tax fraud. You'd think that, at some point, they'd notice that the fact that he was acquitted matters very little in terms of the damage that it's doing to their cause. What matter is that there was enough evidence for the legendarily lazy and corrupt Italian courts to charge him at all... to say nothing of the fact that it somehow took nine years to clear his name (or bribe his way to acquittal). The public image of the company's chief executive matters to the company's reputation... and if your closest associates act like they aspire to a lifestyle somewhere between that of a Bond villian, a Captain Planet villain, and Hugh Hefner...
  6. Seto Kaiba
    Eh... I like to think of Cesar's film as a martyr. The noble sacrifice of Cesar's film, coupled with the incredibly shameful behavior of Harmony Gold in the Robotech Academy Kickstarter, has finally opened the eyes of many Robotech fans to the fact that Harmony Gold is completely out of touch with its audience and is only really interested in using nostalgia to pocket-mine its gullible fans with false promises of a comeback. With a little luck, Robotech Academy's Kickstarter will be the crash-and-burn failure that Kicktraq and SideKick say it will, and that will finally prove to them (and to Frank) that Robotech is not (and arguably never was) a viable property. The sooner they let go of the false hope that Robotech will someday continue the story and recreate the magic they felt back in the day, they sooner they can move on and find something that WILL. Ethically, the Robotech Academy Kickstarter's not much different from selling rhino horn as a bogus cure for cancer... at the end of the day, the only thing on offer is false hope. EDIT: This is actually turning out to be a slow day, even by the Kickstarter's low standards. Not even $900 yet, and it's 3pm at SDCC.
  7. Seto Kaiba
    Just goes to show that Harmony Gold's efforts to condition the fans to believe that anything Robotech is solid gold and all their ills are secretly the fault of the evil Macross purist troll Illuminati Priory of Scion Lizardman Ancient Alien Government Mind Control Chemtrail conspiracy* haven't been entirely ineffective. Usually a conspiracy allegedly headed up by yours truly, because I am beloved of the average Robotech fan. * The things they actually say about this are scarcely more sane than that, I wish I were kidding. Most of the folks on there seem to be more reasonable than that though, with a lot of them saying that they'd prefer it if HG wasn't raising so much negative press by blocking Macross, or how much they wish they could get Macross and Robotech side by side instead of in an adversarial relationship.
  8. Seto Kaiba
    Robotech Battlecry was released for all three major consoles of the period (Nintendo Gamecube, Sony Playstation 2, Microsoft XBox). It had lukewarm sales at best, and the Gamecube release was roundly condemned for having more bugs than pixels and a tendency to lock up that would shame the most diligent jailer. In retrospect, its cinematics look better than Robotech Academy does... and that's sad for all kinds of different reasons.
  9. Seto Kaiba
    Yeah, with Casper van Dien and the obnoxious fish-faced chick from Star Trek: Enterprise, no less. It's god awful, but it's still way more watchable than Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles.
  10. Seto Kaiba
    Update 23... Tony Oliver reminisces, more harping on "Do it for Carl", and a reminder that they've only got a fraction of the way to their goal. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381502542/robotech-academy/posts
  11. Seto Kaiba
    Who knows? With a little luck, and if today's presentation fails to arrest the steady downward trend of the Kickstarter, this might actually end up being the last Robotech project... or at least the last one under Yune, Yun, and McKeever. Maybe that picture of Steve being escorted out by security that was put up as an April Fool's joke a few years back will turn out to be very prophetic indeed. Fat chance of that happening, the live-action movie's so doomed that they'd be lucky if it got a direct-to-video release at a level of quality equaling Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. Their big announcement will probably be another bait-and-switch like they did in their promotion of Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles... "we're finally gonna reveal the fate of Admiral Rick Hunter, guys!", followed by a solid year of fans grumbling about how he showed up on a viewscreen for thirty seconds and promptly disappeared again. It's kinda sad that even the guys attempting to defend Robotech Academy are starting to admit that this is basically turning into a more blatant than usual attempt to rip off Macross. The general feeling I'm getting from them is one of weary resignation, and of their defense of it being more for form's sake than because they actually believe something will come of this. The fanatics would defend this to the death, naturally, but even the comments section on the Kickstarter has started to talk about how all this "Do it for Carl" stuff is in profoundly awful taste. SDCC's been open for about three hours now, and so far the Kickstarter's take for the day is only $673, from a mere 9 people, and most of that gain is existing backers upping their contribution.
