Seto Kaiba
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As an addendum to Mr March's answer, Variable Fighter Master File: VF-0 Phoenix has a similar cutaway diagram... but it's facing the wrong way to get a good look at the AN/AWG-12 radar.
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Yes, we know. The point was that there is no demonstrable link between the Zentradi or Meltrandi cybernetics seen/mentioned in the Macross: Do You Remember Love? movie and either human implant technology or the BDI system. The Queadluun-Rhea is, after all, a Queadluun-Rau redesigned by human engineers and enhanced with human overtechnology. That would have made it very difficult for the DYRLverse versions of Max and Milia to start a family... which they did. Eh... I think we'll be seeing it in the real world sooner rather than later. (Well, we already have on a trial basis... but I mean on a large scale.) There's just too much potential application to use cybernetics for prosthetic applications and organ replacements to treat injuries and illnesses that would otherwise be impossible to treat. As far as military applications go, it'll be a long time before we start seeing cybernetics for combat troops... but Macross has that whole "overtechnology" thing to lean on. The tech the Protoculture designed for the Zentradi (and Meltrandi) was IMPOSSIBLY robust by modern standards. Right now, we can't even build a car that'll run for six months without preventative maintenance to sustain performance... the Protoculture built computers and starships that were still working fine after hundreds of thousands of years without maintenance. (Also, they had a rather cavalier attitude towards the whole "Casualties" thing...)
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That's heat from the reaction itself though, not from the coolant loops keeping the core at a safe temperature or the other systems in line.
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I fear I may become a perpetual source of aggrivation... as I'm not about to stop citing sources in favor of guessing wildly. It's just not my style. Eh... actually, there's a straightforward explanation for that difference in length. The VF-171EX's nose section changed shape (the nose tips down slightly) to make room for the improved visibility of the "bubble" canopy. The reduction in length is due to that minor change in angle, the nose is otherwise pretty much the same dimensions. It's hard to tell in the animation, but looking at the art or physical models of the craft makes it very easy to spot. Officially, the redesign of the arms to remove the bi-directional beam cannons was not an end in and of itself... it was a necessity of the simplified transformation. As noted previously, the path would've been considerably smoother starting from the VF-17 than the VF-11 in light of the fact that the VF-17's design was already stressed for an AVF-tier engine and was renowned for its exceptional durability and defensive ability. In the redesign process, they wouldn't have to reevaluate every aspect of the design to see if it would stand up under considerably greater stresses than it was originally designed for. At the time the VF-11 Thunderbolt was developed, thermonuclear reaction burst turbines were still a ways off... so the only way to achieve a similar thrust rating to an AVF would be to build an excessively large and consequentially fuel-intensive engine, scaling up output by scaling up input. You're missing a crucial difference here... possibly the most obvious crucial difference of all. SIZE. The VF-11 and VF-25 may have roughly similar masses due to improvements in materials and design, but the VF-25 is SUBSTANTIALLY larger. Not only does it have more efficient and powerful engines, it also has a good deal more internal space in which to store fuel. The same can be said for every other AVF which has shown up thus far. (Size is a noted asset for the nearest neighbor to AVF territory before the VF-17, and the VFs that've been upgraded to AVF levels... the VF-14 is even bigger than a VF-17, and the VF-0 and SV-51 are some of the biggest VFs ever built.) VERY limited... the MAXL is a build-to-order aircraft, supposedly only a dozen or so made and no two truly alike. 's probably a question of cost and availabilities... with the Special Forces already using the VF-17 and the VF-19 tentatively penciled in as a successor craft, why bother upgrading the VF-11's to MAXL status? For most pilots, the regular variant is more than sufficient and for those who need more powerful craft, just give them the latest toys that are scheduled for mass production. There are several known typographical errors in Macross the Ride. The FF-3600J number is one. The printed stats block for the SV-52 also asserts that the VF-17 uses the FF-2010X, rather than 2100X.
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You can clearly see buildings and the Macross in the background... that would tend to indicate the Ghosts are launching from South Ataria island. They literally ascend right past the Macross's bridge in that scene. The only official org. chart ever published for VF squadrons suggests 15 is the most likely answer. Minoru Inaba.
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Only via implant technology... and, as far as we've seen, only on the VF-27.
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Ach, that's a shame. We've lost a man whose work brought joy to millions.
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The kana for "Earth" is アース. The kana for "Alus" in Macross II is アルス. So, no... the spellings are similar, but アルス is not an alternate kana spelling of "Earth". The Macross II manga has a translation that is, at its best, rather spotty and of indifferent quality. (It also really doesn't have any bearing on the story of the animated series.) -
... pretty much impossible to tell from a thumbnail the size of a postage stamp. EDIT: Looks vaguely like a Beechcraft Starship... though that seems unlikely, since that design didn't go into production until 1983.