  12. Seto Kaiba
    Nothing buzzworthy thus far, the only piece of news that's come out of SDCC and reached my ears so far is that Harmony Gold has chosen a printing company to print the Robotech Academy art book backer reward. I've got some friends attending SDCC, and I'd say they were not amused or impressed by how little Harmony Gold brought to whet the appetites of their audience who might attend today's panel discussion. The Kickstarter comments section is still a seething ocean of recrimination and hostility, and they've finally noticed the commentary here on MacrossWorld about the Harmony Gold apologists trying their hand at (and having a conspicuous lack of success in) keeping the vocal critics of Harmony Gold's business practices and "give us your cash and we'll make something, honest" pitch at bay. Tonight's the night... sink or swim, do or die, and all that rot. Going into it, it's not looking good. There was about a 28% increase in the dollar amount pledged yesterday, but that's 28% over the five or six day average of about $2,413.60, so $3,101. I was predicting a lot more response from SDCC than that, something more on the order of a 400% jump for a few days (~$10k+ per day) until it petered out. Since we know Harmony Gold didn't keep the Robotech Academy Kickstarter under wraps there, that indicates a strong possibility that most of the people they're hoping to pitch this to tonight are already aware of it and have already contributed... so there's a decent chance we won't see a significant spike in pledges tonight or tomorrow either. That underwhelming response from SDCC was enough to push SideKick's success prediction for Robotech Academy down to 6% and aggressively resume the downward 3% dip in Kicktraq's prediction, which now sits at 61% of total (~$308k), with a projected min/max of between $225k and $296k. I think we'll continue to see those fall in the coming days, since they were only momentarily arrested in their drop by that one guy who upped his pledge to $10,000 two days back. As often as Robotech has ended in abject and hilarious failure, I'm amazed everyone's friend Mr. Alan Smithee hasn't ended up involved at some point.
  13. Seto Kaiba
    Don't go giving them ideas... some of them are just nuts enough to try, and the ones that are are old enough to buy power tools and dumb enough to try it at home. Still, tomorrow's the do-or-die day. The SDCC attendees who bothered to stop by Harmony Gold's booth are reporting that they didn't have anything newsworthy except that they'd picked a vanity press printer to do the backer reward art book, so unless the announcement they're going to make at tomorrow's 7pm panel really sets the world on fire they're hosed.
  14. Seto Kaiba
    That's weird... it looks like someone pulled their money out. It went down by $30 over the last hour... I wonder if they're starting to try to kick the critics out. You could almost understand them doing it, since today's "big reveal" at SDCC was (reportedly) that they went and found some vanity press company to print the Robotech Academy artbook backer reward. Not a lot of ways to polish that turd. Kicktraq's prediction actually went up 1% thanks to that guy who chipped in a few grand to get to the $10k tier yesterday, though it's still sitting at a mere 64% and looks like it'll start trending back down unless there's a surge day tomorrow. SideKick's hit an all-time low for its prediction of this getting funded, a whopping 7% chance of success.
  15. Seto Kaiba
    They'll probably run into more problems than just Robotech's lack of name recognition and terrible reputation... everything in the story concept for Robotech Academy requires prior knowledge of not just Robotech's original series, but also of Robotech II: the Sentinels, an aborted project whose sole pseudocanon depiction has been out of print for decades. It's no ambassador, and the only thing it'll do for its audience is leave them more lost than... well... Lost.