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No.
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Well, it's not the exact same engine... the VF-17 used the FF-2100X, while the VF-171 uses the FF-2110A. Still, it wouldn't be a tall order to either tune up the new engines or drop in a different, more powerful engine to make a command spec. model or something along those lines. WRT the capacity of that launcher... I would assume that it's the same as the VF-17's, but nothing is actually said about the number of missiles carried inside of either launcher system, so that's a great big question mark. As far as why the forearm beam guns were axed, Macross Chronicle's VF-171 Nightmare Plus mechanic sheet points to it being the result of the changes in the transformation system... specifically, the elimination of the "high speed GERWALK" configuration the VF-17 was so fond of using.
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Nothing of significance, no. They are... and the answer is "if you have a planet literally covered in wrecked ships that are structurally sound but not salvageable, why not use them for building materials?". The UN Spacy of Macross II was eyebrow deep in secondhand Zentradi warships, and more were being captured every time a rogue Zentradi fleet blundered into human-controlled space (once every 10 years or so...). The Macross Cannon-class gunships are another example of using captured Zentradi warships to build something new... each of them was built around four captured, retrofitted Nupetiet Vergnitzs-class fleet command battleships. No, they can't... they're just convenient structural building material. The emigrant fleets of the Macross II universe use the Macross-class SDFs and Megaroad-class ships well into the 2050's. Unless I missed something in Variable Fighter Master File, we don't know how many VF-19's were made... and from other, official materials like Macross Chronicle we just know that the VF-19 was deemed unsuitable for extensive deployment. The reasons given for the VF-19 being passed over for widespread adoption are: The high performance of the VF-19 and VF-22, both in engine output and maneuverability, exceeded the tolerances of a human body to such an extent that pilots frequently lost control of the aircraft during training. Various attempts to fix the problem were made (e.g. the VF-19F/S's control refinements), but no viable permanent solution was found. The VF-19 and VF-22 are extremely expensive. Isamu's little stunt with the YF-19 proved that the VF-19 and VF-22 were capable of independently penetrating Earth's defensive sphere, so the UN Forces officials were unwilling/reluctant to deploy it to emigrant fleets as-is (which, later, resulted in "Monkey Model" VF-19's like the VF-19P and VF-19EF. Unmanned aircraft demonstrated capabilities exceeding that of the VF-19 and VF-22, though they had their own issues and did not become the new main fighter either. (Based on Chronicle's descriptions, it sounds like they ended up being one of two main fighters alongside the VF-171.) Those dates are a bit misleading... you're citing dates of first flight or introduction, not actual adoption of the main fighter role. The VF-1 Valkyrie was the main VF from 2008-2020, the VF-4 from 2020 to "after 2030" (and shared it with the VF-5000 for part of the period), the VF-11 from some point after 2030 to ~2050 (and technically shared it with the VF-14), and the VF-171 from ~2050 to the "present day" (2060). (Mind you, having a new fighter become next main fighter doesn't mean the existing ones just disappeared... they were still using VF-1's alongside VF-4's and VF-5000's, etc. etc.) Just because the VF-19 didn't become main VF of the (New) UN Forces doesn't mean it wasn't used in significant numbers... the Macross Galaxy fleet is known to have equipped their defense forces with a locally-produced version of the VF-19C, the Macross Frontier fleet had their own local variant that they built over 150 of (the VF-19EF), and so on. Yes. The Mistral is sitting on the airstrip in episode 1. The MiM-31 Karyobin, a completely different aircraft that link you found was for, is NOT present in that episode.
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Nope... the VF-171 design changed a LOT of stuff from the original VF-17 design it was based on. The redesigned (simplified) transformation resulted in the bi-directional medium-bore beam guns in the forearms being cut from the design entirely. Also, the internal micro-missile launchers in the wing root had their number of exit ports reduced from 2 to 1, those laser cannons on the head and alongside the cockpit were replaced by beam cannons, it got a new gun pod, and wings gained six new pylons for externally-carried ordinance. The engines weren't unchanged either... they got a less powerful version of the VF-17's engine with 17% (93.5kN) less output than the VF-17D and gained 300kg of mass. On the plus side, it did gain improvements in avionics, active stealth, aerodynamics, etc. Nah, the Mistral is a completely different aircraft... it's just that link you found to Nanashi's defunct website would've taken you to the wrong aircraft. We have info on the MiM-31, which isn't at that airshow, we don't have anything for the Mistral because it's just part of the scenery. Pretty much, yeah... there's a caricature of Kawamori in the background of one of those crowd shots tho.
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That link probably wouldn't have taken you to the right plane anyway... the MiM-31 was the Anti-UN Alliance fighter from Claudia's flashback episode in the original series. http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/karyovin.htm Apart from one or two pieces of art, there isn't really any coverage of the Mistral.