  16. Seto Kaiba
    Well, yeah... but according to McKeever, The Powers That Be at Harmony Gold don't give a damn about any part of the site that doesn't directly bring in a profit. Essentially, the store is all they care about and the rest is a massive blind spot. THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS! The funny part is, the other half of the Robotech.com Two Stooges routine (Maverick_LSC) once expressed to me that that was actually his motivation for deleting posts and banning people for speaking critically of the Shadow Chronicles or asking questions about Harmony Gold's (in)ability to use Macross in future works. The exact moon logic he gave was that those touchy topics had the potential to directly hurt Robotech if prospective fans or someone from Warner Bros were to see it. Put simply, his stance on those matters was that anything other than slavish, unquestioning praise for Robotech was hurting the franchise. That attitude - that questioning even the most obvious lies told by Harmony Gold - was an unforgivable sin did so much damage... and the Kickstarter comments REALLY show it. There are a lot of people snapping back at the Harmony Gold volunteer thought police now, and a fair amount of snide commentary about their unthinking devotion. There are a lot of people who would almost certainly be pledging who are not, or who would pledge more than they have, had Harmony Gold not done that. Well, when you put it like that it sounds completely reasonable... I don't think they can preemptively ban people from the panel... you have to actually do something at the convention to earn your forcible ejection, like pie Tommy Yune in front of an audience. I'm sure there will be some backers who show up and attempt to ask the hard questions. I'm equally sure that Harmony Gold will have some memorized form answer rebuttals that rely on obfuscating weasel words and unclear language to counter them. That is, after all, how they've been dodging the Macross rights thing every time it comes up.
  17. Seto Kaiba
    Funnily enough, several folks on the Kickstarter called him on it, saying pretty much exactly that... "If you had the distribution rights to the rest of Macross, you wouldn't be f'ing around with this Kickstarter nonsense". It's kind of a pathetic knee-jerk effort to silence the increasingly vocal protests against Harmony Gold forcing no-export-for-you status on Macross when they can't do anything useful with Robotech. I guess tomorrow we'll see what the wages of sin are. Not the first time someone in this thread has drawn a parallel to North Korean propaganda... it seems like, just as in North Korea, the ones writing and disseminating the propaganda have an unrealistically low opinion of everyone else's intelligence. Unlike the North Koreans, it seems Harmony Gold isn't clear on how this "internet" thing they keep hearing about lets just about any idiot off the street find enough information to poke their claims full of holes.
  18. Seto Kaiba
    They're pretty committed to the lie too... McKeever's still trying to sell the people protesting that Harmony Gold needs to get out of the way of Macross licensing on the old lie that they own the distribution rights to ALL of Macross's sequels and derivatives. That alone reeks of a certain kind of desperation.
  19. Seto Kaiba
    Update it for who? They've banned almost everyone who ever had an account on there, and most of the people who didn't get the banhammer got sick of their sh*t and left of their own accord. (It's so bad there that even Harmony Gold's high propagandist Kevin McKeever had to admit the only part of the site the higher-ups care about is the store, the rest is not worth spending money on, as their view reportedly goes.) Absolutely. We made, ironically enough, the exact same assumption about Robotech fans that Harmony Gold did... that they're no better than magpies with wallets, and live with a compulsion to collect anything with the word "Robotech" on it. Many of 'em bucked that particular stereotype when Robotech Academy was announced, though even the people on the Kickstarter have pointed some fingers at the "200 fans who'll buy anything". Some of them have lived down to our expectations, however. To me, there's nothing sad about Harmony Gold's persistent failure to accept reality. It was sad the first time they got carried away with their enthusiasm and misguided belief that they were clever and ran full-tilt into the brick wall of their own incompetence. Four or five further encounters with the exact same brick wall at top speed have robbed the situation of anything that might evoke a pity response. Their incompetence and refusal to believe that the anime industry doesn't work the same way it did back in 1985 have reduced their antics to the level of Wile E. Coyote... we watch them execute their absurd little plans knowing for a certainty that no matter what they do they'll never succeed. The only thing in question is how badly they're going to be hurt when it's all over. If insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, Harmony Gold is barking mad. Even if this gets made, it's guaranteed to end the same way as Shadow Chronicles. Why? Robotech Academy is supposed to be able to bring in a new generation of fans if it goes to air, but Robotech Academy is no ambassador. Every faction, plot point, and character has SOME contextually-vital connection to the original series... the original series that 99.9% of their target audience is not going to have any knowledge of. It's set as a side story to a series that was never animated, full of characters whose defining character trait is a tangential relationship to an absentee character or someone who was never characterized to begin with, and it relies on the audience having foreknowledge of the least popular saga of Robotech to know about or care who the antagonists in the series even are or why they think they can find what they're looking for on Earth. This isn't like Frontier, where having seen a lot of what came before was merely a bonus... for this mess, you need to have seen Robotech's original series AND seen or read some version of Robotech II: the Sentinels to have any idea who these people are or why you should care. This is the exact same problem they ran into with Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles, where the "sibling nobody ever mentioned" main character was lambasted as an author-insert fantasy persona of Tommy Yune, and a cast full of expies did nothing at all to endear themselves to the audience.
  20. Seto Kaiba
    Well, Harmony Gold's sunk a lot of time and energy over the last fourteen years into trying to condition Robotech fans to blindly and obediently buy anything and everything they arbitrarily slap the word "Robotech" on. They spent a bunch of time telling an assortment of hilariously transparent lies about Macross and the other original shows, and quietly endorsed the jackassery that their volunteer moderators and the stooges of those moderators were perpetrating by podcast. They worked damn hard to put the Robotech fans in an adversarial relationship with anime hobbyists in general and Macross fans in particular to maintain that captive audience of theirs. From the last mass-banning of their critics after Shadow Chronicles came out to the start of the Robotech Academy Kickstarter, things were looking like they'd actually succeeded. It seemed like Robotech fans were so desperate for something, ANYTHING with the Robotech name on it, that they'd buy garbage like Robotech: Love Live Alive or the crossover with Voltron and praise it like it was something with actual artistic integrity. That's why the large-scale mutinous muttering and widespread acrimony over the Robotech Academy Kickstarter came as such a profound shock. We're so used to Robotech fans desperately grasping at straws to find something praiseworthy about whatever laughably feeble mess Harmony Gold kicked out the door last that having them suddenly announce "No, this is rubbish and we're not going to support it or even pretend otherwise" was about the last thing anyone would've expected... never mind how the KS's comments section has devolved into a borderline flame war over the Macross embargo issue.
  21. Seto Kaiba
    I'm straight-up nauseated by the way Harmony Gold is honestly hoping they'll be able to surf Carl's coffin to success. I didn't have much use for the man when he was alive, and I'm not a big believer in a due to the dead, but the way they're expecting the fans to empty their bank accounts "for Carl" is crossing the line twice. The old saying goes that when one finds oneself in a hole, the first thing one should do is to stop digging. Harmony Gold seems to be of the opinion that, upon finding themselves in a VERY deep hole, digging to China is easier than putting the shovel down and climbing out.
  22. Seto Kaiba
    Hey, some nutter tossed in ten grand for the privilege of making "pew pew" laser noises into a microphone that Harmony Gold may or may not use... that alone is more backing than they've had in the last five days or so.
  23. Seto Kaiba
    Because it's the Yamato from Space Battleship Yamato that's had the bow replaced with the main gun of the Macross from DYRL?. Real original, Creavision... I know I mocked the first ship design as blatant fanwankery, but they didn't have to live down to my expectations.
  24. Seto Kaiba
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381502542/robotech-academy/posts/923789 I think the comments section might be right when they suggested this is a desperation update.
  25. Seto Kaiba
    Problem is, that "proposal" is basically the exact same completely unworkable idea that every Robotech fan has at some point... it's "what if we just remade the original series to be more like Macross?", though they usually don't put it in those exact terms. In reality, it's no more complete and even less workable than Robotech Academy. Academy may be a mess, but at least it's a technically non-infringing mess.
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