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Apart from the Mistral in the foreground, there is no ID on those planes... just background filler, I'd guess.
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If I had to hazard a guess based on the "virtues" of the design mentioned in Macross Chronicle, it would be that it's a "heavy" VF because of the combination of the design's excellent defensive strength and payload capabilities.
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Source for that? I don't recall anything about the BDI system being Zentradi overtechnology... the only explicitly Zentradi system that's mentioned with the YF-21/VF-22 is the inertia vector control system, based on the one used in the Queadluun-Rau. I'm not finding anything that connects the YF-21's BDI to the DYRL?-only Meltrandi cybernetics. EDIT: I think you might be conflating the BDI and IVCS... the BDI wasn't used on the YF-24, but the ISC used on the YF-24 and its derivative designs is based on the IVCS used on the Q-Rau and YF-21/VF-22. Frontier's prohibition of implants is rare in 2059. Per Kawamori's interview in Otona Anime #9, that's a recent change.
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Remember, the material in the DYRL?-related entries may not necessarily be true for the stories of the main/ongoing Macross universe... as DYRL? itself is a movie within that Macross universe.
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Two in total, IIRC.
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It's not a factory satellite, it's just the "Macross Cannon base"... one of the orbital staging areas for the Sol system's six Macross Cannon-class gunships.
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None that I'm aware of, no.
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"Migg Pitt" is the name it's given.
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Well, the waste heat has to go somewhere... and in most cases the wing is the largest contiguous surface on a Valkyrie, and thus an ideal radiator surface for that waste heat when not in combat. (As noted on the VF-25.) Er... just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean it's an inconsistency, my friend. As noted in Macross Chronicle1, the VF-171 Nightmare Plus used by the Macross Frontier fleet were (effectively) detuned models operating at well below the airframe's design limit in the name of reducing costs and improving handling. It was designed with the structural strength to support a much more powerful engine, and is noted as being both more durable and having comprehensive performance superior to that of the VF-17. The (still comparatively detuned) FF-2550F engines the VF-171EX was fitted with are noted2 as having loaded the airframe right to the limits of its structural strength. By contrast, the VF-11 was designed in a much earlier era... when the kind of thrust even the detuned FF-2110A produces could only be achieved by a "brute force" approach of simply building bigger, thirstier engines. I'm certain the airframe was, like others, designed with leeway for reasonable improvements in engine technology like those seen on the VF-1 or VF-4... but they probably didn't anticipate that, a decade or so after finalizing the design, there'd be a quantum leap in engine technology that'd just about double the potential output of a thermonuclear reaction turbine. In short, the VF-171 didn't need reinforcement to adopt the more powerful engines because the airframe was designed to take a more powerful engine than it ended up using... while the VF-11 needed reinforcement because it was designed for the outputs of engines available when it was built, and used those engines to the max. As a point of order, there are already sensors all over the airframe on regular VF's... even moreso on AVFs. Yep... that's what we've been saying. On a thermonuclear reaction turbine engine, the production of thrust is a function of energy losses at the generator stage. Plasma, heat, and power are bled off the reactor to heat intake air and/or run the MHD plasma ion engine, which means less power is available for other systems. With FAST packs, it's also possible they could be utilizing the thermonuclear reaction turbines at a lower level and relying more on rocket boosters to provide more generator support for things like the capacitor banks in the APS-25 Armored Pack... though newer craft using Stage II reaction turbine engines have a greater energy surplus at maximum thrust than previous generations, which is responsible for their ability to use light energy conversion armor in fighter mode (and probably helps fill the demand for power from capacitor banks in FAST packs). So... using a detuned engine to preserve AVF technical functionality at lower levels of performance. That sounds very familiar. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Macross Chronicle Macross Frontier mechanic sheet NUNS 02A "VF-171 Nightmare Plus" 2. Macross Chronicle Macross Frontier mechanic sheet NUNS 03A "VF-171EX Nightmare Plus EX"
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All told, the available descriptions of the Macross universe's active stealth technology I've found point to it being an ECM-based active stealth system which uses destructive interference to mask the fighter's presence by zeroing the returning radar wave. Variable Fighter Master File: VF-1 Valkyrie's second volume has some brief mentions of the UN Forces having to make post-war adjustments to the VF-1 active stealth system to improve its effectiveness against Zentradi radar systems, because they use different frequencies, modulations, and search patterns from what human-built radars do.
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Actually, that has a relatively straightforward explanation. Because development was being pursued in the immediate aftermath of the first space war, the VF-X-4 prototypes were assembled using large (but diminishing) amounts of existing VF-1 hardware. The version (a model of which is) seen in the series was 35% VF-1 Valkyrie parts, and by the start of trial production, they'd whittled the percentage of shared parts to 25% on the VF-4A-0.
